RE: [NSP] VERBALNI DELIKT
Kazite nam ko je to bio. Moramo da znamo! Jovan Grbic _ On 12 Sep 2001, at 12:27, Jankovic, Tika wrote: Gospodine Bojovicu, Ja nikada nisam primetio ni trag Vase klevete bilogoga u krugu dopisnika na ovoj mrezi. Zapad je carstvo totalne i totalitarne blokade bilokakvog slobodnog misljenja, pisanog ili recenog. Naprimer, americka publika uziva pravo ispoljavanja svoga misljenja samo pet minuta svake cetvrte godine, prilikom glasanja. I tada nije garantovano glasacu da ce njegov glas stici do izabranog kandidata. U Americi je na vlasti JEDNA JEDINA PARTIJA, kobajagi dvokrilna, republikanska i demokratska, koje sluze jednom istom gazdi. Ucesce naroda u odlukama vlade je naglaseno u udzbenicima za skole i drugim propagandnim spisima za zaglupljivanje masa, domacih i stranih. Ova americka predstava sa rusenjem aviona je deo plana da se okonca svaki buduci pokusaj suprotstavljanja imperijalnoj sili i njenim planovima o osvajanju i pljacki sveta, i sopstvenog gradjanstva( odjuce je benzin u Cikagu poskupeo od $1.7/gall na $4.5/gall). Jedinu slobodu reci ovde uzivaju americka javna glasila u sluzbi korporacija i njihovih interesa. Ako ste neoprezno stali na njihov nozni prst, zverski ce vas napasti, sto sto su Vam vec ucinili. Tika Jankovic, Kalifornija -Original Message- From: Branko O. Bojovic [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:53 AM To: STOP NSP; Sorabia; promena; ljudska prava; KPYU; forum srpska kultura Subject: [NSP] VERBALNI DELIKT Postovana Gospodo, koliko smo samo zuci izlili optuzujuci nase bivse sisteme za diktaturu, totalitarizam, nepotizam, cenzuru, jednoumlje, staljinizam, fasizam... Dobivsi demokratsku vlast, nadali smo se da je to sve ostalo za nama. Na zalost, malo se toga sustinski promenilo! Normalno, ljudi su ostali isti. Zapad nas je podrzao u kritici zbog kontrole medija, alli videsmo sta se desilo Dan-u! Verbalni delikt je bio simbol obespravljenosti gradjana i krsenja ljudskih prava u prethodnom rezimu! Kao takav, oznacen je od strane Zapadnih demokratija kao primarni cilj za ukidanje. Slozili smo se sa tim. Sada sam suocen sa cinjenicom da mi se sa tog istog demokratskog Zapada preti zbog tog istog prestupa? Procitajte sledece reci koje sam primio od jednog stalnog ucesnika ovih foruma: ... garantijem vam da cete to gorko zazaliti . Vec danas cu pokrenuti tuzbu protiv vas kod EU suda, pa se smejte koliko hocete, ali znajte da cete to skupo platiti. Ovo jeste pretnja i to cu da ostvarim Eto tipicnog primera kako Zapadna demokratija prihvata ravnopravan odnos sa nama. Dok pevate kako oni sviraju, sve OK. Cim se usprotivite, makar samo i verbalno, eto kazne! Zasto me to toliko podseca na ono o sargarepi i stapu? Mozda i ja zavrsim u Seveningenu? Ko zna? Bar me vise nece muciti svakodnevna borba za prezivljavanje? U svrhu pripreme moje odbrane, molim sve ucesnike da mi pomognu i da pokusaju da nadju neku moju izjavu kojom iznosim neku klevetu, laz ili nekog vredjam. Pa neka me o tome blagovremeno upozore, kako bih se pripremio za zasticene svedoke i unakrsno ispitivanje! Salu na stranu, neverovatno je kolika je arogancija Zapadnjaka, koji misle da je dovoljno sto imaju pasos neke od zemalja iz G8, pa da su u svemu u pravu i da NIKO NE SME NI VERBALNO DA IM SE SUPROTSTAVI. Hoce li nas oni ikada ozbiljno saslusati? Pozdrav Branko O. Bojovic NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi --=_NextPart_000_015C_01C13BC4.7C4351E0-- NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] ptica ne moze, zatvorenik moze
U DOBRO CUVANOM ZATVORU BONDSTIL Ptica ne moze, zatvorenik moze U americkoj Vojnoj bazi u Sojevu kod Urosevca niko ne moze da zaviri iza resetaka Bondstil, Urosevac, 12. septembra Mada je baza Bondstil obezbedena, i na prvi pogled se cini da iz nje ni ptica ne moze da poleti, zabelezeno je vise slucajeva bezanja iz zatvora. Rec je o lokalnim Albancima, inace, uhapsenim pod sumnjom da su pocinili teska krivicna dela. Po recima americkog pres-oficira majora Normana Dzonsona u ovoj bazi nalazi se zatvor za nedisciplinovane vojnike i lokalne zitelje koji ostaju u pritvoru pre nego sto ih predaju zvanicnim sudskim vlastima. Losi momci U zatvoru, koji ne moze niko da poseti osim americkih marinaca koji ga obezbeduju i istraznih organa, trenutno se nalazi stotinak Albanaca, potvrdio je gospodin Dzonson. - Uhapseni su prilikom pokusaja da predu sa Kosova u Makedoniju. Oruzje su prenosili kako su znali i umeli. Za te tovare, preko planinskih vrleti, koristili su konje. Na onom brezuljku ogradenom zicom, vidite ga tamo, pokaza rukom, vise je od dvadeset konja. Na njima su prenosili oruzje - kazao je major Dzonson, pokazujuci rukom na visoravan, gde su oni mirno pasli. - Njihovi vlasnici mogu da ih povedu kad god hoce. Ali, izgleda, plase se da dodu po svoje zivotinje, verovatno zbog eventualne istrage koja bi mogla i na njih da se odnosi. U bazi postoji gradski saobracaj Bondstila. Rec je o kruznim linijama. Na prevoz se ne ceka dugo, jer na svakih 15 minuta autobus obilazi bazu. Pored americkih vojnika, ovde su i grcka 501. mehanizovana i poljski 18. vazduhoplovni bataljon, ruska 13. takticka grupa, 14. ukrajinska helikopterska i 37. motorizovana regimenta sa 130 vojnika, litvanski artiljerci i 100 vojnika iz Ujedinjenih Arapskih Emirata. Vojnici su smesteni u barake. Svaka je duzine 60, a sirine 15 metara. Ukupno ih ima 160, sa po sest soba. U muskim sobama je po sest, a u zenskim po tri vojnika. U svakoj sobi su erkondisn, tekuca voda, struja i telefonska veza. U americkom delu armije u bazi 10 odsto su zene. Americki placenici U Bondstilu se prvo nalazila aktivna americka vojska sa Aljaske koja je posle sest meseci boravka na Kosmetu demobilisana. Nju je smenila 127. mobilna jedinica rezervnog sastava. Pesadijske artiljerijske jedinice uglavnom cine Amerikanci starosti od 20 do 30 godina i tu su po ugovoru. Mesecna plata im je 2.000 dolara i plus 40 odsto dodatka koji im sleduje na osnovu ratne opasnosti, jer borave na Kosovu. Kako ovaj posao nije izuzetno privlacan cesto se medu ovim profesionalcima nadu i labilne osobe koje se zbog neprilagodavanja na kolektivni nacin zivota, novu sredinu, kao i na klimu, odaju alkoholu i narkomaniji. Dizu cak i ruku na sebe. Nedavno je jedan americki vojnik izvrsio samoubistvo. M. Laketic NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^ vrati.gif
[NSP] jednaka osuda terorizma i u SAD i na kosovu
SRPSKI PREMIJER GOST TV POLITIKA Jednaka osuda terorizma - i u SAD i na Kosovu Zoran Dindic u emisiji Presing rekao da svetu preti recesija, sto nije dobro za zemlju kao sto je nasa Predsednik Vlade Srbije Zoran Dindic izjavio je sinoc da su teroristicki napadi na Sjedinjene Americke Drzave dogadaji koji ce promeniti svet i istakao da se terorizam mora osuditi jednako - i u Americi, ali i na Kosovu. Osudujuci napade terorista bez presedana u novijoj svetskoj istoriji, srpski premijer je rekao u emisiji Presing Televizije Politika, da ce percepcija svetske politike prema nasilju biti izostrenija, sto ce, precizirao je Dindic, biti dobra prilika za nasu zemlju. Ne samo da duboko osudujemo svaku pojavu nasilja, vec, pokazali su to dogadaji u prethodnom vremenu, nasa zemlja bila je ugrozena upravo od teroristickih grupa, precizirao je Dindic, zalozivsi se za stisavanje konflikata u kriznim regionima na principima politickog posredovanja, investicija i ulaganja, umesto zaostravanja nasilja. Izrazivsi bojazan da ce posledice napada na Njujork i Vasington biti i produbljavanje svetske recesije, premijer je ukazao da takav scenario ne ide naruku zemljama koje pokusavaju da privuku investicije, kao sto je nasa. Zalozivsi se za jednaku osudu terorizma bilo gde na planeti, Dindic je podsetio da su u NATO bombardovanju stradali i jugoslovenski civili, kao sto su ginuli putnici u autobusu na Kosovu kada je naleteo na podmetnuti eksploziv. Predsednik srpske vlade upozorio je da se bez dokaza olako ne sme optuzivati arapski svet za odgovornost u teroristickim napadima, uocivsi da je u samoubilackim napadima bilo isuvise neobicnih elemenata. Napadnut je Svetski trgovinski centar koji nije samo simbol Amerike, u doba kada u tom delu Njujorka boravi mnogo stranaca, napomenuo je Dindic, pretpostavljajuci da je najmanje 20 samoubica ucestvovalo u akciji, sto pre ukazuje da je, mozda, rec o nekoj sektaskoj organizaciji, mozda nekoj politickoj sekti unutar SAD. Premijer je konstatovao da su stvari mnogo komplikovanije, od Osame bin Ladena i arapskih terorista. Komentarisuci odnose na srpskoj politickoj sceni, Dindic je, izmedu ostalog, rekao da, posle revolucije 5. oktobra, gradani realno zive bolje za 11 odsto, sto je jedan od najvecih uspeha njegovog kabineta. On je naglasio da su reforme koje sprovodi njegova vlada na dobrom putu, kao i da nijedna zemlja nije imala tako dobre reference na pocetku tranzicije od strane medunarodnih finansijskih institucija. Govoreci o svom imidzu u javnom mnjenju Srbije, premijer je rekao da je ovde formiran tip politicara koji ne resava probleme i ne ulazi u klinc, vec prica u izmaglici. Dindic je, takode, rekao da od DSS-a zavisi da li ce nastaviti ucesce u njegovom kabinetu, dodajuci: Koga nema, bez njega se moze. Prema njegovoj oceni, program vlade koju predvodi, u naredne dve do tri godine, nema alternativu, mada rekao je on, i mesto premijera ostaje otvoreno. A. Apostolovski NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] :Bin Laden - Some background facts
