Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-23 Thread Yusuke DOI

+1 from Japan as well :-)

Yusuke

(2013-09-21 07:22), Joachim Lindborg wrote:

+1 from sweden as well.


2013/9/20 Alexey Melnikov alexey.melni...@isode.com 
mailto:alexey.melni...@isode.com

On 20/09/2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your Jabber ID
in your email messages:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/__draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.__txt 
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt

For various reasons we never got this header registered with IANA, but
on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add it to the
provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.

Can you do an Independent submission to RFC Editor? You already have a 
draft...

Is there still interest in registering this header?

Yes yes yes :-).




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Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-22 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On 20 Sep 2013, at 16:12, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote:

 On 9/20/13 8:25 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
 On 20/09/2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 
 Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your
 Jabber ID in your email messages:
 
 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt
 
 For various reasons we never got this header registered with
 IANA, but on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add
 it to the provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.
 Can you do an Independent submission to RFC Editor? You already
 have a draft...
 
 Now that I think about it, I might resurrect this as an I-D and get it
 published as an RFC. I last pursued this back in 2007 when everyone
 (well, some influential people at the IETF) thought that the world
 would switch to using 'im:' and 'pres:' URIs. That hasn't exactly
 happened. :-)

Indeed.
And I remember some people who didn't like the idea.



Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-20 Thread Dave Cridland

Mike Taylor wrote:

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On 09/19/2013 10:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your Jabber
 ID in your email messages:

 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt

 For various reasons we never got this header registered with IANA,
 but on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add it to
 the provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.

 Is there still interest in registering this header?

I'm +1 for this because it will make sense when we start using our JID
as an identity marker.


Oh, I'd forgotten this was only an I-D, I'd thought it was a proper spec.

So yes, +1 for sorting this. I might even implement it.

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Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-20 Thread Matthew Wild
On 20 September 2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote:
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 Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your Jabber ID
 in your email messages:

 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt

 For various reasons we never got this header registered with IANA, but
 on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add it to the
 provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.

 Is there still interest in registering this header?

A very big +1.

Regards,
Matthew

Sent without blotting paper


Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-20 Thread Alexey Melnikov

On 20/09/2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:


Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your Jabber ID
in your email messages:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt

For various reasons we never got this header registered with IANA, but
on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add it to the
provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.
Can you do an Independent submission to RFC Editor? You already have a 
draft...

Is there still interest in registering this header?

Yes yes yes :-).



Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-20 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
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On 9/20/13 8:25 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
 On 20/09/2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 
 Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your
 Jabber ID in your email messages:
 
 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt
 
 For various reasons we never got this header registered with
 IANA, but on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add
 it to the provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.
 Can you do an Independent submission to RFC Editor? You already
 have a draft...

Now that I think about it, I might resurrect this as an I-D and get it
published as an RFC. I last pursued this back in 2007 when everyone
(well, some influential people at the IETF) thought that the world
would switch to using 'im:' and 'pres:' URIs. That hasn't exactly
happened. :-)

Peter

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Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-20 Thread Simon Tennant
Not sure what this JabberID thing is

Has anyone thought of putting your XMPP-ID into an email header?

Now that would be awesome!

S.

On 20 September 2013 17:12, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote:
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 On 9/20/13 8:25 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
 On 20/09/2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

 Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your
 Jabber ID in your email messages:

 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt

 For various reasons we never got this header registered with
 IANA, but on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add
 it to the provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.
 Can you do an Independent submission to RFC Editor? You already
 have a draft...

 Now that I think about it, I might resurrect this as an I-D and get it
 published as an RFC. I last pursued this back in 2007 when everyone
 (well, some influential people at the IETF) thought that the world
 would switch to using 'im:' and 'pres:' URIs. That hasn't exactly
 happened. :-)

 Peter

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Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-20 Thread Dominik George


Simon Tennant si...@buddycloud.com schrieb:
Not sure what this JabberID thing is

Has anyone thought of putting your XMPP-ID into an email header?

