Re: [Standards] SMS/Email Forwarding of Messages

2014-02-17 Thread Steffen Larsen
Yes exactly. Support of data forms etc. would be nice for setup and query.

/Steffen

On 17 Feb 2014, at 19:10, Simon Tennant  wrote:

> IMHO this is really something that should be in the push spec.
> configure with numbers/email addresses
> push events to "pusher component"
> Services like "knowing if delivery has gone through could be reflected in the 
>  to .
> 
> This is how we solved it on the Buddycloud "pusher" 
> https://github.com/buddycloud/buddycloud-pusher#add-or-configure-push-records
> 
> @Lance - do you need any help writing the XEP once you are finished with 
> Websockets and London?
> ᐧ
> 
> 
> On 17 February 2014 15:02, Spencer MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> Hi Steffen,
> 
> I was at the summit and also thought that it could be added to the push 
> notification XEP, but for SMS/Email you might want to:
> 
> - Know what telephone number or email address the message was forwarded on to.
> - Know if the message has been sent/received/opened
> - Opt in/Out of paying for forwarding (in the case of SMS).
> 
> So although it can be just another end point, I think you still need 
> additional logic when compared to push notifications.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Spencer
> 
> On 17 Feb 2014, at 13:51, Steffen Larsen  wrote:
> 
> > I think you might look at the stuff we were discussing at the XMPP summit, 
> > namely push notifications.
> > Lance stout have begun doing a XEP for this: 
> > http://legastero.github.io/customxeps/extensions/push.html
> >
> > It can prob. be used for SMS and email as well. Just another endpoint. :-)
> >
> > /Steffen
> >
> >
> > On 17 Feb 2014, at 14:47, Spencer MacDonald 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Is there any XEP that covers a message getting forwarded using another 
> >> transport e.g. SMS, Email?
> >>
> >> If not would there be any interest in making a standard one?
> >>
> >> My personal use case is if the recipient is offline, the message can be 
> >> forward to their phone as an SMS.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Spencer
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Simon Tennant | buddycloud.com | +49 17 8545 0880 | office hours: goo.gl/tQgxP



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Re: [Standards] SMS/Email Forwarding of Messages

2014-02-17 Thread Simon Tennant
IMHO this is really something that should be in the push spec.

   - configure with numbers/email addresses
   - push events to "pusher component"

Services like "knowing if delivery has gone through could be reflected in
the  to .

This is how we solved it on the Buddycloud "pusher"
https://github.com/buddycloud/buddycloud-pusher#add-or-configure-push-records

@Lance - do you need any help writing the XEP once you are finished with
Websockets and London?
ᐧ


On 17 February 2014 15:02, Spencer MacDonald <
spencer.macdonald.ot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Steffen,
>
> I was at the summit and also thought that it could be added to the push
> notification XEP, but for SMS/Email you might want to:
>
> - Know what telephone number or email address the message was forwarded on
> to.
> - Know if the message has been sent/received/opened
> - Opt in/Out of paying for forwarding (in the case of SMS).
>
> So although it can be just another end point, I think you still need
> additional logic when compared to push notifications.
>
> Regards
>
> Spencer
>
> On 17 Feb 2014, at 13:51, Steffen Larsen  wrote:
>
> > I think you might look at the stuff we were discussing at the XMPP
> summit, namely push notifications.
> > Lance stout have begun doing a XEP for this:
> http://legastero.github.io/customxeps/extensions/push.html
> >
> > It can prob. be used for SMS and email as well. Just another endpoint.
> :-)
> >
> > /Steffen
> >
> >
> > On 17 Feb 2014, at 14:47, Spencer MacDonald <
> spencer.macdonald.ot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Is there any XEP that covers a message getting forwarded using another
> transport e.g. SMS, Email?
> >>
> >> If not would there be any interest in making a standard one?
> >>
> >> My personal use case is if the recipient is offline, the message can be
> forward to their phone as an SMS.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Spencer
> >
>
>


-- 
Simon Tennant | buddycloud.com | +49 17 8545 0880 | office hours:
goo.gl/tQgxP


Re: [Standards] SMS/Email Forwarding of Messages

2014-02-17 Thread Spencer MacDonald
Hi Steffen,

I was at the summit and also thought that it could be added to the push 
notification XEP, but for SMS/Email you might want to:

- Know what telephone number or email address the message was forwarded on to.
- Know if the message has been sent/received/opened
- Opt in/Out of paying for forwarding (in the case of SMS).

So although it can be just another end point, I think you still need additional 
logic when compared to push notifications.

Regards

Spencer

On 17 Feb 2014, at 13:51, Steffen Larsen  wrote:

> I think you might look at the stuff we were discussing at the XMPP summit, 
> namely push notifications.
> Lance stout have begun doing a XEP for this: 
> http://legastero.github.io/customxeps/extensions/push.html
> 
> It can prob. be used for SMS and email as well. Just another endpoint. :-)
> 
> /Steffen
> 
> 
> On 17 Feb 2014, at 14:47, Spencer MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Is there any XEP that covers a message getting forwarded using another 
>> transport e.g. SMS, Email?
>> 
>> If not would there be any interest in making a standard one?
>> 
>> My personal use case is if the recipient is offline, the message can be 
>> forward to their phone as an SMS.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Spencer
> 



Re: [Standards] SMS/Email Forwarding of Messages

2014-02-17 Thread Daniele Ricci
Hello Spencer,
what about "extending" [1] XEP-0297 [2] to include something to
enable/disable automatic forwarding?

[1] by "extending" I mean either improving that one or writing another
one which uses XEP-0297
[2] http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0297.html

On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Spencer MacDonald
 wrote:
> Is there any XEP that covers a message getting forwarded using another 
> transport e.g. SMS, Email?
>
> If not would there be any interest in making a standard one?
>
> My personal use case is if the recipient is offline, the message can be 
> forward to their phone as an SMS.
>
> Regards
>
> Spencer



-- 
Daniele


Re: [Standards] SMS/Email Forwarding of Messages

2014-02-17 Thread Steffen Larsen
I think you might look at the stuff we were discussing at the XMPP summit, 
namely push notifications.
Lance stout have begun doing a XEP for this: 
http://legastero.github.io/customxeps/extensions/push.html

It can prob. be used for SMS and email as well. Just another endpoint. :-)

/Steffen


On 17 Feb 2014, at 14:47, Spencer MacDonald  
wrote:

> Is there any XEP that covers a message getting forwarded using another 
> transport e.g. SMS, Email?
> 
> If not would there be any interest in making a standard one?
> 
> My personal use case is if the recipient is offline, the message can be 
> forward to their phone as an SMS.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Spencer



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[Standards] SMS/Email Forwarding of Messages

2014-02-17 Thread Spencer MacDonald
Is there any XEP that covers a message getting forwarded using another 
transport e.g. SMS, Email?

If not would there be any interest in making a standard one?

My personal use case is if the recipient is offline, the message can be forward 
to their phone as an SMS.

Regards

Spencer