-Original Message- From: Miroslav Antic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Siem News [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 11:44 PM Subject: SN920:Bin Laden - Some background facts Laden has 20 nukes SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Monday, August 9, 1999 WASHINGTON -- Saudi fugitive Osama Bin Laden is believed to have up to 20 nuclear bombs and is seeking to launch a massive terrorist strike against the United States, a congressional investigator and author says. Yosef Bodansky, a researcher of the House Task Force for Counterterrorism and author of a new book on Bin Laden, told a news conference on Friday that Bin Laden has been seeking to follow up on his bombings of two U.S. embassies in east Africa one year ago. Echoing U.S. officials, Bodansky said Bin Laden was thwarted in plans to blow up the U.S. embassy and two consulates in India in last December and January. Bin Laden has biological, chemical and nuclear weapons and has received technical help from Iraq, Bodansky said. The nuclear weapons include suitcase bombs acquired through Chechniyan rebels. The Russians believe that he has a handful [of nuclear weapons], the Saudi intelligence services are very conservative . . . they are friendly to the United States, [and] believe that he has in the neighborhood of 20, Bodansky said. Bin Laden obtained and purchased the suitcase bombs from multiple sources, he said. He has a collection of individuals knowledgeable in activating the bombs and is recruiting former Soviet special forces [to learn] how to operate the bombs behind enemy lines. As far as decision-making in Washington is concerned, we should assume that he has them, he added. Most of them have been transferred through Pakistan. Let me stress here: We don't have any indication that they are going to use [them] tomorrow or any other day, added Bodansky, whose intelligence estimates and analyses are considered controversial in Washingon. But they have the capability, they have the legitimate authorization, they have the logic for using them. One does not [make] the tremendous amount of expenditures, effort, investment in human beings, in human resources, to have something that will be just kept somewhere in storage. Bodansky said Bin Laden has strong ties with Islamic fundamentalists throughout the Middle East, the Balkans, Britain and the United States. He refused to name any specific organization in the United States. There's a distinct minority within the Moslem community in the United States that is very sympathetic to his cause, to his analysis and interpretation of the relationship between the hub of Islam and the penetration of Westernization, Western culture and the like, he said. And a minority among this minority are known to have crossed the threshold of willingness to commit terrorist acts or commit violence. Many have been trained in Afghanistan, Bosnia and elsewhere throughout the Moslem world, so that they are capable. They have the skills and capabilities to carry out an operation as required. Bodansky said Bin Laden remains in Afghanistan. He said the Saudi is located in Islam Darva, about 80 kilometers northwest of Kandahar. When he wants to communicate with the outside world, he travels to Jalalabad, he said. Monday, August 9, 1999 NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Vesti SPO za 13.9.2001.
SRPSKI POKRET OBNOVE Èetvrtak, 13. septembra 2001. PONOVO SE UVODI SE PRETPLATA NA TV Dravna televizija biæe nezavisna i objektivna samo ako bude finansirana od strane svih graðana putem takse na elektrièno brojilo, poruèuje potpredsednik srpske Vlade arko Koraæ. Preuzimanje èuvene eeljeve takse na brojilo uz zadravanje nadaleko èuvenog julovsko-radikalskog zakona o univerzitetu predstavljaju samo deo iz mnotva simbola o nesposobnosti i bezidejnosti Ðinðiæevog kabineta. Paradoksalno je to to novi vlastodrci ele da izvre korenite politièke i ekonomske reforme u Srbiji angaujuæi ne samo struènjake iz biveg reima, veæ i uz oivljavanje njihovih nakaznih zakona. PREDSEDNITVO SPO ISKLjUÈILO IZ ÈLANSTVA ALEKSANDRA VLAHOVIÆA, MINISTRA ZA PRIVREDU I PRIVATIZACIJU Predsednitvo Srpskog pokreta obnove donelo je odluku da iz èlanstva stranke iskljuèi Aleksandra Vlahoviæa, ministra za privredu i privatizaciju u Vladi Srbije. Predsednitvo je ovu odluku donelo zbog Vlahoviæeve odgovornosti, kao resornog ministra, za drastiènan pad proizvodnje od preko deset posto, za otputanje s posla velikog broja radnika Crvene zastave i drugih preduzeæa, za pokuaj prodaje bez tendera i ispod ekonomske cene Beoèinske fabrike cementa, zbog nepostojanja odgovarajuæeg socijalnog programa u procesu privatizacije, kao i zbog ministrove objektivne odgovornosti to vlada Vlada Srbije vodi katastrofalnu ekonomsku i socijalnu politiku. Aleksandar Vlahoviæ postao je èlan optinskog odbora SPO Sopota 16. marta 1993. godine, a u stranaèkoj evidenciji zaveden je pod brojem 015-1. Vlahoviæ na odluku o iskljuèenju ima pravo albe Komisiji za Statut Srpskog pokreta obnove. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.spo.org.yu NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] OSUDITI TERORIZAM NA DELU, A NE NA RECIMA
OSUDITI TERORIZAM NA DELU, A NE NA RECIMA 13.9.2001. 10:44 CIVILIZOVANI SVET DUZAN JE DA OSUDI TERORIZAM NA DELU, A NE NA RECIMA (Moskva, RIA Novosti- ponuda za DANAS) U podne 13. septembra Rusija je minutom cutanja odala postu zrtvama teroristickih akata, koji su izvrseni 11. septembra u gradovima Amerike. Specijalni ukaz s tim u vezi izdao je predsednik Rusije Vladimir Putin. Ulaz u americku ambasadu u Moskvi zatrpan je cvecem, zapaljenim svecama i ikonama, koje su ovamo doneli Moskovljani zaleci zrtve teroristickih akata izvrsenih u Njujorku, Vasingtonu i Pitsburgu. U americku ambasadu telefoniraju Rusi nudeci svoju krv za postradale. Saradnici ambasade upucuju ih na Crveni krst i Ministarstvo za vanredne situacije. Predsednik Putin i ruski politicari svih ideoloskih orijantacija osudili su teroristicki akt medjunarodnog terorizma u SAD. Vladimir Putin je uputio telegram saucesca predsedniku SAD Dzordzu Bussu. Vlada i ministri Rusije ponudili su Drzavnom departmentu SAD svoju pomoc u otklanjanju posledica teroristickih akata. Ruske specijalne sluzbe su po svojim kanalima pocele prikupljati informacije koje bi pomogle americkim kolegama da otkriju zlocince. I obicni ljudi, a ne samo politicari, izrazavaju iskrenu podrsku Amerikancima na koje se srucila nesreca. I nije stvar toliko u tome sto se saosecanje, prezivljavanje tuge sa drugima i pruzanje pomoci u teskim trenucima smatra nacionalnom odlikom ruskog karaktera. Rusi, od kojih se mnogi ne slazu sa medjunarodnom politikom SAD, od kojih su mnogi bili ozlojedjeni zbog bombardovanja Jugoslavije i koji se ni danas ne mire zbog udara po Iraku, ipak ne osecaju zluradost povodom tragedije koja se desila Americi. Pre dve godine, septembra 1999. godine, prestonica Rusije dozivela je isto tako monstruozne teroristicke udare, kada su dignute u vazduh dve stambene zgrade na Ulici Gurjanova i Kassirskom putu. Nesto kasnije, odjeknula je eksplozija u neposrednoj blizini stambene zgrade u Volgodonsku (Povolozje), a zatim je dignuta u vazduh zgrada u Kaspijsku (Dagestan). U tim teroristickim aktima poginulo je oko 500 ljudi. Ti teroristicki akti u jesen 1999. godine posluzili su kao jedan od razloga za otpocinjanje antiteroristicke operacije federalnih snaga u Ceceniji, oznacili pocetak druge cecenske kampanje. I u vreme prve cecenske kampanje 1994 - 1996. godine, i posle 1999. godine, predsednici Rusije Boris Jeljcin i Vladimir Putin pokusavali su da ubede svetsko javno mnenje, kome ton daje Zapad, da je u Ceceniji stvoreno zariste medjunarodnog terorizma i da je Rusija danas objekat njenog usmerenog napada. Da antiruske vojne akcije u Ceceniji finansiraju medjunarodne ekstremisticke islamske organizacije, da one imaju dalekosezne ciljeve i da njihovo delovanje ne predstavlja opasnost samo po Rusiju, nego i Evropu, i citav svet. Medjutim, ti apeli nisu nailazili na saosecanje. Zapad je optuzivao Rusiju za prekomernu upotrebu sile, aludirao da je podmetanje eksplozija, toboze, organizovala Federalna sluzba bezbednosti, dok je teroristicko delovanje nazivao nacionalno-oslobodilackom borbom cecenskog naroda. I akcija sa hiljadama talaca koje je banda cecenskog teroriste Ssamila Basajeva zatocila u bolnici grada Budjonovska juna 1995. godine nije naisla na masovnu osudu u svetu, vec je ponegde izazvala osecanja zluradosti i zadovoljstva zbog ponizenja koje prezivljava Rusija. Predstavnici Drzavnog departmenta SAD primali su na razgovore predstavnike cecenskih terenskih komandira, koji su sebi zaradjivali za hleb otimanjem talaca i trgovinom njima, dok su im solidne evropske organizacije ustupale tribine na svojim forumima. Eksplozije u Americi pokazale su, da sve dotle dok u svetu bilo ko bude opravdavao terorizam, smatrajuci ga ispoljavanjem nacionalno-oslobodilacke borbe, borbe nacionalnih manjina za svoja prava, borbe za prava coveka i jos kojecim, svaka zemlja ce se pre ili kasnije naci pod udarom. Teroristi, koji nemaju kocnice, uvek ce naci povod da pokrenu paklenu masinu, da ubiju taoce ili usmere putnicki avion u neboder. Kao povod moze posluziti i borba protiv imperijalizma, i trijumf islama u celom svetu, i borba za prava etnickih manjina, i sta god hocete. Sve dotle dok u svetu budu funkcionisali dupli standardi, po kojima je rusenje zgrada u Rusiji jedno, a rusenje nebodera u SAD - nesto drugo, terorizam nece biti pobedjen i nastavice da zanje krvavu zetvu po celom svetu. Dogadjaji od 11. septembra 2001. godine u Americi predstavljaju se kao zaokret u istoriji citavog covecanstva. To je dan kada je civilizovani svet duzan da shvati nuznost ujedinjenja, uzajamnog delovanja i slozne osude ispoljavanja terorizma jednom i zauvek i to na delu, a ne na recima, nezavisno od toga pod kojim parolama taj terorizam nastupa. Kako je izjavio Vladimir Putin, izrazavajuci misljenje citavog ruskog naroda, ono sto se dogodilo u SAD jos jednom apostrofira aktuelnost predloga Rusije da se udruze napori medjunarodne zajednice u borbi protiv terorizma, te kuge XXI veka.
