RE: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB, Weblogic)

2003-08-04 Thread Brendan . Johnston
I think Linus' requirements are wrong.
Books on J2EE patterns in general, and Core J2EE Patterns in particular,
are not worth reading.

Change the requirement to books that provide useful patterns for J2EE
applications, and you get the answer you want, which is Fowler's Patterns
of Enterprise Application Archectecture.

Unit testing in Java sounds interesting.

I too am in search of a WebLogic book.
I have one on my desk, and have perused the Amazon comments.
I plan to visit a bookshop later this week and buy one.
I will try to post a review view once I have read one.

Brendan



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From: Laurent PETIT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Book recommendations (J2EE, Struts, JUnit, EJB,
Weblogic)


Hello,

I'm looking for a good book related to the Test first driven development
area.

I browsed the amazon customer reviews for the classical books on the subject
(Kent Beck, ...) but was still afraid of something : are this book really
connected to reality when you have to deal with real projects (what I mean
here by real project could be : a web version of an enterprise application
to deal with its products, employees, commercials, ..., not just a project
to build an Euro converter or a bowling scorer (*), ... which does'nt really
speak to me and prove to me that those techniques may scale well and prove
benefits in my area of concern).

I found one book that seems REALLY interesting on the subject :
Unit testing in Java, by Johannes Link and Peter Frohlich.

It seems to address topic as testing in web apps, with databases involved,
asynchronous processes (do you know a recent application which doesn't have
to send or receive emails in its requirements ? ...)

But there are only 3 reviews on the book, the book itself is very young
(April 2003), so I wonder if you folks in this mailing list have read it,
and maybe may give us some other point of view ??

Thanks in advance,

--
Laurent

(*) : In fact, I really enjoyed the reading of the paper on the bowling
scorer pair programming and TDD I found on the objectmentor website, but
after reading it, one question still occurs to me : well, ok, but what in
real projects, and with real programmers that aren't senior consultants of
a brilliant society ?





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 Thank you for the reply. But I'm looking for books, not online articles or
 documentation. I know I can probably find book recommendations at the
sites
 you point to, but I was trying to save myself the effort of searching for
 them and of evaluating their recommendations by posting to this group
 instead.

 //Linus Nikander

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  Browsing peoples comments at amazon might be rewarding, but it sure
takes
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  lot of time. I'm trying to find good (best) books for a couple of
  java-related areas. As most people who subscribe to this newsgroup
 probably
  have a bunch of books at home this should be the ideal place to ask for
  recommendations. So, what are your recommendations for good books on
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  J2EE Patterns
  Struts
  JUnit (or testing in general, JUnit seems to be one of the most widely
  accepted, haven't seen a lot of books for it though)
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 as
  a
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  Weblogic 7.x or 8.x (Administration, tuning, best practices for EJBs
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 Struts in Action is a book.
 Good luck with your specific requirements.

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RE: Problems with Struts 1.1, html-el, and weblogic 6.1

2003-07-30 Thread Brendan . Johnston
I am using WebLogic 6.1 and struts
I have not tried html-el.

There are a few options for where you can put the libraries:

1. I have them in the lib directory under WEB-INF.
2. Another option is to put them in the classpath in startWebLogic.
3. The priority/treatment of classes can be changed by selecting
PreferWebInfClasses=true in the web application tag in config.xml.

It is likely that the way you compile your JSP's impacts how the class
loaders are structured and therefore what classes can be found.

We use weblogic.jspc to compile the JSP's before deployment.
However JSP's currently recompile in production.

Note also that I have had difficulties with the WebLogic jsp compiler,
depending on service pack.  I have a patch for service pack 5 to address
difficulties.

Here is the 1.1 release code:

/**
 * Return the codeClass/code object for the specified fully
qualified
 * class name, from this web application's class loader.
 *
 * @param className Fully qualified class name to be loaded
 * @return Class object
 * @exception ClassNotFoundException if the class cannot be found
 */
public static Class applicationClass(String className) throws
ClassNotFoundException {

// Look up the class loader to be used
ClassLoader classLoader =
Thread.currentThread().getContextClassLoader();
if (classLoader == null) {
classLoader = RequestUtils.class.getClassLoader();
}

// Attempt to load the specified class
return (classLoader.loadClass(className));

}


I wonder if the context class loader is not set in one of the two cases.
You may want to use a debugger, or add some debug logs to find out.

