Re: Analysis and Design using RUP/UML for Struts/HTML/Java Script application

2004-02-20 Thread Christian Bollmeyer
On Thursday 19 February 2004 15:17, Sreenivasa Chadalavada wrote:
> All,

Hi,

> We will be working on a big project that uses Struts/HTML/Java Script
> as the front end.

Same business as usual.

> We use Rational Rose to support analysis and design activities.

ArcStyler, among other tools. Including Notepad | Kate.

> From your experience (using Struts) what artifacts/deliverables can
> be used to document
> the Presentation Tier? How do we depict the design in Struts? Are
> there any tools that help
> design the system?

Well, I was taught applying UML by drawing hand-drawn sketches
with a pencil. Considering tools, there's an abundance of them
around, some better-suited, some not. Personally, I don't like
Rose that much, it's too cluttered for me, and I can always tell
a typical C++ program at first sight. Well, RR is still the leading
tool in this direction, so forget about my personal tastes.

Considering Struts: Struts implements several design patterns
you may easily 'depict' in any tool. Starting from the 'overall'
MVC2 idiom (technically, that's not a Pattern), it's entirely
upon you far you will go into modelling the details. One
thing you should keep in mind, though, is that the entire
Client (as you mentioned JavaScript) | Web tier is just
another client, talking to a Model (handling the business
logic) which may be finally talking to a Resource |
Persistence layer in the end, but you don't know for
real. Because: each of the 'master' layers may know
it's successor, but not the other way round. That said,
if you're really asking for a list of Design Patterns
implemented in Struts for further depiction, there's
a brief explanation of the general background plus a
list of the ones used in Struts in Appendix A in 'Struts
in Action' (Ted Husted et al.); a book you should own
(and have read twice, at least) before doing anything
in the Struts or MVC2 direction.
 
> Please let me know if you know of a SDLC process that addresses
> analysis/design of Struts
> based application.

Now I'm confused, as I was when I was finding
the RUP in the subject line. Well, to share the
my (limited) general understanding: a process
is a term dealing with how to organize things
best, in a stage | time-based view. Or: who
should be doing what, and at which stage of
the project (when). That's what the RUP,
among other process models, is about.
What you asked, then, was not about *when*
things should be done, or by *whom*, but
- could be I didn't really understood the
problem - *how* a problem should be
practically addressed (using Struts). Well,
actually, there is no process that 'addresses
analysis/design of Struts based application',
including the RUP. Asking for such a thing
usually shows that one hasn't completely
understood the overall context. But
certainly, I just misinterpreted the
question.

> Thanks and Regards,
> Sree/-

HTH,
-- Chris,

who just successfully installed Oracle 10g
under SuSE Linux 9.0; on his old HP E60
server :-) Yeah!

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RE: Analysis and Design using RUP/UML for Struts/HTML/Java Script application

2004-02-19 Thread Sreenivasa Chadalavada
Darrin,

Thanks for the information. I will look into it.

Regards,
Sree/-





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All,

We will be working on a big project that uses Struts/HTML/Java Script as 
the front end.

We use Rational Rose to support analysis and design activities.

>From your experience (using Struts) what artifacts/deliverables can be 
used to document
the Presentation Tier? How do we depict the design in Struts? Are there 
any tools that help
design the system?

Please let me know if you know of a SDLC process that addresses 
analysis/design of Struts
based application.

Thanks and Regards,
Sree/-




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RE: Analysis and Design using RUP/UML for Struts/HTML/Java Script application

2004-02-19 Thread Smith, Darrin
You will find the following useful:

The Struts Framework by Sue Spielman
Developing Enterprise Java Applications With J2EE and UML by Khawar Ahmed
and Cary Umrysh


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All,

We will be working on a big project that uses Struts/HTML/Java Script as 
the front end.

We use Rational Rose to support analysis and design activities.

>From your experience (using Struts) what artifacts/deliverables can be 
used to document
the Presentation Tier? How do we depict the design in Struts? Are there 
any tools that help
design the system?

Please let me know if you know of a SDLC process that addresses 
analysis/design of Struts
based application.

Thanks and Regards,
Sree/-




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Analysis and Design using RUP/UML for Struts/HTML/Java Script application

2004-02-19 Thread Sreenivasa Chadalavada
All,

We will be working on a big project that uses Struts/HTML/Java Script as 
the front end.

We use Rational Rose to support analysis and design activities.

>From your experience (using Struts) what artifacts/deliverables can be 
used to document
the Presentation Tier? How do we depict the design in Struts? Are there 
any tools that help
design the system?

Please let me know if you know of a SDLC process that addresses 
analysis/design of Struts
based application.

Thanks and Regards,
Sree/-



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