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Ruska obavetajna sluba zna ko stoji iza teroristièkih napada na Njujork i Vaington Odgovorni Bin Laden, Uzbekistanci i talibani Moskva je jo pre nekoliko nedelja upozorila Vaington na opasnost, a na prekjuèeranjem tajnom sastanku u seditu CIA njen predstavnik je amerièkim obavetajcima predao dokumenta i snimke telefonskih razgovora koji ukazuju na krivce MOSKVA (Tanjug, Beta) - Specijalni predstavnik ruske obavetajne slube predao je prekjuèe jednom od zamenika direktora CIA, na tajnom sastanku koji je odran u seditu CIA u Lengliju, dokumenta, meðu kojima su i snimci telefonskih razgovora, u vezi s teroristièkim akcijama u Vaingtonu i Njujorku, saznaje se u vojnim i policijskim struktarama u Rusiji. http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/spacer.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/black.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/spacer.gif Bin Laden nije uhapen i nema bosanski paso Talibanske vlasti u Avganistanu demantovale su izvetaje da je uhapen Osama bin Laden. Ne mislimo da Osama stoji iza nedavnih napada u Americi, buduæi da njegova grupa nema sposobnosti da organizuje udare takve snage, tvrde u Kabulu. Arapski on-lajn list Ilaf citirao je prethodno fundamentalistièke izvore koji su nagovestili da su talibani uhapsili Bin Ladena i stavili ga pod nadzor, jednako kao i voðu egipatskog ogranka organizacije Al Dihad Ajmana Al-Zavarija i vojnog komandanta Al Kaide Muhameda Atefa Al-Mahnija. ef MUP-a FBiH Muhamed Beiæ demantovao je za Sense sarajevske Dane koji tvrde da je Ambasada BiH u Beèu 1993. izdala paso Osami bin Ladenu: To nije taèno. Saèinili smo kompletnu analizu i utvrdili da je to potpuno pogrena informacija. http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/spacer.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/black.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/sapcer/spacer.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/spacer.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/black.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/black.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/spacer.gif Prema podacima kojima raspolau pomenuti izvori, tvrdi moskovska Izvestija, ruski obavetajci znaju ko su organizatori i poèinioci ovih teroristièkih akata. tavie, Moskva je nekoliko nedelja ranije upozorila Vaington na moguænost takvih napada. Ruska obavetajna sluba tvrdi da iza teroristièkih napada u Vaingtonu i Njujorku stoje: organizacija Osame bin Ladena, uzbekistanski Islamski pokret i talibanska vlada. Prema podacima ruskih obavetajaca, meðu teroristima-kamikazama bilo je najmanje dvoje Uzbekistanaca koji su, zahvaljujuæi lanim dokumentima, uspeli da uðu u Ameriku pre deset meseci. Akciju je organizovala grupa od 25 ljudi, pri èemu su svi uèesnici proli specijalnu obuku na teritoriji Avganistana i Pakistana, gde su izmeðu ostalog obuèeni i za upravljanje avionom. Teroristi su pripremali akcije godinu i po dana. Kako tvrde u ruskoj obavetajnoj slubi, Bin Ladenova organizacija uvek raspolae sa skoro 400 fanatika-kamikaza, koji u bilo kojem trenutku mogu da krenu u akciju protiv graðana i objekata SAD po èitavom svetu. http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/spacer.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/red.gif http://www.glas-javnosti.co.yu/_g/spacer/red.gif NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^ spacer.gif black.gif red.gif
[NSP] Cistka medu obavetajcima
Teroristièki napad na SAD i posledice u obavetajnim slubama Èistka meðu obavetajcima BERLIN (SENSE) - Jedanaesti septembar, crni dan amerièkih obavetajnih slubi koje nisu raspolagale nikakvim naznakama za tragediju to se, besumnje, mesecima pripremala, podstakao je iroke rasprave o efikasnosti i organizaciji amerièke obavetajne zajednice. Nju èine CIA, spoljna obavetajna sluba, NSA, tehnièka sluba za prislukivanje i kontrolu elektronskih komunikacija , u èijoj su nadlenosti moæni tehnièki sistemi, kojima je pokrivena cela planeta i NRO, nacionalna sluba za izviðanje, koja razpolaze najmodernijim foto-satelitima, kojima je pokriven svaki pedalj Zemljine povrine. Uprkos tehnièkoj i tehnolokoj superiornosti, amerièkoj obavetajnoj zajednici su za proteklih osam godina promakli mnogi dogaðaji zbog kojih obavetajne slube zapravo postoje: atentat na amerièke vojnike u Bejrutu (1983), iraèki upad u Kuvajt (1990), koji je naknadno doveo do rata protiv Iraka, prvi napad na Svetski trgovinski centar (1993), napad na amerièke vojnike u Daranu (1996), napad na amerièke ambasade u Keniji i Tanzaniji (1998), indijske i pakistanske nuklearne probe (1998), napad na amerièki ratni brod Kol (Cole) u Jemenu (2000). U ovom periodu su, razume se, amerièke slube otkrile i spreèile mnoge teroristièke akcije, o kojima se sada ne govori, ali, posle tragedije u Njujorku i Vaingtonu mnogi Amerikanci i njihovi prijatelji u svetu imaju oseæanje koje je amerièki republikanski kongresmen Kert Veldon izrazio reèima: Izgleda kao da obavetajnih slubi i nema. SAD troe godinje za obavetajne slube oko 30 milijardi dolara, pri èemu najveæi deo odlazi na tehnièke (signalne) slube (SIG-INT), a znatno manji na odravanje agentskih mrea (HUM-INT). U ovom favorizovanju tehnièkih, nasuprot humanim izvorima obavetajnih informacija, mnogi eksperti, na èija se miljenja oslanja jedna analiza Frankfurter algemajne cajtunga, vide glavnu slabost amerièke obavetajne zajednice i neposredan uzrok njenih promaaja, koji su kuliminirali sadanjom tragedijom. Iako raspolau nesumnjivo najveæom kolièinom najraznovrsnijih podataka (sistem eelon, na primer, snima tri miliona faks-poruka, e-majlova i telefonskih razgovora u minutu) amerièke obavetajne slube nemaju dovoljan broj analitièara koji æe te podatke obraditi. Tako se, recimo, moglo dogoditi da je, posle teroristièkog napada na ambasade u Keniji i Tanzaniji, naknadnom analizom utvrðeno da su blagovremeno stajali na raspolaganju podaci koji su ukazivali na pripremu ovih napada, ali nije bilo analitièara koji bi ih sredili i povezali u logiènu celinu. Obavetajni eksperti tvrde, takoðe, da se efikasna borba protiv terorizma moe voditi samo uz postojanje mree agenata, od koji bi se neki infiltrirali u teroristièke organizacije. Meðutim, amerièke slube su, sa okonèanjem hladnog rata, zapostavile razvoj i izgradnju mree agenata, tako da sada raspolau znatno manjim brojem agenata, posebno na Bliskom istoku, nego druge zapadne slube. Tragedija koja se dogodila upozorava da su neophodne promene koncepta ovih slubi. Kotrljaæe se neke glave, kako se izrazio Tim Jardli, jedan od eksperata za borbu protiv terorizma. _ Specijalno za Blic Branislav Miloeviæ Stratfor: Najveæi obavetajni neuspeh u amerièkoj istoriji HJUSTON (Beta) - Izvestan broj putnièkih aviona je bio otet i njima su upravljali piloti koji su dovoljno sposobni da usmere te letelice u glavne institucije - to je ono to je za sada poznato, ocenjuje amerièka agencija za strateka istraivanja Stratfor. Za svaki od tih sluèajeva bilo je potrebno prisustvo najmanje jednog, a najverovatnije vie otmièara spremnih da i sami poginu u napadu, navodi se u izvetaju agencije, uz ocenu da organizovanje napada takvog obima nije bilo jednostavno. Uruavanje oba tornja Svetskog trgovinskog centra u Njujorku ukazuje na snane odloene eksplozije, to znaèi da je u avionima bilo eksploziva ili su velike kolièine eksploziva bile postavljene u same zgrade. To je pretpostavka, nastavlja se izvetaju, ali se uruavanje zgrada moe objasniti samo sekundarnim eksplozijama. To zapravo znaèi da je veliki broj osoba bio ukljuèen u operaciju. Morale su da postoje koordinisane akcije na vie kontinenata, tempirane za priblino isto vreme. Moguæe je da je bilo ukljuèeno vie desetina ljudi, poto su razmenjivane poruke, ifrovane i druge, a, èini se da ipak nijedna obavetajna sluba nije uspela da se priblii zaverenicima. Nijedna znaèajnija poruka nije uhvaæena ili deifrovana, navodi se u izvetaju Stratfora. Agencija ocenjuje da neuspeh amerièke obavetajne slube u otkrivanju operacije takvog obima ukazuje na moguænost da je njena sposobnost precenjena ili da je zakazala obazrivost administracije u odgovoru na upozorenja. U drugom sluèaju, sistem je teko naruen. S druge strane, moguæe je da se protivobavetajna tehnika terorista toliko poboljala ili da vie
[NSP] ODLOZENO SUDJENJE MILANOVICU
Title: Message ODLOZENO SUDJENJE MILANOVICU Pocetak sudjenja bivsem generalnom direktoru Radio-televizije Srbije (RTS) Dragoljubu Milanovicu, koji je optuzen da je odgovoran za pogibiju 16 radnikadrzavne televizije u vazdusnom napadu NATO na zgradu RTS u Beogradu, odlozeno je za sutra kako bi se okrivljenom omogucio uvid u spise predmeta.Milanovic ce se sutra izjasniti o optuznici koja ga tereti za izazivanje opste opasnosti, odnosno da nije ucinio nista da spase zivote 16 radnika drzavne televizije u bombardovanju zgrade RTS u Beogradu 23. aprila 1999. godine.Za to krivicno delo zaprecena je kazna zatvora od 15 godina.Na pocetku danasnjeg postupka, branilac Milanovica, advokat Branimir Gugl izneo je primedbu da ni njegov klijent, niti on nisu imali uvid u sve spise predmeta.U kratkom obracanju sudskom vecu, Milanovic je rekao da se "godinu dana protiv njega sprovodi fizicki linc, medijska satanizacija i pravno nasilje", ali ga je sudija posle tih reci prekinula, rekavsi mu da ce imati dovoljno vremena i mesta za odbranu.(Beta) NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Kolateralna steta se vraca
