Re: [Standards] [xmpp] 3920bis: reliability

2009-09-10 Thread Fabio Forno
2009/9/10 Fabio Forno :

>> Although the core XMPP technology defined in this specification does not
>> contain features to overcome this lack of reliability, XMPP extensions exist
>> to rectify this problem (for example [XEP-0198]).
>
> I like this formulation

I don't know why but the only reply-to in your message to the ML is
not to the ML itself, but to your private address

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Re: [Standards] [xmpp] 3920bis: reliability

2009-09-10 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
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On 9/10/09 1:23 PM, Florian Zeitz wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> I propose adding the following informational (and self-explanatory)
>> paragraph to the section on TCP Binding in 3920bis...
> 
>> 4.6.  Reliability
> 
>>The use of long-lived TCP connections in XMPP implies that the
>>sending of XML stanzas over XML streams can be unreliable, since the
>>parties to a long-lived TCP connection might not discover a
>>connectivity disruption in a timely manner.  At the XMPP application
>>layer, long connectivity disruptions can result in undelivered
>>stanzas.  Although the core XMPP technology defined in this
>>specification does not contain features to overcome this lack of
>>reliability, an XMPP extension for doing so is defined in [XEP-0198].
> 
> 
> 
> This sounds like a good idea to me.
> I was wondering whether it might be a good idea to mention XEP-0184 too
> though.
> Possibly in a different context, maybe even in 3921bis.
> It seems much more useful for the normal Instant Messaging case as long
> as XEP-0198 is not widely deployed IMHO. OTOH not mentioning 184 might
> be a way to increase 198 deployment...

I think that XEP-0198 applies more at the core streaming level (3920bis)
and XEP-0184 applies more at the IM level (3921bis).

Peter

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