Re: Anyone still use the layout component ?
I didn't see my reply shown up on this mail list. I post it again as the followings. Thanks Ted for your response. To my knowledge, the Tiles and the component serve the same functionality but doing thing differently. I am not sure what your compatible mean here. In regarding of i18n, the Tiles forces us to use the a set of JSP files per locale approach while the one doesn't. We can't afford to use the approach since we don't have enough man power to maintain a large set of JSP files. The problem we have with the component is the TC tag pool configuration must be false at TC 4.1 up to 5.0 beta. According to the TC online document, the cause very likely is on the tag implementation. We need to find out what need to be fixed. Any suggestions? Thanks, v. -- - Original Message - DATE: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:58:39 From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Tiles was designed to be backwardly compatible, so it's liable to drop right in you want to migrate. HTH, Ted. Vernon Smith wrote: Anyone out there still use the layout component, the one before the Tile? Any usage problem on Tomcat 4.1.x up? I believe it was contributed by David Geary. Thanks, Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Junit in Action - http://www.manning.com/massol/, Struts in Action - http://husted.com/struts/book.html, JSP Site Design - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1861005512. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone still use the layout component ?
Vernon Smith wrote: I didn't see my reply shown up on this mail list. I post it again as the followings. Thanks Ted for your response. To my knowledge, the Tiles and the component serve the same functionality but doing thing differently. I am not sure what your compatible mean here. In regarding of i18n, the Tiles forces us to use the a set of JSP files per locale approach while the one doesn't. We can't afford to use the approach since we don't have enough man power to maintain a large set of JSP files. I don't see why you are drawing this conclusion. The individual pages produced via Tiles can be localized by the same mechanisms as non-Tiles and non-Template pages (such as using the bean:message tag to look up localized text in a resource bundle). The problem we have with the component is the TC tag pool configuration must be false at TC 4.1 up to 5.0 beta. According to the TC online document, the cause very likely is on the tag implementation. We need to find out what need to be fixed. The Tiles implementation included in Struts 1.1, like all the other Struts 1.1 tag libraries, should run fine with tag instance pooling enabled. Any suggestions? Thanks, v. -- Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone still use the layout component ?
Thanks very much Craig for you response. To my knowledge, the Tiles and the component serve the same functionality but doing thing differently. I am not sure what your compatible mean here. In regarding of i18n, the Tiles forces us to use the a set of JSP files per locale approach while the one doesn't. We can't afford to use the approach since we don't have enough man power to maintain a large set of JSP files. I don't see why you are drawing this conclusion. The individual pages produced via Tiles can be localized by the same mechanisms as non-Tiles and non-Template pages (such as using the bean:message tag to look up localized text in a resource bundle). We use the JSTL fmt tag to retrieve locale messages/strings, but not the bean:message tag. Last time, that was about eight,nine months ago, we had spent a quite chunk of time testing out Tiles on localization. The Tiles didn't work with the resource bundle approach. In response of our question, the Tiles creator stated that the Tiles could be used in i18n with the different JSP files per locale approach. The problem, I recall, is that Tiles cachs a single locale region content of a JSP file in the server. When a user access the same JSP file with a different locale, what s/he gets isn't a page with the desired locale but the one cached on the server. I also had experienced different language regions shown up on a page due to the mechanism. I don't know whether this Tiles mechanism has been changed or not in the past some months. The problem we have with the component is the TC tag pool configuration must be false at TC 4.1 up to 5.0 beta. According to the TC online document, the cause very likely is on the tag implementation. We need to find out what need to be fixed. The Tiles implementation included in Struts 1.1, like all the other Struts 1.1 tag libraries, should run fine with tag instance pooling enabled. The component I indicated here is the layout component by David Geary, not Tiles. Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone still use the layout component ?
Anyone out there still use the layout component, the one before the Tile? Any usage problem on Tomcat 4.1.x up? I believe it was contributed by David Geary. Thanks, Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone still use the layout component ?
Tiles was designed to be backwardly compatible, so it's liable to drop right in you want to migrate. HTH, Ted. Vernon Smith wrote: Anyone out there still use the layout component, the one before the Tile? Any usage problem on Tomcat 4.1.x up? I believe it was contributed by David Geary. Thanks, Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Junit in Action - http://www.manning.com/massol/, Struts in Action - http://husted.com/struts/book.html, JSP Site Design - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1861005512. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone still use the layout component ?
Thanks Ted for your response. What do you mean by compatible, however? To my knowledge, the two components do thing differently, although they serve the same functionality. In terms of an i18n solution, the Tile forces us to use one set of jsp files per locale approach, while the other one doesn't. We can't use the Tile, even though we like to since we don't have the manpower to maintain a large set of jsp files. We have no choice, but stay away from Tile. The problem we run into with the component is that the tag pool setting in the server configuration has to be false on TC 4.1 up to TC 5.0. The tag implementation seems not quite right somewhere in the component. We need to find out where the source is to resolve the issue. BTW, we had raised the Tile i18n approach issue before in this mailing list. The author argued (harshly) that is not a Tile issue. (Who's problem then?) Thanks, v. -- - Original Message - DATE: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:58:39 From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Tiles was designed to be backwardly compatible, so it's liable to drop right in you want to migrate. HTH, Ted. Vernon Smith wrote: Anyone out there still use the layout component, the one before the Tile? Any usage problem on Tomcat 4.1.x up? I believe it was contributed by David Geary. Thanks, Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Junit in Action - http://www.manning.com/massol/, Struts in Action - http://husted.com/struts/book.html, JSP Site Design - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1861005512. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