Title: Message IZ FENIKSA,ARIZONA -SPECIJALNI KOMENTAR Bob Djurdjevic 12.09.2001. "Kolateralna steta" se vraca Mateja 26:52 - "Vrati svoj mac u korice", rekao mu je Isus, "Jer svi koji se maca late od maca ce i poginuti" FENIKS, utorak, 11. septembar 2001. - "Ne mogu da verujem sta se desava" , rekao mi je jutros sokirani blizak prijatelj o najsmrtonosnijem napadu na americkom tlu jos od Perl Harbura (ili mozda uopste?)."Nista to nije iznenadjujuce", odgovorio sam. "Ja sam video isuvise tragedija (sirom sveta) u poslednjih 11 godina, neke i licno, kao sto znas,da bi me ista vise zbunilo". Nije to bio blazirani odgovor. Samo cinjenican. Tako sam muobjasnio. Kad su"jedina svetska supersila" i njeni saveznici bombardovali i ubili na hiljade nevinih civila u Iraku i Srbiji, Amerikancima je receno da je to bila samo "kolateralna steta". Na kraju krajeva, mi,"prvaci demokratije i slobodnog sveta", samo smo se borili protiv ubilackih rezima Sadama Huseina i Slobodana Milosevica.Neke civilne zrtve su bile"za zaljenje, ali neizbezne", rekli su namportparoli Pentagona, NATO-a ili Stejt Departmenta. Sada su se stvari okrenule. Terorizam izaziva terorizam. Neimenovani teroristi,pretpostavlja se da su"islamski fundamentalisti", sada su ubili na hiljade nevinih Amerikanaca u borbi protiv, kako oni misle, ubilackih rezima Bila Klintona i Dzordza V. Busa. Sada Amerikanci znaju iz prve ruke nesto od uzasa koji su osecali stanovnici Bagdada i Beograda kad su NATO bombarderi izbacivali svoj smrtonosni tovar na njih. Jedina stvar koja nedostaje su portparoli terorista koji nam govore sada da "je to bila samo"kolateralna steta"; da su neke civilne zrtve za zaljenje, ali neizbezne". Ono sto smo mi radili Iraku i Srbiji bio jedrzavni terorizam. Ono sto su neimenovani teroristi uradili nama danas bila je odmazda za drzavni terorizam."Kolateralna steta" se na grozan nacin vratila pociniocu."Sve se vraca, sve se placa"."Ko se s vatrom igra, od vatre se i opece". Ali pazite: Ovo NIJE bio"Napad na Ameriku", kakoga nazivajuCNN i druge TV mreze. Ovo je bio napad u srce Novog svetskog poretka pod vodjstvom Vasingtona. Znakovi su nepogresivi. Pogledajte samo mete: Svetski trgovinski centar/Vol Strit,Pentagon...Neki izvori spekulisu da su jedan ili oba oteta aviona koji su se srusili u Pensilvaniji mogli imati za cilj Belu Kucu ili Kapitol. Amerika iAmerikanci, odnosno nevini civili koji su danas poginuli, su "samo kolateralna steta". Kao sto su bili i iracki i srpski civili.Mi sada placamo za agresije i zlocine protiv covecnosti koje je pocinila nasa vlada.Bas kao sto su placali i iracki i srpski civili.Mi smo postali osobe bez kojih se moze. Bas kao sto su to bili i iracki i srpski civili. Tako da kad god cujete nekog politicara ili medijsku licnost da kaze da je ovaj napad bio"neisprovociran"; da je ovo ubistvo nevinih "muskaraca, zena i dece"; da je ovo bionapad na"americki stil zivota" - a nema sumnje da cete videti i cuti mnogo toga u narednim satima i danima - pokusajte da preokrenete uloge. Zamislite da slusate nekog irackog ili srpskog politicara koji koristi ove reci vezano za zrtve americkih bombi. I onda cete dobiti potpuniju sliku onoga sto se danas desilo. U medjuvremenu, ludost takodje izaziva ludost.Prasina se jos nije slegla od zgrada Svetskog trgovinskog centra koje su se srusile, a vecneki "sokolovi" u americkoj vladi i medijima traze"osvetnicke napade".To je prilicno plitko na na nekoliko nivoa. Prvo, isti oni"sokolovi" koji nam bombasticno govore da je"Amerika u ratu" ne mogu da navedu sa kim je u ratu.Tako da kome i cemu da se osvetimo? Drugo, takvi"sokolovi" nikad ne nauce lekciju. Covek samo treba da pogleda Bliski Istokza primer uzaludnosti nasilja.da bi zaustavio anti-americki terorizam, vasington mora da zaustavi sopstveni drzavni terorizam.Oba tipa terorizma supodla i neoprostiva. Konacno, ako postoji nesto pozitivno u ovoj ogromnoj americkoj tragediji, ako postoji jedna dobra stvar koja izlazi iz celog ovog ludila - nadajmo se da je to smrt tesheme"trgovaca smrcu" - nacionalnog Odbrambenog raketnog stita. Ovaj stitguraju niz grlo americkih poreskih i Klintonova i Busova administracija, uprkos protivljenjuvecine nasih saveznika. Sada imam veoma prosto pitanje za americkog predsednika: U svetlu onoga sto se danas dogodilo u Njujorku, Vasingtonu i Pensilvaniji, kako bi nas vas nacionalni Raketni odbrambeni stit zastitio od ovog napada? Odgovor je ocigledan. Kongres bi trebalo daubije ovaj stit pre nego sto on ubije nas - finansijski i geopoliticki! U medjuvremenu, nekase Bog smiluje dusama svih nevinih ljudi koji su danas umrli kao "kolateralna steta" Klintonove/Busove spoljne politike. Novi svetski poredak pod vodjstvom Vasingtona se na grozan nacin vratio kuci. Jer, "ko se maca lati od maca ce i poginuti". [ Prethodni clanci ] Copyright 2000 beograd.com. All Rights Reserved. NSP
[NSP] Zato je Ni grad sa najvie samoubistava
** Zato je Ni grad sa najvie samoubistava *** Nilije umorne od ivota ** Ove godine je 48 ljudi, uglavnom mukaraca, oduzelo sebi ivot, a u poslednja dva meseca èak 38 Nilija pokualo da se ubije .Ni je imao najveæi broj civilnih rtava u NATO bombardovanju, a ujedno je i sedite Treæe armije VJ koja je u ratu 1999. godine pretprela najveæi broj rtava. Jug Srbije godinama je bio glavni rezervoar za popunjavanje sastava vojske koja je ratovala od Slovenije do Kosova. U gigantima nike privrede EI i MIN prepolovljen broj radnika koji su egzistenciju potraili na buvljaku, ili u narodnim kuhinjama AIM, Beograd,13.9.2001. U prvih osam meseci ove godine u Niu je svakog petog dana po jedna osoba izvrila samoubistvo.Do poèetka septembra 48 ljudi je odluèilo da okonèaju svoj ivot u gradu koji je nekada vaio za sinonim dobre zabave i junjaèkog temperamenta. Crnim rekordom Ni je preuzeo primat i od Subotice koja je dugo godina bila grad sa najveæim brojem samoubica. Osim onih koji su uspeli u svojoj nameri da sebi oduzmu ivot, èak 38 Nilija je u poslednja dva meseca pokualo da se ubije. Kao razlog za takav pokuaj oni su naveli opte osiromaenje ivota, oseæaj opteg umora i nemoguænost da ih bilo ta oraspoloi. Svaka kriza koja èoveka dovede do samoubistva je lièno motivisana. Radi se o nekom unutranjem konfliktu koji je potenciran i izveden na povrinu nepovoljnim spoljanjim faktorima, objanjava dr Gordana Nikoliæ iz Zavoda za mentalno zdravlje. Iako je suicid inspirisan liènom dramom struènjaci ipak priznaju da su poslednjih deset godina ivota u Srbiji svakako uticale na mentalno zdravlje. Normalno je da splet spoljanjih okolnosti koje su kod nas poslednjih deset godine izuzetno nepovoljne, stvaraju mnogo vie spoljanjih provocirajuæih faktora koji bi mogli jednu osobu sklonu samoubistvu da dovedu do odluke da digne ruku na sebe, kae dr Nikoliæ. Morbidna statistika ukazuje da u broju samoubistava u Niu prednjaèe mukarci koji su u 35 sluèaja oduzeli sebi ivot. Prema statistici nike policije, u èetrdeset sluèajeva motiv za samoubistvo je nepoznat, dok je u pet sluèajeva razlog bila duevna bolest.Èak i kod osoba kod kojih se ne zna motiv pitanje je da li se moda ne radi o poèetku duevne bolesti. Takva moguænost ipak postoji. Teki unutranji konflikti izvedeni su na povrinu najèeæe konfliktom sa nama znaèajnom osobom, razoèarenjem, gubitkom nade, objanjava dr Nikoliæ. Pitanje ta je sve te ljude navelo da okonèaju ivot ostaæe bez odgovora jer prema reèima struènjaka za takav odgovor je neophodna psiholoka autopsija, analiza post mortem ivota u svakom od 48 sluèajeva. Pitanje je da li bi uopte doli do odgovora ta je te ljude navelo na suicid i da li uopte postoji neki zajednièki faktor, kae dr Nikoliæ. Ipak, u 31 sluèaju zajednièki je naèin izvrenja samoubistva. Veanje, koje je u Srbiji veæ postalo naèin tradicionlanog suicida, prema reèima dr Nikoliæ ukazuje na pravu suicidnu nameru.Veanje je izraz doneene odluke da se ivot okonèa, to nije samo demonstracija i poziv u pomoæ, kae ona. Objanjenje zato je ba u Niu broj samoubica postao alarmantan ne mogu da daju ni struènjaci. Ipak, ukoliko odluka o suicidu zavisi i od onoga to nas okruuje, Ni bi mogao da bude predstavljen i kao idealna kulisa za proseènog samoubicu. Grad koji je imao najveæi broj civilnih rtava u NATO bombardovanju ujedno je i sedite Treæe Armije VJ koja je u ratu 1999. godine pretprela najveæi broj rtava. Osim najvie pogodjenog grada u ratu, jug Srbije godinama je bio glavni rezervoar za popunjavanje sastava vojske koja je ratovala od Slovenije do Kosova. Sivilo ivota u Niu upotpunjuje i prièa o gigantima nike privrede u kojima je nekada radilo i nekoliko desetina hiljada radnika. Samo u nikoj elektronskoj i metalskoj industriji EI i MIN od 1990. godine broj radnika je prepolovljen. Veæina tih radnika koji su ostali bez posla pokuali su da svoju egzistenciju obezebde na buvljacima. Oni koji nikako nisu uspeli da sebi obezbede makar i hranu nali su se medju 2000 grdajana koji se hrane u narodnim kuhinjama. Broj besplatnih obroka u Niu bi bio znatno veæi da nije sve manje pomoæi donatora. Danas je mnogo tee zaposliti se, mnogo je tee obezbediti materijlanu egzistenciju i ostvariti ideale normlanog ivota. Sve te spoljane okolnosti provociraju suicidna stanja u èoveku, zakljuèuje dr Nikoliæ. # Zoran Kosanoviæ (AIM) NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Jugoslavija: zapadni vazal?