Now that would be awesome!

S.

On 20 September 2013 17:12, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im
wrote:
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 On 9/20/13 8:25 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
 On 20/09/2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

 Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your
 Jabber ID in your email messages:

 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt

 For various reasons we never got this header registered with
 IANA, but on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add
 it to the provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.
 Can you do an Independent submission to RFC Editor? You already
 have a draft...

 Now that I think about it, I might resurrect this as an I-D and get
it
 published as an RFC. I last pursued this back in 2007 when everyone
 (well, some influential people at the IETF) thought that the world
 would switch to using 'im:' and 'pres:' URIs. That hasn't exactly
 happened. :-)

 Peter

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 https://stpeter.im/


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No, it is a Jabber-ID. The user handle has been called JID forever, and it 
makes sense, because it identifies you in the network of federated XMPP-capable 
servers. The Jabber-ID carries an xmpp protocol schema.

On a side note, +1 for the header!


Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-20 Thread Genghis Khan
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:56:41 +0200
Dominik George n...@naturalnet.de wrote:

 
 
 Simon Tennant si...@buddycloud.com schrieb:
 Not sure what this JabberID thing is
 
 Has anyone thought of putting your XMPP-ID into an email header?
 
 Now that would be awesome!
 
 S.
 
 On 20 September 2013 17:12, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im
 wrote:
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  On 9/20/13 8:25 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
  On 20/09/2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 
  Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your
  Jabber ID in your email messages:
 
  http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt
 
  For various reasons we never got this header registered with
  IANA, but on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add
  it to the provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.
  Can you do an Independent submission to RFC Editor? You already
  have a draft...
 
  Now that I think about it, I might resurrect this as an I-D and get
 it
  published as an RFC. I last pursued this back in 2007 when everyone
  (well, some influential people at the IETF) thought that the world
  would switch to using 'im:' and 'pres:' URIs. That hasn't exactly
  happened. :-)
 
  Peter
 
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  https://stpeter.im/
 
 
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 No, it is a Jabber-ID. The user handle has been called JID forever,
 and it makes sense, because it identifies you in the network of
 federated XMPP-capable servers. The Jabber-ID carries an xmpp
 protocol schema.
 
 On a side note, +1 for the header!

Agreed.

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Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-20 Thread Joachim Lindborg
+1 from sweden as well.


2013/9/20 Alexey Melnikov alexey.melni...@isode.com

 On 20/09/2013 03:44, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

  Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your Jabber ID
 in your email messages:

 http://tools.ietf.org/id/**draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.**txthttp://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt

 For various reasons we never got this header registered with IANA, but
 on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add it to the
 provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.

 Can you do an Independent submission to RFC Editor? You already have a
 draft...

  Is there still interest in registering this header?

 Yes yes yes :-).




-- 
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Joachim Lindborg
CTO, systems architect

Sustainable Innovation AB
Adress: Box 55998 102 16 Stockholm
Besöksadress: Storgatan 31 (Malmgården)
Email: joachim.lindb...@sust.se, www.sust.se
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[Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-19 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
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Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your Jabber ID
in your email messages:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt

For various reasons we never got this header registered with IANA, but
on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add it to the
provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.

Is there still interest in registering this header?

Peter

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Re: [Standards] jabber-id email header

2013-09-19 Thread Mike Taylor
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On 09/19/2013 10:44 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
 Back in 2007 we defined an email header for advertising your Jabber
 ID in your email messages:
 
 http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-saintandre-jabberid-08.txt
 
 For various reasons we never got this header registered with IANA,
 but on re-reading RFC 3864 I've concluded that we could add it to
 the provisional register through a XEP instead of an RFC.
 
 Is there still interest in registering this header?

I'm +1 for this because it will make sense when we start using our JID
as an identity marker.

 
 Peter
 
 

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