Since it works one way and not the other, you can guess that
WebLogic is doing something different in each case,
which to my mind is unexpected behavoir.

Brendan



-Original Message-
From: Jarrod M. Lugo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache. Org
Subject: Problems with Struts 1.1, html-el, and weblogic 6.1


I have been running Struts 1.1 on WebLogic 6.1 with no problems (using both
the html and html-el taglibs), until I tried to use the precompile option.

If I have a page that uses the html taglib, the compilation works fine.
But if I change the page to use the html-el taglib, I get this error.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Jarrod Lugo



[ERROR] MessageResourcesFactory - -MessageResourcesFactory.createFactory
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
org.apache.struts.util.PropertyMessageResourcesFactoryjava.lang.ClassNotFou
ndException: org.apache.struts.util.PropertyMessageResourcesFactory
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:183)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:294)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:281)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:250)
at
org.apache.struts.util.RequestUtils.applicationClass(RequestUtils.java:207)
at
org.apache.struts.util.MessageResourcesFactory.createFactory(MessageResource
sFactory.java:192)
at
org.apache.struts.util.MessageResources.getMessageResources(MessageResources
.java:576)
at
org.apache.struts.util.RequestUtils.clinit(RequestUtils.java:134)
at
org.apache.struts.util.MessageResourcesFactory.createFactory(MessageResource
sFactory.java:192)
at
org.apache.struts.util.MessageResources.getMessageResources(MessageResources
.java:576)
at org.apache.struts.taglib.html.BaseTag.clinit(BaseTag.java:94)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:115)
at
org.apache.strutsel.taglib.html.ELBaseTagBeanInfo.class$(ELBaseTagBeanInfo.j
ava:81)
at
org.apache.strutsel.taglib.html.ELBaseTagBeanInfo.getPropertyDescriptors(ELB
aseTagBeanInfo.java:81)
at
java.beans.Introspector.getTargetPropertyInfo(Introspector.java:341)
at java.beans.Introspector.getBeanInfo(Introspector.java:291)
at java.beans.Introspector.getBeanInfo(Introspector.java:123)
at
weblogic.servlet.jsp.StandardTagLib.parseTagDD(StandardTagLib.java:1034)
at
weblogic.servlet.jsp.StandardTagLib.parseDD(StandardTagLib.java:972)
at
weblogic.servlet.jsp.StandardTagLib.init(StandardTagLib.java:207)
at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspLexer.loadTagLib(JspLexer.java:150)
at
weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspLexer.mTAGLIB_DIRECTIVE_BODY(JspLexer.java:4596)
at
weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspLexer.mTAGLIB_DIRECTIVE(JspLexer.java:4434)
at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspLexer.mDIRECTIVE(JspLexer.java:4281)
at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspLexer.mSTANDARD_THING(JspLexer.java:2167)
at 

RE: Prob:Calling a bean:write inside html:text - Nesting is nice

2003-07-30 Thread Brendan . Johnston
It would be nice if this:

aTag anAtribute=aValue /

Parsed the same as:

aTag
   anAtributeaValue/anAttribute
/aTag


Failing that it would be nice if any tags with attribute
also accepted nested tags with the same name and meaning as an alternative.

Brendan




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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, James Childers wrote:

 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:35:53 -0500
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 YOU CAN'T NEST TAGS.

 YOU CAN'T NEST TAGS.

 You, or anyone else, cannot nest tags. Tags cannot be nested. Nesting tags
is prohibited. If you nest a tag inside another tag, the page won't compile.
Nesting tags ist verbotten. Do not nest tags if you want your page to work.

 The following won't work:

 html:test property=bean:write property=something / /

It is true that this won't work, but I would caution you that nesting
tags actually means something different:

  html:form ...
html:text .../
html:text .../
  /html:form

which is perfectly legitimate.  A correct sentence describing what you
cannot do is You cannot use one tag to create all or part of the
attribute value of another tag.

Craig

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[OT] RE: Prob:Calling a bean:write inside html:text - Nesting is nice

2003-07-30 Thread Brendan . Johnston
The JSTL authors decided that the value might need calculation to work it
out,
but that a pattern would not require other tags to determine.

Were they right?
Maybe, maybe not.

If they adopted the approach I suggested,
they would just have some extra busy work supporting nesting for everything,
but they would not have to think about it, and would be 'right' everytime.

The conceptual size of the tag would be smaller than the approach they took,
because I would not need to look up the documentation to see which
attributes could be tags.