Title: Message Bob Djurdjevic: Specijalna serija o situaciji na Balkanu 07.09.01. Jugoslavija: zapadni vazal? "Demokratske" maske DOS-a pale su 28. juna2001. (Vidovdan), kad je srpski premijerZoran Djindjic prekrsio zakone i ustavzemljetajnim slanjem bivseg jugoslovenskog predsednikaSlobodana Milosevica Medjunarodnom sudu za ratne zlocine u Hagu. To je uradio samo iz jednog razloga - dazadovoljisvojegazde u Vasingtonu.U jednoj iznenadnoj akciji Djindjic je pokazao daDOS ima malo veze sa demokratijom i pravdom, a puno sa novcem i potcinjenoscu. Posle28. juna jugoslovenski premijer je podneo ostavku, sto je zapretilo da baciJugoslaviju u politicki haos.Najvaznijastranka DOS-a,DSS Vojislava Kostunice, navodno razmatra izlazenje iz koalicije koja ju je dovela do pobede nad Milosevicem prosle jeseni. Na stranu pravni principi i cast,Djindjic je mislio da je dobio sta je hteo za svoju izdaju demokratskih ipravnih principa.Mislio je da je dobio zapadni novac. Srpski premijer je rekao za list New York Times (1. jula) da je spreman da se suoci sa svakim padomsopstvene popularnosti u interesu obezbedjivanja 1,3 milijarde USD medjunarodne pomoci i izraza dobre volje."Sa popularnoscu ne mozete nista da uradite", rekao je, "Alisa kreditima mozete".(Za vise o dugoj ljubavnoj aferi ovog srpskog politicara sa zapadnim novcem i moci,pogledajte kolumnu ovog pisca u listuWashington Times iz decembra1996. "Filosofija nicega - http://www.truthinmedia.org/Columns/clip7.html" i TiM bilten iz decembra1999. "Skakutanje sa neprijateljem" - http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins99/tim99-12-8.html ).Obratite paznju na rec"krediti" koju jeDjindjic upotrebio, a NE pomoc ili donacije, kako implicira naziv"donatorske" konferencije od29. juna. Uprkos cinjenici da je Srbija razorena 78-dnevnim NATO bombardovanjemciji je rezultat biopreko 2.000 izgubljenih zivota i vise od30 milijardi USDstete, sve sto ce ova zemlja dobiti od Zapada za to sto je izgubila svoj suverenitet i prodala svoj ponos je zlatna omca - vise ZAJMOVA, a ne bezuslovne ratne reparacije. Kako je to jedan citalac web sajtaTiMsuvo primetio: "Milosevic je od nas ukrao 4 milijarde USDi prebacio ih u zapadne banke. Sada nam Zapad pozajmljuje 1,3 milijarde USD naseg sopstvenog novca, a onda jos i uzima kamatu na to".I kako je prosaoDjindjic sa svojom trgovinom cast-za-novac? Manje od mesec dana nakon predajeMilosevica srpski premijer jenegodovao zbog izdajeZapada, tokom svoje posete Nemackoj sredinom jula."Kad sam bio u opoziciji Evropska unija nam je obecala tri milijarde maraka (oko1,4 milijarde USD) u gotovini zaMilosevica", rekao je on u intervjuu nemackom casopisuDer Spiegel."Gde je to?Ja ozbiljno upozoravam Zapad. Ako moja vlada padne, to ce medjunarodnu zajednicu kostati 10 milijardi USD".Samo 10 milijardi USD? Djindjic je rekao da je Beograd ocekivao da primi prvu ratu od 300 miliona evra(255 miliona USD) do avgusta, ali je otkrio da ce 225 miliona evra od toga ici na isplacivanje starih dugova... "Ja gubim kredibilitet i ne mogu vise da stabilizujem zemlju.Mi nismo pravili nikakve uslove za predaju. Zeleli smo da pokazemo nasu dobru volju da se integrisemo u medjunarodnu zajednicu"."Ali moram da priznam da sam sokiran farsom zapadne pomoci koja bi trebalo da iznosi 1,3 milijarde USD", rekao je on."Akoodmah ne dobijemo finansijsku inekciju, imacemo demonstracije i nemire najkasnije do septembra".U medjuvremenu, jugoslovenski predsednikKostunica tvrdi da nije znao za tajni transferMilosevica iz Beograda u Hag.Nije tako, kaze Djindjic u svom intervjuu za list Times objavljenom 1. jula. Evo odlomka:"G. Djindjic kaze da je g.Kostunica znao za njegovu odluku da odrzi rec koju je dao medjunarodnoj zajednici i iznad svega americkom drzavnom sekretaru Kolinu Pauelu. On je rekao da mu je g.Pauel rekaoda ce SAD ucestvovati na vaznoj donatorskoj konferenciji za Jugoslaviju u petak, ako obeca da ce sprovesti dekret izdat proslog vikenda, kojim se vlada obavezala da posalje g.Milosevica Hagu. "U ovom trenutku, rekao sam Kostunici, da li bi trebalo da to obecam, a on je rekao`da`", kaze g.Djindjic" (ceo clanak u listu Times pogledajte nahttp://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/01/world/01BELG.html ).Neki drugiTiM izvori u Srbijitakodje su potvrdili Djindjicevu verziju onoga sto se dogodilo 28. juna.Ono sto oni kazu cinida popularni jugoslovenski predsednikizgleda kao osoba kojagovori sa obe strane usta.Kostunica vazi kao neko ko je navodno bio protiv slanja Milosevica u Hag. U igriza domacu javnost on jetvrdio da nije znao za Milosevicev transfer na Vidovdan. Ali se poslusno pomirio s tim i mahnuo repom svojim zapadnim gazdamakad su zapretili da zadrze 1,3 miliona USD kredita. U svakom slucaju,Kostunica bi trebalo da da ostavku, kazu neki citaoci TiM u svojim pismima. Ako se Milosevicev transfer stvarno odigrao bez njegovog znanja,Kostunica bi trebalo da da ostavku
[NSP] VERBALNI DELIKT
Postovana Gospodo, za one koji to jos nisu videli u danasnjoj posti, ostrasceni Bojovico-mrzac je glavom i bradom Dragan Rakic! Evo napokon da se i on oglasi na forumima na kojima nema zastitu moderatora. Cak mi je jedan moderator pretio iskljucenjem sa foruma i zahtevao da se izvinem Rakicu, navodeci da sam ga "vredjao"?? Posto uvreda nije ni bilo, naravno, izostalo je i izvinjenje. Zato Rakic javno nastavlja sve zesce da me vredja, a privatno da mi preti. Evo jucerasnje pretnje upucene direktno meni: "Za klevetu Bojovicu, za klevetu. A ja isto uredno arhivisem to sto sam napisao. Bojovicusamo se sprdajte ali verujte mi da cete pregristi jezik i da vise necete videti Zapada" Da mi je samo znati sta sam ga to oklevetao? Izgleda da je on pobrkao neke loncice. On tvrdi da me je nesto pitao a ja za to neznam? Verovatno je u pitanju paranoja, jer uporno tvrdi da smo Branka (iz Holandije) i ja, iste osobe??? Osim toga, onog trenutka kada je sam, svojevoljno, izneo neke podatke iz svog licnog zivota, zaista ne shvatam kako moje ponavljanje TIH ISTIH podataka moze biti kleveta? Necu ponavljati njegove reci (iz epskih pesama), ni epitete koje mi je uputio i koji ocigledno imaju za CILJ DA ME UVREDE, ali definitivno je zabrinjavajuca cinjenica da je ovaj covek izgubio kontrolu i da je prekoracio granicu pristojnosti i lepog vaspitanja! Neznam kakve veze sa ovom celom prepiskom imaju moji roditelji? Mozda neko zna? Ko je pazljivo pratio ranije objavljene tekstove, verovatno je zapamtio njegov komentar povodom "otkrica" hladnjaca, koji je poslao pod naslovom "ISTINA", a u kome pise: citat: "Narodi koji ne znaju istinu o sebi nemaju budunost, Stvar je nae zrelosti da se suoimo s tom istinom, ma kakva ona bila." Ili drugi citat: "Pitanje Hag-a, je sporecno, ali se varate da nema cnjenica. O toj osetljivoj temi, tj ; cinjenicama cak ni na ovom forumu ne trba otvoreno pricati Mislim da je ovo dovoljno da bi se stekao uvid u njegovo vidjenje karaktera Srpske nacije. Ne bih Vas sada zamarao njegovim citatima o "svedocenjima" koja "dokazuju" mnogobrojne zlocine koje su Srbi pocinili sirom bivse SFRJ, za koje on kaze "da su cinjenica"? Ali je interesantno sto sada, kada je prozvan, odjednom "blago" menja iskaz i kaze: "...ako su zlocini pocinjeni onda to treba i priznati..." Ovo, do duse, nisam bas najbolje razumeo: "...necete mi reci da se ne secate da je Seselj nije delio smare na peronu savezne kupstine" Mozda zbog onog "perona ispred Skupstine"? Ali razumem ga, covek je ocigledno pisao u afektu (moze li se to okarakterisati kao "nervno rastrojstvo"?). Vidim da ga interesuju moji licni podaci, pa se prosto pitam ZASTO? E, pa Rakitju, netje motji (po pirocanski)! Pozdrav svima od Branka O. Bojovica NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Global Intelligence Cooperation
___ S T R A T F O R THE GLOBAL INTELLIGENCE COMPANY http://www.stratfor.com ___ 13 September 2001 COMPLIMENTARY INTELLIGENCE REPORT - FULL TEXT ___ **NOTE** This is a complimentary full-text intelligence report, normally reserved for members only. For full-text reports every day and access to the full range of global intelligence, become a member today! http://www.stratfor.com/COMPANY/info ___ Global Intelligence Cooperation Comes With Risks 2355 GMT, 010913 Summary The United States is now building coalition support for its response to Sept. 11 terror attacks. The chief benefit of cooperation with the international community will be intelligence. The ease with which the terrorists struck demonstrates a gaping hole in U.S. intelligence capabilities that allies may help to fill. A host of nations have jumped at the chance to build cooperation with the United States, but such collaboration comes with a price. Analysis U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sept. 13 that the United States would seek to build a coalition response to terror attacks in Washington, D.C., and New York City. A host of countries -- including China, India, Israel, Pakistan, Russia and Saudi Arabia -- have offered to help the United States track down those responsible. The offers come when the United States has dire need for intelligence on the activities, operations, networks and funding of foreign terrorist organizations based in Africa, the Middle East and central and southeast Asia. But global counterterrorism cooperation among a group of nations could be a catch-22 for the United States. Other nations will seek to shape the United States' coming war against terrorism to suit their own interests. For Washington, this presents a strategic dilemma. Cooperation is necessary and invaluable, but the benefits must be weighed against the motivations of the many actors involved. This will hamper counterterrorism efforts. The United States is also inclined to act unilaterally. Dependence upon foreign sources for intelligence would make this impossible. But the United States cannot decline all foreign support. The radical Islamic groups most likely involved -- although organized into a loose network - - act in concert. Fighting them will require cooperation. Washington needs the intelligence capabilities of other nations. For example, India, Israel and Russia can provide significant human intelligence sources and foreign language skills. Both are vital to exposing the terrorist network involved in the recent attacks. Other nations can also provide intelligence on terrorism networks within their own countries, as well as the groups' sources of funding, likely sponsors, and intelligence-gathering and other capabilities. Many of these nations have a wealth of information on counterterrorism methodology and decades of experience fighting militant groups. These countries and others -- especially cooperative moderate Arab nations -- can help U.S. intelligence officials penetrate countries where spying is normally difficult. From a logistical and technical perspective, such cooperation could give Washington a competitive advantage for a war in which intelligence will be the most valuable weapon. But accepting such assistance comes with a price. The trap is simple: By pinpointing groups like Palestinians and Chechens, nations such as Israel and Russia could seek to manipulate the U.S. response in order to combat their own enemies. Israel immediately offered intelligence and military assistance to the United States following the Sept. 11 attacks. Israel is eager for the United States to identify a common enemy and to gain U.S. support in its own problem with Palestinian militants. Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, in conversations with U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, compared Palestinian Authority leader Yasser Arafat to Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden -- the United States' prime suspect, Israeli radio reported Sept. 13. Collaborating with Israel could put the United States in a difficult position. Already, the attacks in the United States have granted Israel virtual carte blanche in dealing with suspected Palestinian militants. Sharing intelligence about insurgent groups in the Middle East with Washington will once again position Israel as an indispensable U.S. ally, ensuring continued support in its war against the Palestinians and possibly future conflicts with Arab neighbors. Many other nations could benefit in the same way. For example, India has already offered to help the
[NSP] For the arrogance of power America now pays a terrible price By JONATHAN
