[Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic)
comment Still chuckling about the Veggie Tales thread from yesterday. Thanks to everyone for lightening up the afternoon! /comment James Mitchell had a suggestion yesterday about using a [topic] prefix in the subject line that can be used to filter threads. I know that I would use this as I don't really care about how to configure WebSphere or JBuilder (no offense intended) to use Struts. James had a pretty good start on a list (see below); I vote that we ALL begin trying to use these and expand on them as needed. It would be nice to be able to limit the number of e-mails that we all have to deal with from this list (and all of the others) that we belong to. James List: [DynaForms] [Validator] [Logging] [DTD] [EJB] [i18n] [IDE] - maybe include the name of the IDE? i.e [IDE-JBuilder] [JSTL] [Modules] or [Sub-Apps] [Struts-Example] [Tiles] [SOAP] [Taglib] [UML] I would like to add [Struts-Config] [Tiles-Config] [Validator-Config] etc. or is this getting to fine-grained? Jerry Jalenak Development Manager, Web Publishing LabOne, Inc. 10101 Renner Blvd. Lenexa, KS 66219 (913) 577-1496 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This transmission (and any information attached to it) may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the transmission to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this transmission in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify LabOne at (800)388-4675. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic)
+1 /\/\ark - Original Message - From: Jerry Jalenak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:28 AM Subject: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic) comment Still chuckling about the Veggie Tales thread from yesterday. Thanks to everyone for lightening up the afternoon! /comment James Mitchell had a suggestion yesterday about using a [topic] prefix in the subject line that can be used to filter threads. I know that I would use this as I don't really care about how to configure WebSphere or JBuilder (no offense intended) to use Struts. James had a pretty good start on a list (see below); I vote that we ALL begin trying to use these and expand on them as needed. It would be nice to be able to limit the number of e-mails that we all have to deal with from this list (and all of the others) that we belong to. James List: [DynaForms] [Validator] [Logging] [DTD] [EJB] [i18n] [IDE] - maybe include the name of the IDE? i.e [IDE-JBuilder] [JSTL] [Modules] or [Sub-Apps] [Struts-Example] [Tiles] [SOAP] [Taglib] [UML] I would like to add [Struts-Config] [Tiles-Config] [Validator-Config] etc. or is this getting to fine-grained? Jerry Jalenak Development Manager, Web Publishing LabOne, Inc. 10101 Renner Blvd. Lenexa, KS 66219 (913) 577-1496 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This transmission (and any information attached to it) may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the transmission to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this transmission in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify LabOne at (800)388-4675. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic)
It's a good idea, but in practice I think it's going to be a hassle, especially if this list grows. Those who are filtering will have to go through the rigmarole of setting them up again should they have to reinstall their client. And new users will also have to start filtering, and I can foresee lots of posts in the future informing people of the use of filters etc. I think it would be a whole lot less hassle to keep a core struts mailing list, and move off-topic discussions to another list - 'struts-related' or something. It doesn't seem fair to force those not interested in the other stuff to take measures to filter it when they're not even a part of it in the first place :) On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 14:40, Michael Lee wrote: I think a filter is good...the best filter being [OT] My 5 c add... [APPSVR-WLS] [APPSVR-JBOSS] [WEBSVR-TOMCAT] [WEBSVR-JRUN] etc... Michael Lee - Original Message - From: Jerry Jalenak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:28 AM Subject: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we getting o ff the topic) comment Still chuckling about the Veggie Tales thread from yesterday. Thanks to everyone for lightening up the afternoon! /comment James Mitchell had a suggestion yesterday about using a [topic] prefix in the subject line that can be used to filter threads. I know that I would use this as I don't really care about how to configure WebSphere or JBuilder (no offense intended) to use Struts. James had a pretty good start on a list (see below); I vote that we ALL begin trying to use these and expand on them as needed. It would be nice to be able to limit the number of e-mails that we all have to deal with from this list (and all of the others) that we belong to. James List: [DynaForms] [Validator] [Logging] [DTD] [EJB] [i18n] [IDE] - maybe include the name of the IDE? i.e [IDE-JBuilder] [JSTL] [Modules] or [Sub-Apps] [Struts-Example] [Tiles] [SOAP] [Taglib] [UML] I would like to add [Struts-Config] [Tiles-Config] [Validator-Config] etc. or is this getting to fine-grained? Jerry Jalenak Development Manager, Web Publishing LabOne, Inc. 10101 Renner Blvd. Lenexa, KS 66219 (913) 577-1496 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This transmission (and any information attached to it) may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the transmission to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this transmission in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify LabOne at (800)388-4675. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards --- Cliff Rowley| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer | www.doctype.co.uk +44 (0) 1206 514263 | www.cliffrowley.com --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic)
