RE: Textarea and Wrap
The HTML 4.01 specification says that in textareas "user agents may wrap visible text lines to keep long lines visible without the need for scrolling." Unfortunately, many user agents, including Netscape 4.7, won't actually do this with an additional "wrap" property. This is on the TODO list for 1.1. When implemented, this would certainly be an optional property, and if the developer did not specify "wrap=soft" or "wrap=hard", then a wrap propertly would not be included. I agree that it is unfortunate that we have to accomodate the vagriances of browser implementations, but it is my understanding that Struts is suppose to be a framework for deploying real-world applications. In practice, I would not be able to ship a Web application that used a text area without wrapping through Netscape 4.x, since there would too many user requests to add the feature. (I forgot the wrap property on a comment form once, and, as usual, learned the hard way.) How would Opera be adversly affected by Struts providing an optional wrap property? *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/6/2001 at 9:26 AM Michael Gerdau wrote: [wrap for textarea] I realize that "wrap" isn't part of the official spec, but it is supported by both IE and Netscape. What about us Opera users ? Why do you want to violate the spec anyway ? I was wondering if there was some alternative, or if my changes might make their way into CVS. I strongly object against this. There are already enough incompatibilities to be aware of. My DM 0.02, best, Michael -- Vote against SPAM - see http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Michael Gerdau email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Function call to load Windows: here_piggy_piggy_piggy_piggy PGP-keys available on request or at public keyserver -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 425-0252; Fax 716 223-2506. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/
RE: Textarea and Wrap
Did you want to signup for this? It's on the TODO list for 1.1 but no one's volunteered yet. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/5/2001 at 11:18 AM Colin Sampaleanu wrote: +1 I actually suggested this 3 or 4 months ago. Not having support for wrap is a big pain in the butt... -Original Message- From: Steve Vaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 30, 2001 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Textarea and Wrap Is there any plan to support wrap in textarea fields. I have already coded changes to "src/share/org/apache/struts/taglib/TextareaTag.java" and "src/doc/struts-form.xml" to add a wrap attribute. I realize that "wrap" isn't part of the official spec, but it is supported by both IE and Netscape. I can't even imagine using a textarea without some form of wrapping enabled. I was wondering if there was some alternative, or if my changes might make their way into CVS. - Steve _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 425-0252; Fax 716 223-2506. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/
RE: Textarea and Wrap
+1 Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/06/2001 07:32:35 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Elod Horvath) Subject: RE: Textarea and Wrap Received: from wdpsec01.bankofny.com ([10.101.8.180]) by lnotes3.bankofny.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.7 (934.1 12-30-1999)) with SMTP id 852569EB.00451DA8; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:34:55 -0500 Received: from email.bankofny.com (unverified) by wdpsec01.bankofny.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:34:20 -0500 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by EMAIL.BANKOFNY.COM (PMDF V5.2-31 #42228) id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORCPT rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]); Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:33:29 EST Received: from eagle.ssg.bny.com ([192.168.99.23]) by EMAIL.BANKOFNY.COM (PMDF V5.2-31 #42228) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORCPT rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED]); Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from h31.sny.collab.net ([64.208.42.41]) by eagle.ssg.bny.com via smtpd (for email.ssg.bny.com [160.100.151.79]) with SMTP; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:33:57 + (UT) Received: (qmail 58455 invoked by uid 500); Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:32:42 + Received: (qmail 58086 invoked from network); Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:32:39 + Received: from mailout4-0.nyroc.rr.com (24.92.226.120) by h31.sny.collab.net with SMTP; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:32:39 + Received: from pc10 (roc-24-93-14-35.rochester.rr.com [24.93.14.35]) by mailout4-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.2/RoadRunner 1.03) with ESMTP id f16CTEb13147 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:29:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:32:35 -0500 From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Textarea and Wrap In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Dev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.10.03.02 (1) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Here's a related idea: Should all the Struts HTML tags have an option for adding custom properties as-is? For example custom="wrap=soft googleplex=centurion optimize" Duty now for the future ... -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 425-0252; Fax 716 223-2506. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/
RE: Textarea and Wrap
+1 Is it also worth thinking in general about a mechanism to allow custom tag properties conditionally. It is fairly easy to detect the user agent (browser), and based on that information different properties could be written out. If we can figure out a clean syntax, it's a lot cleaner than doing big JSP 'if' blocks to account for browser differences (which are sometimes unfortunately a fact of life). -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 6, 2001 7:33 AM To: Struts Dev Subject: RE: Textarea and Wrap Here's a related idea: Should all the Struts HTML tags have an option for adding custom properties as-is? For example custom="wrap=soft googleplex=centurion optimize" Duty now for the future ... -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 425-0252; Fax 716 223-2506. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/
RE: Textarea and Wrap
+1 I actually suggested this 3 or 4 months ago. Not having support for wrap is a big pain in the butt... -Original Message- From: Steve Vaughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: January 30, 2001 9:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Textarea and Wrap Is there any plan to support wrap in textarea fields. I have already coded changes to "src/share/org/apache/struts/taglib/TextareaTag.java" and "src/doc/struts-form.xml" to add a wrap attribute. I realize that "wrap" isn't part of the official spec, but it is supported by both IE and Netscape. I can't even imagine using a textarea without some form of wrapping enabled. I was wondering if there was some alternative, or if my changes might make their way into CVS. - Steve _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