For the arrogance of power America now pays a terrible price By JONATHAN POWER September 12, 2001 LONDON - The American nation appears not only immensely distressed and angry about the bombings but surprised too. It cannot understand why anyone should be moved by such hatred against it and, inured from the rest of us by the isolationism of most of its political representatives and its media, it has little idea of the currents swirling against it. An event of this magnitude was not only unimagined, it was unimaginable. Yet long before George Bush became president with his forceful in-your-face, take-it-or-leave-it attitude to the world outside on issues as diverse as global warming and anti-missile defences, America has been turning in on itself, to the point of self-destructiveness. William Pfaff, the astute American commentator, wrote recently that America is a dangerous nation while remaining a righteous one and America's pre-eminent foreign policy observer, George Kennan, ambassador to the Soviet Union during Stalin's time, wrote quite a few years ago, I do not think that the United States civilization of these last 40-50 years is a successful civilization. I think this country is destined to succumb to failures which cannot be other than tragic and enormous in their scope. And later added that for Americans to see ourselves as the centre of political enlightenment and teachers to a great part of the rest of the world [is] unthought-through, vainglorious and undesirable. It would be misunderstanding human nature to believe that most Americans want to hear such thoughts played back to them on their day of grief, victims of an evil deed that compares with the worst of the blood-stained twentieth century. Yet they have to know that action produces reaction and not for nothing is anti-American resentment on the increase all over the world, not least in Europe where there is some astonishment at the way the new American administration has ploughed ahead with its self-interested agenda as if no one else has a legitimate opinion or could perhaps view the same situation in a different light. Foreign observers do not miss the reports that come out of Pentagon think tanks of America's need to use this special moment after the defeat of European communism and the break up of the Soviet Union to make sure that America is militarily superior the world over, and that no one, not even its closest allies, should be in a position to tell it what to do. The U.S. began the new millennium as the most heavily militarised nation on earth. It is the U.S., which poses the military threat to others. At the outbreak of the Second World War the U.S. army was only 174,000 men. Today it has 1.4 million in its standing army and a ready reserve and National Guard numbering 2.5 million. Despite the end of the Cold War, under President Bill Clinton the U.S. made only a paltry effort to wind down the nuclear arsenals of the superpowers, and instead provocatively insisted on expanding Nato close to Russia's borders. The Bush administration with its declared ambition to abandon the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, solemnly signed by Richard Nixon and Leonid Brezhnev, seems unconcerned that this will set in motion events that will unwind hard won international norms on ending nuclear testing and on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, even hinting that it will understand if China has to increase its nuclear forces or test new nuclear weapons. I have talked to a range of ordinary Europeans in the last 24 hours and they all say, in the face of the earnest shoulder-to-shoulder rhetoric of their leaders, that America has got itself into this hole by its own disregard for what others
[NSP] The Chickens Come Home to Roost by John Keller
Title: Message dd The Chickens Come Home to Roost by John Keller Im watching the dust from the World Trade Center buildings settle and the Pentagon burn, while the White House is evacuated. The FAA has grounded all flights, as it now appears that three domestic commercial airliners were hijacked and crashed into these buildings, and possibly one other plane crashed before finding its target. What else could have happened but a well organized terrorist attack? From here the script is set. The pundits on TV have already mentioned Osama bin Laden. Retired General Wesley Clark maneuvered into his favorite position, full frontal camera, and announced that only Ossama bin Laden had the resources to co-ordinate such an attack. Newt Gingrich repeated basically the same thing. George Bush has promised that the government will hunt the terrorists down and punish them. "Terrorism against our nation will not stand." Huh? Sadly, terrorism already did stand, the World Trade Centers did not, and the terrorists most directly responsible are already dead. Back to the TV where the anchor goes on about the previous bombing of the World Trade Centers, the bombing of the USS Cole, Oklahoma City, and the bombing of our African Embassies. Tomorrow the calls for a national day of mourning will begin. Somewhere in this formula of terrorism, mourning, Tomahawk-revenge, repeat, the news-media are failing to connect the dots. Where and why did the cycle begin? Why do people hate the United States enough to come here and try to wreck the maximum amount of death and destruction possible? Why, why, why? Terrorism gets its name from the type of attack designed to generate the maximum amount of terror. The terrorists responsible for these attacks understood psychology well, and used it to maximum advantage as they planned their attack. They also had a reason for choosing the targets they did. Lets start with the targets, The World Trade Center Towers and the Pentagon. The World Trade Centers, besides the Statue of Liberty and the Empire State Building were two of the most widely recognized buildings in New York. They stood at the edge of the financial district, right on Wall Street. They were the two largest symbols of American global corporatism in New York City. They were also crammed full of people, with approximately 50,000 civilians working in the two every day. The terrorist messages, intentional or not, are fivefold. First, civilians are not safe; they are fair game. Second, a highly secure building in the middle of Americas financial capital is not safe; therefore, no office building in any city is safe. The result: office buildings in New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Boston, Washington, and other cities emptied within hours of the attacks. The UN and all government buildings in Washington were evacuated. Third, the airlines are not safe. The terrorists hijacked at least 4 planes, from four different airports, and two different airlines. Fourth, the terrorists attacked the symbol of International finance. Why? Fifth, the United States military is despised by whoever did this. The method of attack, and the timing tells us these terrorists had coldly calculated how to cause the greatest amount of grief for America. The flights were all domestic flights. The departure and arrival cities for the flights may have been only coincidental to the terrorist goal of hijacking the largest jets, but I dont think this was the case. Its easier to study a single airport for security weaknesses, get your people hired on the inside, and get weapons through, than it is to hijack planes from Boston, Washington, and Newark. That means security at three separate major airports was compromised. With end route cities in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Newark, Washington, and Boston, people across the entire U.S. have lost loved ones as a result of these attacks. As of this
[NSP] Bin Ladin's activities exposed in New York trial
Title: Message
Bin Ladin's activities exposed in New York
trialBy A BrownfeldIn February, US federal prosecutors opened their long-awaited terrorism
case against four of Usama bin Ladin's alleged followers with a personal account
by Jamal Ahmad al-Fadl, a Bin Ladin confidante turned FBI informant.
Al-Fadl was the first person called in the trial of four men charged
with participating in a terrorism conspiracy led by Bin Ladin, which prosecutors
say included the 1998 bombings of the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
The blasts killed 224 people and wounded thousands. For the last five years,
al-Fadl has been under the protection of the US government in an undisclosed
location after pleading guilty to a terrorism charge at a secret hearing in
federal court in Manhattan.Al-Fadl's testimony did not deal with the
embassy bombings, which occurred two years after he left the group. But
prosecutors are expected to use his account of the early years in Bin Ladin's
group to show how the terrorism conspiracy evolved.Turncoat reveals
scale of operationsIn his testimony, al-Fadl told the jury he had worked
closely with Bin Laden in Khartoum, and helped manage his payroll. This gave him
access to files on each member of Bin Laden's group, which showed their salaries
and aliases. He also described Bin Ladin's global banking network, naming
institutions in Sudan, Malaysia, Britain, Hong Kong and Dubai, where Bin Laden
and his group kept money.He also detailed Bin Ladin's agricultural,
construction, transportation and investment companies in Sudan, which
prosecutors have said are fronts for his terrorist activities.After
American troops went to Somalia in 1993, according to al-Fadl, Bin Ladin said at
a meeting of several dozen people: "The snake is America and we have to stop
what are they doing. We have to cut the head of the snake."Al-Fadl
described disputes within Bin Ladin's group, al-Qa'ida ('The Base'), about the
number of Egyptians among its leaders and the group's pay scale the. He
described the roots of Bin Ladin's enmity towards the US for its role in
Somalia, and the group's co-operation with other terrorist organisations, like
the Iranian backed Hizbullah.Anti-state, sponsored
terrorismAccording to al-Fadl, Bin Ladin sent fighters to Chechnya at a
cost of about US$1,500 per person, paid through a local relief organisation.
