Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
(Apologies for replying to an old thread, I'm reading old email.) For some of, perhaps the older ones, the word sucks is simply a shortened form of sucks dick. So it has undesirable sexual connotations. On 2010-10-29 09:53, M.C.S. wrote: Well, I still like the current tagline. I give a **it on business compatible phrases. Stripes IS stripey and it REALLY does not suck, so I prefer staying with it :-)) Regards, Marcus -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- 0x2B | ~0x2b -- Hamlet -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
I love that :)) Den 01/11/2010 21.57 skrev Grzegorz Krugły g...@karko.net: Stripes - just what you're looking for. -- Nokia and ATT prese... -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
Stripes - just what you're looking for. -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
When I used Stripes for the first time, my initial thought was... This is the missing thing I've been looking for. Every Java-based web framework I looked at either had a piece missing or had too much things that I didn't need. I'm not the best tag-line person, but I propose something that indicates that Stripes is the missing piece... or perhaps that Stripes is exactly what someone needs... or something along those lines. -- Rick 2010/10/29 Søren Pedersen specons...@gmail.com I keep thinking of the headline for Grails The search is over. At one point saying look no further and at another pointing to the fact that people have been for the holy grail for thousands of years. That's a good one. It would be cool if we hit something with more than one dimension :) Den 28/10/2010 23.47 skrev Joel Weight digitalj...@gmail.com: Along that vein, you could do something like Stripes: simply rich. Joel On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos nikol...@brightminds.org wrote: Many ... -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
Or Stripes - the one to rule them all ;-) -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
or maybe: Stripes: What's needed, nothing more. On Oct 29, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind wrote: On 29-10-2010 at 09:11, Rick Grashel wrote: When I used Stripes for the first time, my initial thought was... This is the missing thing I've been looking for. Every Java-based web framework I looked at either had a piece missing or had too much things that I didn't need. I'm not the best tag-line person, but I propose something that indicates that Stripes is the missing piece... or perhaps that Stripes is exactly what someone needs... or something along those lines. You mean: Stripes: this missing piece in any webapp. Or maybe: Stripes: the piece to connect it all together. Oscar -- ,-_ /() ) Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind http://www.xs4all.nl/~kindop/ (__ ( =/ () A half truth is a whole lie. -- Yiddish Proverb -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
Souvenirs, souvenirs... To be honest I someimes miss those endless threads on TSS, was quite funny over there at the time. Now it's just advertisement and ohter bullshit. Cheers Remi - and Rolf... 2010/10/28 Freddy Daoud xf2...@fastmail.fm On the source forge page of Stripes I see the text: Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck I don't know what 'stripey' is, but I think 'suck' is really inappropriate language for a serious product as The Stripes Framework... http://sourceforge.net/projects/stripes/ Back in 2005, TheServerSide was the forum for many a web framework animated flame war. People were finally realizing that Struts was asking way too much work from the developer and doing way too little work for the developer in return--others knew it all along-- and Tim Fennell's intelligent and insightful comments were signed with a link to Stripes and the caption: Because web development doesn't have to suck. This caught my eye because it was a bold statement. Now, 2010 closing out, TSS is still the (a) site for animated flame wars, Struts has been replaced by JSF which is just as bad, but it takes a Spring vs Java EE thread; just your run-of-the-mill here's my new framework post doesn't make people waste their time anymore. Stripes has matured and perhaps, Karen, you are right, we shouldn't use 'suck' in our tagline. So, after all the brou-ha-ha-ha-ha of getting Stripes back into action, let's hear suggestions for a new, catchy, witty, smart, attractive tagline. Don't ask for mine, I've already used it for a book title ;) Cheers, Freddy -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
On 27-10-2010 at 21:27, Freddy Daoud wrote: So, after all the brou-ha-ha-ha-ha of getting Stripes back into action, let's hear suggestions for a new, catchy, witty, smart, attractive tagline. Don't ask for mine, I've already used it for a book title ;) One option: Stripes... the skidmarks I leave because this framework isn't a straitjacket. (IMHO not really 'mature' though) Another option: Stripes: the best way to visualize rapid development. Oscar -- ,-_ Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind http://www.xs4all.nl/~kindop/ /() ) (__ ( Progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. =/ () -- Robert Heinlein signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