If the authors of XML took this approach,
not only would the authors of JSTL not think have about it,
but parsers would be simpler,
and whole paragraphs wasted on what should be an attribute
and what should be tag would be gone from the world.

So my solution is simple, pretend that the authors of XML did take this
approach.

Brendan



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From: Steve Raeburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Prob:Calling a bean:write inside html:text - Nesting is
nice


Try JSTL. For example: 

  fmt:parseDate var=aDate  pattern=dd/MM/ value=26/12/1968 /

is equivalent to:

  fmt:parseDate  var=aDate pattern=dd/MM/
26/12/1968
  /fmt:parseDate

The content of the second example can even be generated by nested tags.

Steve

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 nice
 
 
 It would be nice if this:
 
 aTag anAtribute=aValue /
 
 Parsed the same as:
 
 aTag
anAtributeaValue/anAttribute
 /aTag
 
 
 Failing that it would be nice if any tags with attribute
 also accepted nested tags with the same name and meaning as an 
 alternative.
 
 Brendan
 
 
 
 
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  Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:35:53 -0500
  From: James Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Prob:Calling a bean:write inside html:text
 
 
  YOU CAN'T NEST TAGS.
 
  YOU CAN'T NEST TAGS.
 
  You, or anyone else, cannot nest tags. Tags cannot be nested. 
 Nesting tags
 is prohibited. If you nest a tag inside another tag, the page 
 won't compile.
 Nesting tags ist verbotten. Do not nest tags if you want your 
 page to work.
 
  The following won't work:
 
  html:test property=bean:write property=something / /
 
 It is true that this won't work, but I would caution you that nesting
 tags actually means something different:
 
   html:form ...
 html:text .../
 html:text .../
   /html:form
 
 which is perfectly legitimate.  A correct sentence describing what you
 cannot do is You cannot use one tag to create all or part of the
 attribute value of another tag.
 
 Craig
 
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RE: Memory consumption 1.1 b3 vs. 1.1 final

2003-07-29 Thread Brendan . Johnston
Is this an issue because the session is being serialized?

Maybe the reference to the struts config needs to be declared transient and
be restored if the object is deserialized.

Brendan


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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:20 PM
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Maya Retzlaff wrote:

 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:19:19 +0200
 From: Maya Retzlaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: Memory consumption  1.1 b3 vs. 1.1 final

 Hi,

 Unfortunate no one replied. But I'll try again with more information.

 After a bit more debugging, when using the debugger see screen shot.
 http://maya.retzlaff.se/debugScreenShot.png, sorry couldn't export to
text.
 Its a bit censored.

 This means that the whole struts-config.xml (a HashMap with 127 elements)
is
 saved in the session for every user when action scope=session is set
in
 struts-config.xml. For us with the memory restrictions we face, the 50k
that
 the strutsconfig takes in memory is very severe.

Why are you assuming that the memory is being duplicated?  All of the
references point to the one-and-only copy of the actual Config instances,
in the collection that was built when the configuration file was first
parsed.

Craig

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RE: html:form tag and coupling between ActionForm and Action

2003-07-21 Thread Brendan . Johnston
I don't think Daniel's idea will work.

If the action form does not exist then
struts wants to instantiate the form.

Therefore struts needs to know the type.

It might work if you have a session scope form already there.

I think of actions as the most dependent class,
i.e. nothing should depend on actions (no other classes should know anything
about actions),
actions should depend on everything (well not everything, but definitely the
model and the view).

Because they are such nasty beasts, (and because in struts they should have
no state),
they should be very small.

Since they are so small the architecture that puts effort into 
making them generic and reusable may be misguided.

Brendan


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From: Suzette Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:41 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: html:form tag and coupling between ActionForm and Action


I just wanted to add a little bit more to Alex's comment. 

1.Create a form interface that represents your family of forms
abstract class PersonForm extends ActionForm{
getFirstName();
getLastName();
getMiddleName();
}
2.Make your forms implement that interface
3.In your action cast ActionForm to your interface 
PersonProcessingAction extends Action {

Person personForm = (PersonForm)form;
String first = personForm.getFirstName();

}


-Original Message-
From: Alex Shneyderman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: html:form tag and coupling between ActionForm and Action




 What if you want to write an Action that can service a
 family of several different ActionForms??

You can do it. Just need to do it yourself (well sort of).

Alex.


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