Re: [Standards] Enterprise Users Groups

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Eacott

Isnt this just an xmpp workgroups app?

Fasihullah Askiri wrote:

Hi All,

We are trying to use XMPP in our application where there will be a user 
group like Finance or HR to which the application would want to add 
users. We are planning to write a custom XMPP component which would 
check for presence of the users in the group and should be able to 
direct queries from some other users to a member of this group. This 
application would eventually inter-op with an enterprise XMPP server so 
we would like to reduce the dependency on XMPP server configuration to a 
minimal. Also, ideally we would like that the users of the group are 
auto-subscribed and would not require the user to manually send a 
presence subscribed packet.


I am not sure if pubsub or group is what we need, please advice.

Best Regards
+Fasih


Re: [Standards] Enterprise Users Groups

2010-02-24 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 2/24/10 12:39 AM, Fasihullah Askiri wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 We are trying to use XMPP in our application where there will be a user
 group like Finance or HR to which the application would want to add
 users. We are planning to write a custom XMPP component which would
 check for presence of the users in the group and should be able to
 direct queries from some other users to a member of this group. This
 application would eventually inter-op with an enterprise XMPP server so
 we would like to reduce the dependency on XMPP server configuration to a
 minimal. Also, ideally we would like that the users of the group are
 auto-subscribed and would not require the user to manually send a
 presence subscribed packet.

Some XMPP server implementations support this kind of feature (often
called shared groups or communities), but we don't have a standard
method for it. Talk with your server vendor for details.

Peter

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Re: [Standards] Enterprise Users Groups

2010-02-24 Thread Jason Eacott

Ignite has an implementation, and its supported with smack,
I'm not sure what other implementations exist.

Fasihullah Askiri wrote:

Great!!
What is the status of this. Is it a widely supported extension? If not, 
can I still use this by writing an external component maybe.


On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Jason Eacott ja...@hardlight.com.au 
mailto:ja...@hardlight.com.au wrote:


Isnt this just an xmpp workgroups app?


Fasihullah Askiri wrote:

Hi All,

We are trying to use XMPP in our application where there will be
a user group like Finance or HR to which the application would
want to add users. We are planning to write a custom XMPP
component which would check for presence of the users in the
group and should be able to direct queries from some other users
to a member of this group. This application would eventually
inter-op with an enterprise XMPP server so we would like to
reduce the dependency on XMPP server configuration to a minimal.
Also, ideally we would like that the users of the group are
auto-subscribed and would not require the user to manually send
a presence subscribed packet.

I am not sure if pubsub or group is what we need, please advice.

Best Regards
+Fasih




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of the righteous to perish (11:115)


[Standards] Enterprise Users Groups

2010-02-23 Thread Fasihullah Askiri
Hi All,

We are trying to use XMPP in our application where there will be a user
group like Finance or HR to which the application would want to add users.
We are planning to write a custom XMPP component which would check for
presence of the users in the group and should be able to direct queries from
some other users to a member of this group. This application would
eventually inter-op with an enterprise XMPP server so we would like to
reduce the dependency on XMPP server configuration to a minimal. Also,
ideally we would like that the users of the group are auto-subscribed and
would not require the user to manually send a presence subscribed packet.

I am not sure if pubsub or group is what we need, please advice.

Best Regards
+Fasih