bound to be... if someone isn't sure which category their problem falls into, they will probably mail to both... -Original Message- From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 August 2002 15:08 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic) I guess the question is, filter one list or two. Is the volume of two separate lists going to be more than the same information in one list? On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:04, Tim T. Young wrote: My fear with another list is that good information will be available in both, and I will have to process 300+ emails a day (2 lists x 150 a list). Tim -- Regards --- Cliff Rowley| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer | www.doctype.co.uk +44 (0) 1206 514263 | www.cliffrowley.com --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic)
True, I hadn't though of that. On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:10, Kidd, Polly wrote: bound to be... if someone isn't sure which category their problem falls into, they will probably mail to both... -Original Message- From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 August 2002 15:08 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic) I guess the question is, filter one list or two. Is the volume of two separate lists going to be more than the same information in one list? On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:04, Tim T. Young wrote: My fear with another list is that good information will be available in both, and I will have to process 300+ emails a day (2 lists x 150 a list). Tim -- Regards --- Cliff Rowley| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer | www.doctype.co.uk +44 (0) 1206 514263 | www.cliffrowley.com --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards --- Cliff Rowley| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Engineer | www.doctype.co.uk +44 (0) 1206 514263 | www.cliffrowley.com --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we gettingo ff the topic)
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:25:01 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we getti ngo ff the topic) I would agree with putting the tags on. I don't think there needs to be an official list of tags, just having them there will be easy enough. I will put them on the description of the STRUTS-USER mailing list, but only as a recommended convention -- not as a requirement. Personally, I leave my mail reader in sort-by-thread mode with a different folder per subscribed list -- and the first menu option I learned was the mark thread as read command ... it works wonders. Hopefully, if everyone starts doing it, new people would notice that every time there is a question of something about tiles (for example) it seems to always start with [tiles]... People do learn by watching -- but I'm going to absolutely *stomp* on anybody who yells at newbies for not following the convention. -1 for new list I'm already maxed on the number of lists that *I* am willing to subscribe to ... Craig -Original Message- From: ekbush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:35 AM To: struts-user Subject: Re: [Proposal] Thread Topic Identification (was [BS] Are we getti ngo ff the topic) Are filters really _that_ hard to set up? ... I've got probably 30 of them going to sift and sort my mail -- continually having to edit them as projects evolve (ie there is tomcat5 stuff floating around now, and I had to edit my tc-dev filter). I don't see it as much of a problem -- and most (reasonable) clients can be configured to actually just delete messages off the server if they meet certain criteria, so there's not even any need to download them. +1 for tags -1 for a seperate list +1 for more fridays in the week :-P I think the tags would really help us all zone-in on what is most important to us. As such, I think it would be helpful to everyone - devs *and* users. Think of this example (I'm going to pick on Cedric, because he comes to mind): Cedric downloads his mail - there are about 150 struts-user mailings, but he's really busy and really just cares to see the ones for tiles right now. without tags: Cedric probably has to read all the subjects, and he might still miss something that speaks of a tiles issue but doesn't mention it in the topic. with tags: Cedric knows immediately which threads need his expert assistance, and can even filter them to a (sub-)folder for easy-access. Yes, when he has time he can go through the others too (if he wants), but right now he's quite busy (probably is but I'm speaking hypothetically, of course) so he can just cut to the chase and take care of those people most in need of his help. ... but I'm sure you all have your own view on why it would be a good/bad thing. Regards, Eddie Cliff Rowley wrote: True, I hadn't though of that. On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:10, Kidd, Polly wrote: bound to be... if someone isn't sure which category their problem falls into, they will probably mail to both... -Original Message- From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I guess the question is, filter one list or two. Is the volume of two separate lists going to be more than the same information in one list? On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 15:04, Tim T. Young wrote: My fear with another list is that good information will be available in both, and I will have to process 300+ emails a day (2 lists x 150 a list). Tim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