What about: Stripes - because it's simple Den 28/10/2010 22.14 skrev Nikolaos Giannopoulos nikol...@brightminds.org : On a more serious note... I agree with Karen. In fact... IMO its always better in marketing to differentiate yourself (and speak to your audience) with what you do well... How about something like: Stripes: The robust and intuitive Java web framework --Nikolaos 2010/10/28 Freddy Daoud xf2...@fastmail.fm mailto:xf2...@fastmail.fm On the source forge page of Stripes I see the text: Source forge descript... mailto:Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users --... -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
I like it. On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Søren Pedersen wrote: What about: Stripes - because it's simple Den 28/10/2010 22.14 skrev Nikolaos Giannopoulos nikol...@brightminds.org: On a more serious note... I agree with Karen. In fact... IMO its always better in marketing to differentiate yourself (and speak to your audience) with what you do well... How about something like: Stripes: The robust and intuitive Java web framework --Nikolaos 2010/10/28 Freddy Daoud xf2...@fastmail.fm mailto:xf2...@fastmail.fm On the source forge page of Stripes I see the text: Source forge descript... mailto:Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users --... -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
the other thing that people keep talking about is how Stripes is (or nearly is) feature complete. So how about: Stripes - simple complete. On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Søren Pedersen wrote: What about: Stripes - because it's simple Den 28/10/2010 22.14 skrev Nikolaos Giannopoulos nikol...@brightminds.org: On a more serious note... I agree with Karen. In fact... IMO its always better in marketing to differentiate yourself (and speak to your audience) with what you do well... How about something like: Stripes: The robust and intuitive Java web framework --Nikolaos 2010/10/28 Freddy Daoud xf2...@fastmail.fm mailto:xf2...@fastmail.fm On the source forge page of Stripes I see the text: Source forge descript... mailto:Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users --... -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
Many take from the word simple alone to imply not feature rich. So adding some sort of qualifier is great but I am not sure that complete is the word. Nothing in software is ever complete unfortunately. (Not trying to start a flame war with those that believe Stripes is complete... I just don't think it is complete... heavily feature rich - sure... complete - No - IMHO). Just my 2cents... --Nikolaos Joaquin Valdez wrote: I like it! On Oct 28, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Evan Leonard wrote: the other thing that people keep talking about is how Stripes is (or nearly is) feature complete. So how about: Stripes - simple complete. On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Søren Pedersen wrote: What about: Stripes - because it's simple Den 28/10/2010 22.14 skrev Nikolaos Giannopoulos nikol...@brightminds.org mailto:nikol...@brightminds.org: On a more serious note... I agree with Karen. In fact... IMO its always better in marketing to differentiate yourself (and speak to your audience) with what you do well... How about something like: Stripes: The robust and intuitive Java web framework --Nikolaos 2010/10/28 Freddy Daoud xf2...@fastmail.fm mailto:xf2...@fastmail.fm mailto:xf2...@fastmail.fm mailto:xf2...@fastmail.fm On the source forge page of Stripes I see the text: Source forge descript... mailto:Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users --... -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users Joaquin Valdez joaquinfval...@gmail.com mailto:joaquinfval...@gmail.com -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
Along that vein, you could do something like Stripes: simply rich. Joel On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos nikol...@brightminds.org wrote: Many take from the word simple alone to imply not feature rich. So adding some sort of qualifier is great but I am not sure that complete is the word. Nothing in software is ever complete unfortunately. (Not trying to start a flame war with those that believe Stripes is complete... I just don't think it is complete... heavily feature rich - sure... complete - No - IMHO). Just my 2cents... --Nikolaos -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
Re: [Stripes-users] Source forge description: It's stripey and it doesn't suck
I keep thinking of the headline for Grails The search is over. At one point saying look no further and at another pointing to the fact that people have been for the holy grail for thousands of years. That's a good one. It would be cool if we hit something with more than one dimension :) Den 28/10/2010 23.47 skrev Joel Weight digitalj...@gmail.com: Along that vein, you could do something like Stripes: simply rich. Joel On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos nikol...@brightminds.org wrote: Many ... -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev___ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
