Struts tooling in WS*D5, was: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-12-01 Thread Thomas L Roche
Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:25:39 +0100
 JBuilder 8, available soon will provide some Struts wizard, I've
 got the beta so I check thisand what my surprise ! ... JBuilder
 8 provide Struts support only for Struts 1.0, the wizard look like
 Easy Struts wizard (without the bugs;)

 Wizard are only Action and ActionForm. The Struts config editor
 isn't powerfull and user-friendly than Struts Console.

 Same thing for IBM WSED 5...!

Wrong! First off, Struts Tooling has now been moved to WSSD (the
lowest/cheapest part of the payware stack). More importantly,

* Our SCE rocks, but not quite as hard as ...

* Our Web Diagram Editor allows you to visually build Struts (1.0
  *and* 1.1) modules and apps, using ...

* Wizards for Action* plus projects, modules (in 1.1 projects),
  Struts-taglib-using JSPs (with visual editing), and those 
  web diagrams.

* Alternatively, build from the ground up using a cheat sheet.
  (Think meta-wizard.)

* Struts-aware Web Structure View

* Struts-specific validation

David Graham á ecrit:
 Of course they only support 1.0 because that's the only released
 version. If you were making a multi-million dollar IDE would you
 include beta software?

You would if it's Struts :-)

David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 27 Nov 2002 13:38:03
 Yes, a release is coming soon. Now what is the definition of soon

WSED customers already have Tech Preview

http://www7b.boulder.ibm.com/wsdd/downloads/struts=5Ftools.html

General availability will be that plus more 1.1 functionality. Now,
if I can only get marketing to tell me where I can link to, in order
to put a blurb on

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/guis.html

:-(


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Re: Struts tooling in WS*D5, was: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-12-01 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
this is David  Goliath ;)

--- Thomas L Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:25:39 +0100 
  JBuilder 8, available soon will provide some Struts wizard, I've 
  got the beta so I check thisand what my surprise ! ... JBuilder 
  8 provide Struts support only for Struts 1.0, the wizard look like 
  Easy Struts wizard (without the bugs;) 
 
  Wizard are only Action and ActionForm. The Struts config editor 
  isn't powerfull and user-friendly than Struts Console. 
 
  Same thing for IBM WSED 5...! 
 
 Wrong! First off, Struts Tooling has now been moved to WSSD (the 
 lowest/cheapest part of the payware stack). More importantly, 
 
 * Our SCE rocks, but not quite as hard as ... 
 
 * Our Web Diagram Editor allows you to visually build Struts (1.0 
 *and* 1.1) modules and apps, using ... 
 
 * Wizards for Action* plus projects, modules (in 1.1 projects), 
 Struts-taglib-using JSPs (with visual editing), and those 
 web diagrams. 
 
 * Alternatively, build from the ground up using a cheat sheet. 
 (Think meta-wizard.) 
 
 * Struts-aware Web Structure View 
 
 * Struts-specific validation 
 
 David Graham á ecrit: 
  Of course they only support 1.0 because that's the only released 
  version. If you were making a multi-million dollar IDE would you 
  include beta software? 
 
 You would if it's Struts :-) 
 
 David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 27 Nov 2002 13:38:03 
  Yes, a release is coming soon. Now what is the definition of soon 
 
 WSED customers already have Tech Preview 
 
 http://www7b.boulder.ibm.com/wsdd/downloads/struts=5Ftools.html 
 
 General availability will be that plus more 1.1 functionality. Now, 
 if I can only get marketing to tell me where I can link to, in order 
 to put a blurb on 
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/guis.html 
 
 :-( 
 
 
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About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-11-27 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Hi,

JBuilder 8, available soon will provide some Struts wizard, I've got the beta so I 
check
thisand what my surprise ! ... JBuilder 8 provide Struts support only for Struts 
1.0, the
wizard look like Easy Struts wizard (without the bugs;)

Wizard are only Action and ActionForm. The Struts config editor isn't powerfull and 
user-friendly
than Struts Console.

Same thing for IBM WSED 5...!

So Struts console and Easy Struts are indispensables ;)

-emmanuel

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Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-11-27 Thread James Holmes
Thanks for the report.  I too had heard that there was
Struts support in the new IDEs, but haven't had the
chance to see it yet.

