[RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project
The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back. The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting. In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to join the PMC at a later time. If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now. -- Martin Cooper On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: > Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted > and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2], > along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache > top-level project (TLP). > > The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In > Craig's words, "The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our > own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally > recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta)." In > practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done. > > As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have > already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James, > Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in > favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly > oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta. > > If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond > to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your > concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone > was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up. > > The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could > reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not > put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would > only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0. > > The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank. > Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this > capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So, > please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache > Struts. > > Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice > President. > > -- > Martin Cooper > > [1] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&[EMAIL > PROTECTED]&searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22&defaultField=subject&Search=Search > [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html > [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html > [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project
Ooops, just missed it. :) No worries. Due to life, I've been conspicuous in my absence, and probably wouldn't be a ripple in the PMC decision making anyways. Just as long as I can maintain commit status to support nested tag coders I'm happy. :) If things change and I get more play time, then I'll knock on the PMC door as required. Cheers, Arron. > The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC > members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have > attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back. > > The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose > to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting. > In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove > their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to > join the PMC at a later time. > > If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now. > > -- > Martin Cooper > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted > > and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2], > > along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache > > top-level project (TLP). > > > > The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In > > Craig's words, "The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our > > own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally > > recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta)." In > > practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done. > > > > As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have > > already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James, > > Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in > > favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly > > oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta. > > > > If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond > > to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your > > concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone > > was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up. > > > > The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could > > reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not > > put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would > > only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0. > > > > The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank. > > Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this > > capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So, > > please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache > > Struts. > > > > Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice > > President. > > > > -- > > Martin Cooper > > > > [1] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&[EMAIL PROTECTED]&searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22&defaultField=subject&Search=Search > > [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html > > [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html > > [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project
Since Craig indicated his preference NOT to be VP, how does this impact this proposal ? -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Arron Bates wrote: > Ooops, just missed it. :) Not at all. I won't be sending the proposal to the board until the weekend, so now that you've responded, you're in. :-) -- Martin Cooper > No worries. Due to life, I've been conspicuous in my absence, and probably > wouldn't be a ripple in the PMC decision making anyways. Just as long as I can > maintain commit status to support nested tag coders I'm happy. :) > > If things change and I get more play time, then I'll knock on the PMC door as > required. > > > Cheers, > > Arron. > > > > > The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC > > members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have > > attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back. > > > > The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose > > to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting. > > In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove > > their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to > > join the PMC at a later time. > > > > If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now. > > > > -- > > Martin Cooper > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > > > Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted > > > and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2], > > > along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache > > > top-level project (TLP). > > > > > > The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In > > > Craig's words, "The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our > > > own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally > > > recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta)." In > > > practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done. > > > > > > As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have > > > already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James, > > > Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in > > > favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly > > > oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta. > > > > > > If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond > > > to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your > > > concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone > > > was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up. > > > > > > The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could > > > reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not > > > put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would > > > only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0. > > > > > > The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank. > > > Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this > > > capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So, > > > please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache > > > Struts. > > > > > > Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice > > > President. > > > > > > -- > > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > [1] > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&[EMAIL > PROTECTED]&searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22&defaultField=subject&Search=Search > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html > > > [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html > > > [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since Craig indicated his preference NOT to be VP, how > does this impact this proposal ? I don't believe that's the case. Craig indicated that he *is* willing to be Vice President, but pointed out that his being VP isn't a necessary condition for Struts becoming a TLP. He voted +0, after all. -- Martin Cooper > > -Rob > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project
Sorry, I just moved from Hawaii to California so I haven't been following struts-dev like I should. About the TLP vote: +0 - no strong feelings one way or another Don - Original Message - From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:47:05 -0800 (PST) To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project > The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC > members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have > attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back. > > The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose > to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting. > In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove > their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to join the > PMC at a later time. > > If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now. > > -- > Martin Cooper > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted > > and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2], > > along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache > > top-level project (TLP). > > > > The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In > > Craig's words, "The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our > > own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally > > recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta)." In > > practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done. > > > > As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have > > already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James, > > Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in > > favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly > > oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta. > > > > If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond > > to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your > > concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone > > was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up. > > > > The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could > > reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not > > put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would > > only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0. > > > > The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank. > > Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this > > capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So, > > please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache > > Struts. > > > > Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice > > President. > > > > -- > > Martin Cooper > > > > [1] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]&searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22&defaultField=subject&Search=Search > > [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html > > [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html > > [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Don Brown wrote: > Sorry, I just moved from Hawaii to California so I haven't been following struts-dev > like I should. Welcome to California! (Did you bring the weather with you? Is that why it's so nice right now? ;) > > About the TLP vote: +0 - no strong feelings one way or another Excellent. Now I don't have to modify the resolution at all. ;-) -- Martin Cooper > > Don > > - Original Message - > From: Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:47:05 -0800 (PST) > To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project > > > The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC > > members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have > > attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back. > > > > The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose > > to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting. > > In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove > > their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to join the > > PMC at a later time. > > > > If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now. > > > > -- > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: > > > > > Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted > > > and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2], > > > along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache > > > top-level project (TLP). > > > > > > The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In > > > Craig's words, "The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our > > > own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally > > > recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta)." In > > > practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done. > > > > > > As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have > > > already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James, > > > Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in > > > favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly > > > oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta. > > > > > > If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond > > > to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your > > > concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone > > > was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up. > > > > > > The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could > > > reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not > > > put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would > > > only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0. > > > > > > The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank. > > > Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this > > > capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So, > > > please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache > > > Struts. > > > > > > Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice > > > President. > > > > > > -- > > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > [1] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=&[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]&searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22&defaultField=subject&Search=Search > > > [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html > > > [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html > > > [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