Al-Fadl said he carried money on behalf of Bin Ladin to leaders of other jihad
groups, including $100,000 to one in Eritrea.His journey into a position of
confidence with Bin Ladin and his group had its roots, al-Fadl noted, in
Brooklyn where he worked at the Al Farooq Mosque, helping to raise money and
recruit fighters for the American-backed mujahidin in the war against the Soviet
Union in Afghanistan in 1980s.Under questioning by the prosecutor,
Patrick J Fitzgerald, al-Fadl offered a look at a network of guest houses and
military training camps used by the Bin Ladin group. He said he was present at a
meeting in Peshawar where Sudanese officials visited Bin Ladin and promised to
help his group if it moved to Sudan. Al-Fadl was sent to Khartoum on a kind of
scouting mission. After Bin Ladin moved his group to Sudan in 1991, al-Fadl
testified, its activities were greatly aided by Sudanese
intelligence.Bin Ladin, reported al-Fadl, was surrounded by a group of
associates who participated on a ruling council, and ran committees on military,
business and other matters. He said Bin Ladin and his associates, citing the US
participation in the Persian Gulf War, began to issue fatwas, or religious
edicts, to his group, which sanctioned actions against US interests. "We can't
let the American Army in our area," al-Fadl quoted Bin Ladin as saying. "We have
to do something. We have to fight them."He cited the religious
justification for the killing of civilians of one of Bin Ladin advisers, Mahmud
Salim, who offered. "If good person, they go to paradise," he quoted Salim as
saying. "If bad person, they go to hell." Salim is in custody in New York and is
awaiting a future trial.While al-Fadl's testimony has given the New York
federal jury a basic grasp of Bin Ladin's operations, the fact is that he left
the group two years before the embassy bombings. The trial defendants, two of
whom face a possible death sentence, can expect to hear more damaging
accusations from Ali Mohammed, the Egyptian born, naturalised US citizen who
signed on with Bin Ladin shortly after his discharge from the US Army in 1989.
Once an instructor in Middle East warfare at Fort Braff, Mohammed shifted his
teaching talents to the paramilitary operations of al-Qa'ida. He trained Bin
Ladin's personal security guards and later helped set up the cell in Nairobi
that eventually carried out the bombing. He has already pleaded guilty to
terrorism conspiracy for his role.The US hopes that the compelling
evidence of al-Fadl and Mohammed will convict the four men
[NSP] Say No to the war
Say No to the war ! Against misery you do not fight with bombardments by Michel Collon Nato made a very dangerous decision yesterday 12. Applying its article 5, it decided that all allied countries have to be solidair with the governement of Washington. Since Bush considers United States at war , it means we are also considered at war . This represents great dangers for the civil rights (demonstration, expression), this is a preparation of wars. Kissinger now calls for a long term war, in fact against every country of the thirld world too independent presented as a war for the civilisation. Everybody (even the IMF) knows that misery in the world is the ground where terrorism can florish and get support because of the frustration of oppressed Arabic masses. Everybody knows that with half of the US military budget you could suppress hunger in the world. Everybody knows you do not fight against misery with bombardments. The Prime minister of my country, after having condemned and attacked the anti-globalisation movement, now follows the Nato and declares : We are all Americans . Yes, I feel an American as all those poor innocent civilians, targets of a blind criminal act. But I do not feel American like George Bush nor an American like the bilionaire auctioneers of Monsanto, Esso and General Motors. And I do not feel American like Madeleine Albright who demanded, in 1997 already, that Nato would become the Cop of the World, active from Middle East to Central Africa . This was since long the real goal of Washington, it has nothing to do with reacting to the suffering of innocent victims. It has all to do with controlling the strategic areas, the strategic roads to oil. It is not a coincidence if Washington supported Islamic terrorists in Bosnia and in Kosovo to break up Yugoslavia and control the Western road to the oil of central Asia. It is not a coincidence if Washington provided arms to the Islamic militias (including supporters of Ben Laden) in Chechenya in order to destabilize Russia and impose military bases in the Caucasus. It is not a coincidence if Washington always tried to get control on Afghanistan (which is the Southern road to the same oil and gas fields - see the different maps in my book Monopoly, and also the quotation of Albright). Everybody knows the CIA created, armed and protected Ben Laden to break up the USSR. Recently, the German Spiegel wrote that German secret services and ministers knew perfectly well Washington was arming and protecting the KLA terrorists attacking and killing Macedonians. Nevertheless all Western powers now follow Washington in this war strategy ! We are now told this is a new Pearl Harbor. Let us remember that US leaders knew that Pearl Harbor was about to be attacked and did not try to stop it. Now agressions and bombardments maybe against several countries are prepared while nothing is clear about the complete passivity of the FBI and the CIA. We cannot accept that the US government prepares war, eluding its own responsibility after so many provocations against Arabic and other people of the world. This is a manipulation of the sufferings of the US victims. This will only provoke a lot of sufferings for innocent victims in the ThirdWorld and also increase the risk of terrorist attacks in our countries. Washington did already bombard 23 countries and after a certain time it was discovered its media had lied to justify it. Let us say not to the war ! Against misery, you do not fight with bombardments. -- Fin du message transfr NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Cartoon for September 13, 2001
Title: Message Cartoon for September 13, 2001 Problems? Suggestions? Let us hear from you.Copyright The Sacramento Bee NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^ babin_20010913.gif Description: GIF image
[NSP] RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE ON AMERICAN TRAGEDY
Trud No. 186 September 13, 2001 [translation from RIA Novosti for personal use only] RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE ON AMERICAN TRAGEDY By Nikolai DOLGOPOLOV Colonel-General Sergei LEBEDEV, Director of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service, usually does not comment on world events - for understandable reasons. But he made an exception this time. The tragic events in New York and Washington confirmed the global nature of the threat of terrorism and the need to pool efforts to combat it, Lebedev said. The Foreign Intelligence Service is maintaining close contacts with the secret services of the USA and partners from West European, Middle and Near Eastern countries. The main goal of these contacts is to expose and prevent potential terrorist acts. The opinion of Major-General of intelligence Yuri DROZDOV, the founding father of the legendary Vympel group, which is successfully fighting terrorists of all stripes, carries special weight today. Besides, the general knows very well about the methods of operation of the US secret services, because he had worked in the USA for a long time. Question: How could this happen in the USA, whose security services are among the world's best? Answer: We can assume that the adversary was perfectly aware of the typically American weaknesses. They exploited them and provoked an international catastrophe. Question: But who could organise and orchestrate such unprecedented slaughter so skilfully? Answer: I can tell you one thing. US manuals, which I know well, say that a group of seven trained people can disrupt the normal operation of human and industrial mass of up to half a million people. Question: But if even manuals stipulate the notion of real danger, why did the secret services fail? Answer: The tragedy confirmed that the secret services, created for the express purpose of ensuring security, did not work well enough. This is a weakness. But the main thing is that arrogance in the operation of secret services and neglect of the adversary always result in major miscalculations. Question: The US intelligence gets 30 billion dollars a year, but it is said the USA is enamoured with technical, in particular satellite, types of intelligence. Answer: You know, certain documents have appeared that point in the opposite direction. The recruitment of agents will remain the top priority of intelligence. But the powerful technical facilities should have ensured maximum protection from potential terrorist acts. Alas... Question: Who could order the shattering tragedy? Answer: This is not the time for hasty conclusions. It is apparent that the action was carefully coordinated and prepared, with the goals and methods of attaining them clearly defined and orchestrated. I would not like to say this about bandits, but I will have to. They acted highly professionally. And their action was prepared for a very long time. Question: Can one forecast the direction of the terrorists' strike and forestall them? Answer: This is concerned with a package of problems, with a great number of components. The notion of the protection of territory. The migration laws. The monitoring of people's movement. Proceeding from American documents concerned with these problems, one can assume that they include similar miscalculations and failures. Take the evaluation of the global situation. Are their forecasts of crises, big and small wars and regional clashes correct? Of what is happening and what can happen on our territory? If they evaluate the situation from a certain angle, they themselves are involved to a degree in the developments. The American tragedy calls for an in-depth political, specialised analysis so that, God forbid, they would not have to say next time: Guys, you flopped again. In conclusion I would like to offer my condolences and the condolences of my colleagues for the dead and injured. NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] Orient Express
Left.ru __ Orient Express By Israel Shamir Like the Four Riders of the Apocalypse, the unknown kamikaze rode their giant crafts into the two visible symbols of American world domination, Wall Street and the Pentagon. They vanished in flames and smoke, and we do not yet know who they were. They could be practically anybody: American Nationalists, American Communists, American Fundamentalist Christians, American Anarchists, anybody who rejects the twin gods of the dollar and the M-16, who hates the stock market and interventions overseas, who dreams of America for Americans, who does not want to support the drive for world domination. They could be Native Americans returning to Manhattan, or Afro-Americans who still have not received compensation for slavery. They could be foreigners of practically any extraction, as Wall Street and the Pentagon ruined many lives of people all over the globe. Germans can remember the fiery holocaust of Dresden with its hundreds of thousands of peaceful refugees incinerated by the US Air Force. Japanese will not forget the nuclear holocaust of Hiroshima. The Arab world still feels the creeping holocaust of Iraq and Palestine. Russians and East Europeans feel the shame of Belgrade avenged. Latin Americans think of American invasions of Panama and Granada, of destroyed Nicaragua and defoliated Colombia. Asians count their dead of Vietnam war, Cambodia bombings, Laos CIA operations in millions. Even a pro-American, Russian TV broadcaster could not refrain from saying, 'now Americans begin to understand the feelings of Baghdad and Belgrade'. The Riders could be anybody who lost his house to the bank, who was squeezed from his work and made permanently unemployed, who was declared an Untermensch by the new Herrenvolk. They could be Russians, Malaysians, Indonesians, Pakistanis, Congolese, as their economy was destroyed by Wall Street and the Pentagon. They could be anybody, and they are everybody. Their identity is quite irrelevant, but the Jews already decided: it has to be Arabs. One would think, after Oklahoma, we should become less hasty with our conclusions. But my countrymen, Israeli politicians are impatient folk. The flames in Manhattan did not die out yet, they started political profit taking. Mr Ehud Barak came live on BBC, and said 'Arafat' within three minutes flat. On CNN, his twin Bibi Natanyahu appropriated the blame to Arabs, Muslims, Palestinians. Shimon Peres, an old wizened wizard, spoke against suicide as a psychiatric adviser, reminding his audience of Palestinian attacks. He looked worried: it is hard to