-james

--- Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 JBuilder 8, available soon will provide some Struts
 wizard, I've got the beta so I check
 thisand what my surprise ! ... JBuilder 8
 provide Struts support only for Struts 1.0, the
 wizard look like Easy Struts wizard (without the
 bugs;)
 
 Wizard are only Action and ActionForm. The Struts
 config editor isn't powerfull and user-friendly
 than Struts Console.
 
 Same thing for IBM WSED 5...!
 
 So Struts console and Easy Struts are
 indispensables ;)
 
 -emmanuel
 

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Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-11-27 Thread David Graham
Of course they only support 1.0 because that's the only released version.  
If you were making a multi-million dollar IDE would you include beta 
software?

David






From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:25:39 +0100 (CET)

Hi,

JBuilder 8, available soon will provide some Struts wizard, I've got the 
beta so I check
thisand what my surprise ! ... JBuilder 8 provide Struts support only 
for Struts 1.0, the
wizard look like Easy Struts wizard (without the bugs;)

Wizard are only Action and ActionForm. The Struts config editor isn't 
powerfull and user-friendly
than Struts Console.

Same thing for IBM WSED 5...!

So Struts console and Easy Struts are indispensables ;)

-emmanuel

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Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-11-27 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
Like Struts  YES ;)

Struts is on beta 2, add a lot of new feature and I'm sure a release is coming soon 
(start 2003),
isn't it ?

 --- David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Of course they only support 
1.0 because
that's the only released version.  
 If you were making a multi-million dollar IDE would you include beta 
 software?
 
 David
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support
 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:25:39 +0100 (CET)
 
 Hi,
 
 JBuilder 8, available soon will provide some Struts wizard, I've got the 
 beta so I check
 thisand what my surprise ! ... JBuilder 8 provide Struts support only 
 for Struts 1.0, the
 wizard look like Easy Struts wizard (without the bugs;)
 
 Wizard are only Action and ActionForm. The Struts config editor isn't 
 powerfull and user-friendly
 than Struts Console.
 
 Same thing for IBM WSED 5...!
 
 So Struts console and Easy Struts are indispensables ;)
 
 -emmanuel
 
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Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-11-27 Thread David Graham
Yes, a release is coming soon.  Now what is the definition of soon :-) ?

David







From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:34:24 +0100 (CET)

Like Struts  YES ;)

Struts is on beta 2, add a lot of new feature and I'm sure a release is 
coming soon (start 2003),
isn't it ?

 --- David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Of course they 
only support 1.0 because
that's the only released version.
 If you were making a multi-million dollar IDE would you include beta
 software?

 David






 From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support
 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:25:39 +0100 (CET)
 
 Hi,
 
 JBuilder 8, available soon will provide some Struts wizard, I've got 
the
 beta so I check
 thisand what my surprise ! ... JBuilder 8 provide Struts support 
only
 for Struts 1.0, the
 wizard look like Easy Struts wizard (without the bugs;)
 
 Wizard are only Action and ActionForm. The Struts config editor isn't
 powerfull and user-friendly
 than Struts Console.
 
 Same thing for IBM WSED 5...!
 
 So Struts console and Easy Struts are indispensables ;)
 
 -emmanuel
 
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Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support

2002-11-27 Thread Emmanuel Boudrant
January ;)

 --- David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Yes, a release is coming soon. 
 Now what
is the definition of soon :-) ?
 
 David
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support
 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:34:24 +0100 (CET)
 
 Like Struts  YES ;)
 
 Struts is on beta 2, add a lot of new feature and I'm sure a release is 
 coming soon (start 2003),
 isn't it ?
 
   --- David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Of course they 
 only support 1.0 because
 that's the only released version.
   If you were making a multi-million dollar IDE would you include beta
   software?
  
   David
  
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Emmanuel Boudrant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: About JBuilder 8 / WSED 5 ... Struts support
   Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:25:39 +0100 (CET)
   
   Hi,
   
   JBuilder 8, available soon will provide some Struts wizard, I've got 
 the
   beta so I check
   thisand what my surprise ! ... JBuilder 8 provide Struts support 
 only
   for Struts 1.0, the
   wizard look like Easy Struts wizard (without the bugs;)
   
   Wizard are only Action and ActionForm. The Struts config editor isn't
   powerfull and user-friendly
   than Struts Console.
   
   Same thing for IBM WSED 5...!
   
   So Struts console and Easy Struts are indispensables ;)
   
   -emmanuel
   
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