enslave people who are not afraid to die. This old killer of Kana even mentioned Gospels. Density of Israelis on the air approached the saturation point. They insinuated and incited, pushing their shopping list into a chalk-white face of shell-shocked America: please, destroy Iran! And Iraq! And Libya, plees! The first twenty four hours of maximal exposure were utilised by the Jewish propaganda machine to its utmost. Not a single fact was yet known, but racist anti-Arab slurs became a commonplace. While we Jews quite reasonably object to any reference to the Jewishness of a bad guy, we really do not mind producing revolting racist drivel of our own. A good Jewish-American activist, James Jordan, warned in al-Awda: Making broad, all-inclusive statements and insinuations about Jews completely marginalizes and discredits your organization. But how come the endless stream of 'broad, all-inclusive statements and insinuations', about 'the Arabs' did not 'completely marginalized and discredited' the Jewish organisations and media who practice it? Apparently, it is a Jewish right to decide who will be marginalized in America and who will not. The connection was in the minds. The American Jewish supremacists want to turn all the world into Palestine, where the natives will enjoy harsh local rule and limited local rights, while the master race will have a rather different level of life. Israel is just a small-scale model of their new brave world of globalisation. As there were no hard facts against Palestinians, the Israelis made their damnedest from the scenes of joy shot in East Jerusalem. It is a rather weak point, and I'll tell you why. In Agatha Christie's Murder on the Orient Express, her favourite detective M. Poireau encounters an unusual complication: all passengers on board the train have had a good reason to bump off the unpleasant old lady. My dear American friends, your leaders placed your great country into the old lady's shoes. Israelis used the event to the max. They even killed some ten Palestinians and destroyed five Goyiish houses in Jerusalem. The reports were rather gleeful, in the style 'we told you', and the experts of Israeli TV concluded by one o'clock, the attack 'was good for the Jews'. Why? It would strengthen American support of
[NSP] U.S. Military Retaliation Will Be 'Sustained'
Title: Message U.S. Military Retaliation Will Be 'Sustained' AP Thursday, September 13, 2001 Respond to Editor Email this Article The United States will respond to the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington with a sustained military campaign, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said Thursday, and Secretary of State Colin Powell said in the "last 24 hours we've been building our coalition" to do so. "It's going to unfold over time," Wolfowitz told reporters at the Pentagon. "One thing that is clear is you don't do it with just a single military strike, no matter how dramatic." When asked what U.S. military strikes might target, Wolfowitz answered "it will be a campaign, not a single action. And we're going to keep after these people and the people who support them until this stops." Powell, speaking to reporters at the State Department, said that "we will continue a global assault against terrorism," however he admitted that "we haven't publicly identified the perpetrator" of Tuesday's attacks. He said, "We're going to have a responsible talk with the Pakistani government" because "if you look at the list of [possible suspects] it is prudent to have talks in that region." Asked whether he was referring to Usama bin Laden, the Saudi expatriate who runs a terrorist network from Afghanistan, Powellsaid "yes." A Pakistani intelligence source said Thursday that bin Laden changed locations within Afghanistan just minutes after reports of the attacks. Powell described Pakistan as a friend of the United States, but also said the relationship has had its "ups and downs." In Islamabad, Pakistan's leader has pledged "unstinted cooperation." Wolfowitz said a portion of the $20 billion in emergency funds President Bush has asked Congress to approve will be used to strengthen U.S. military readiness for the fight against terrorism. He could not specify how much. "A significant piece of this is going to be used to bring our armed forces to the highest level of preparedness to do whatever the president may ask them to do," he said. Wolfowitz would not discuss specific military options. "The president has a whole range of options in front of him," he said. Another portion of the extra money sought by the president would pay for air patrols that have been flying over major American cities since the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. "There are costs already incurred with the combat air patrols that have been maintained over a significant number of American cities, including Washington," he said. "The costs mount rapidly and they will mount more rapidly as this campaign develops." Congress Continues Action, Deliberation Meanwhile, lawmakers continue tomull issuing a declaration of war.There is some uncertainty asagainst whom the declaration would be made.Some advocates of a declaration have suggested an open-ended declaration would suffice, to reveal the seriousness with which the Congress and the administration view the situation. Others have suggested a declaration against Usama Bin Laden and his acolytes and a declaration against those statesthat harbor and assist terrorists, including Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, the Palestinian Authority, Syria, and others. Further, congressional leaders said they intended to begin pushing an emergency anti-terrorism package through Congress on Thursday with a price tag that could exceed $20 billion. They said they also wanted quick approval this week of a separate measure stating Congress' support for the use of force by Bush against the terrorists who crashed airliners into the landmarks. Top lawmakers and White House officials were hoping to nail down final details of both bills by late Thursday. Bush sent House Speaker Dennis Hastert a formal request Thursday for $20 billion and suggested he could request more money. Quick passage "will send a powerful signal of unity to our fellow Americans and to the world," Bush said. "If additional resources are necessary, I will forward another request for additional funding," he said. Background documents say the money is needed to provide assistance to victims and address other consequences of the attack, including "support to counter, investigate or prosecute" terrorism and increase money for transportation. Emerging from a meeting of Congress' top Democrats and Republicans, Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., told reporters: "There is a unanimous understanding that whatever we do this week is a very minimal down payment to what will be required and what we will do in the days and weeks ahead." House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, said $20 billion was "very clearly designed to fund the initial response to this horrible act." Among the final details to be worked out on the spending bill were the leeway Bush would have to disperse the money to specific programs without congressional approval. The
[NSP] US to Put $20 Billion 'Downpayment' on Fighting Terrorism
Title: Message US to Put $20 Billion Downpayment on Fighting Terrorism By Kim Burger, JDW Staff Reporter Washington DC The US Congress is expected as early as 13 September to approve $20 billion in emergency funding to help the US respond to terrorist attacks that killed thousands.Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said the funding requested by President George Bush would help ready US armed forces for a possible retaliatory strike, but stated it would be just a downpayment towards a broad campaign against terrorism. One thing, its clear, is that you dont do it with just a single military strike, you dont do it with just military forces alone. You do it with the full resources of the US government. It will be a campaign, not a single action, Wolfowitz said 13 September.$20 billion is a lot of money, but for this country it is just a downpayment.The supplemental funding request would cover some costs of the massive search and recovery efforts under way at the site of terrorist attacks this week at the World Trade Center twin towers in New York City and the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. The funds will also pay other costs including rebuilding the Pentagon and to support combat air patrols of US skies. A significant piece of the total will also go toward bringing the military to the highest level of preparedness to act as ordered by the president, Wolfowitz said. The money would fund the costs of readying fuel and other logistics needs, operational costs, force protection measures and intelligence.Wolfowitz said he anticipates Congress also will be supportive of increasing funding as needed in Fiscal Year 2002, which is the subject of spending bills presently under consideration. Prior to the attacks, the Department of Defense was heavily engaged in a Quadrennial Defense Review of future requirements. But Wolfowitz said while future needs may not change, there also will be some huge requirements to build up our military for the next year.The fight against terrorism must be broad to root out the support systems and sanctuaries that states and others may be providing, Wolfowitz said. He said he expects the US will seek international assistance in this mission from its allies, Russia, as well as nations in the Middle East and Persian Gulf region that have expressed support. NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[NSP] SERGEI SNEGOV: WHERE IS THE DEMOCRACY GONE?
Title: Message SERGEI SNEGOV: WHERE IS THE DEMOCRACY GONE? With all respect to the feelings of the American people: sometimes the materials and reports of mass media are really shocking. Some shouts of the Americans on the net are just disgusting. It was a couple of days ago when you blamed Russia for the inhuman policy in Chechnya, you criticized Moscow because the militia men were checking peoples documents everywhere in the streets. You called the Chechens separatists and had meetings with emissaries of the independent republic at the Department of State. You bombed Yugoslavia which was running the policy of genocide in Kosovo. Now the rebels of Kosovo were stabbing the peacemakers in their motherland and seizing Macedonia. So now you are ready to execute the Palestinians without any trial or investigation. You are calling upon everyone just to destroy those scoundrels, to kill everyone, women and children, a bullet in the head, to tear them into pieces, to exterminate them. Are you ready for genocide being the protectors of the innocent and the oppressed? I wish our government could start the military operation as soon as possible. I would personally remove Afghanistan from the Earth, right on the night of that day, without even landing there. I would then start the overnight incursion in Palestine not leaving anyone alive there - either women or children. Any Arab country which would let out a squeak will lose its capital the same day. NATO would announce its support to Americas reaction but the opinions of other countries that are dependent on Americas economic assistance are not interesting to me. This is an opinion from one of our readers from New York. And here is a text which has just been sent by the Interfax news agency: Dozens of attacks on the Moslems were registered in the USA and in Canada after the acts of terrorism which happened this Tuesday. Police stopped 300 people which were trying to arrange a demonstration near the mosque. Unknown people threw a bomb in the center where the people of the Arab community gathered this happened in Chicago as well. A drunk 75-year-old man was persistently following a woman from Pakistan threatening to kill her for destruction of his country. Spokesmen for Kuwaits embassy in the USA said the Kuwaits nationals who attended American schools were insulted. How much is left for the first step of Americas execution? One hour, two, three? If such material which is now published by The New York Times had appeared on the pages of some Russian papers, there would have been warnings following from the State Committee for Press; licences could be withdrawn too. But it is not a matter of sanctions. There was no material of this kind in the Russian press which unfortunately can not be said about the American media. Unknown terrorists destroyed the myth about democracy and tolerance, the myth about the only multi-national country in the world in which there was no nationalism or chauvinism. Show your true colors. Sergei Snegov PRAVDa.Ru NSP Lista isprobava demokratiju u praksi ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrBE8.bVKZIq Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: archive@jab.org T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
