Re: Apache Tomcat web servers
yan wrote: due to may lack of experience, I am not sure if there are any implications if I host a UK based web application on a Web server based in the US or any other country. You just have to watch what you publish - don't want to end up in Guantanamo Bay ;) Also, what are the important features I should be looking for when making my decision - customer review and recommendations I suppose is a good starting point? In Germany there are several 'comparison' websites that allow people and companies to comment on and rate all sorts of different products, ranging from music to web-hosting providers. I'm sure there must be the same sort of websites in the states too. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache Tomcat web servers
Yan, Jason Hunter has a list of reviewed sites at http://servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll Regards, Phil Seay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Perhaps it is not a good option for you in terms of economics. But do you have the flexibility of being able to change your application functionality at anytime ? I have more Bandwidth with my package deal furthermore I can host a number of sites although I haven't tried out hosting mutiple website sites. From: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:51:18 +0200 Yes, but is that much cheaper? For a start it would require the hardware, plus of course it would cost about 100 euros a year in electricity, plus the upload bandwidth on my DSL is only 256 kbps (is that the right unit?), (download is 1000). message message wrote: Have you considered running tomcat apache on your machine and getting your ISP to redirect to your machine at your premises. From: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:24:15 +0200 How much are you expecting to pay for a shared machine with tomcat on? And is that with or without root access? I am not suggesting anything, but I am planning to do this myself and would like to find out prices. What I have looked at so far for root access costs 49 euros (= dollars almost) for 2GHz CPU with 256MB ram, 40 Gig HD 75 Gigs traffic per month. The next one up with 2.4GHz + 512RAM + 100Gig traffic is 99 euros / month. Adam Philip Seay wrote: Yan, Jason Hunter has a list of reviewed sites at http://servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll Regards, Phil Seay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, but is that much cheaper? For a start it would require the hardware, plus of course it would cost about 100 euros a year in electricity, plus the upload bandwidth on my DSL is only 256 kbps (is that the right unit?), (download is 1000). message message wrote: Have you considered running tomcat apache on your machine and getting your ISP to redirect to your machine at your premises. From: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:24:15 +0200 How much are you expecting to pay for a shared machine with tomcat on? And is that with or without root access? I am not suggesting anything, but I am planning to do this myself and would like to find out prices. What I have looked at so far for root access costs 49 euros (= dollars almost) for 2GHz CPU with 256MB ram, 40 Gig HD 75 Gigs traffic per month. The next one up with 2.4GHz + 512RAM + 100Gig traffic is 99 euros / month. Adam Philip Seay wrote: Yan, Jason Hunter has a list of reviewed sites at http://servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll Regards, Phil Seay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache Tomcat web servers
I personally recommend kgbinternet.com - not only b/c of the cool name, but because of the great support and cheap prices (around $12/mo USD for a private JVM http://www.kgbinternet.com/privatejvm.html). I've been up and running there for over a year and they've been great. I host a Struts-based website that talks to a MySQL database and gets around 6 GB of traffic per month. http://raibledesigns.com/page/rd/20030807#pictures_you_requested [FRIDAY] The beer in the pictures is for you Mark ;-) HTH, Matt -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jason Hunter maintains an ISP list at http://www.servlets.com/isps I don't think it would be appropriate to review ISPs on the Struts site. Steve -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 10, 2003 9:16 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi Hue, thanks for the comprehensive run-down on hosting. Perhaps you should get the company put on http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/hosts.html for the record. Actually it's a shame that there are no comments about the current hosting companies on that list. By the way Hue, you neglected to state one very important fact - how much the package at memset costs! Guess I'll have to check out the link ;) Maybe you can clear up something else for me - with full root access to a virtual server? What is virtual about it? Are you still sharing hardware with other customers? Just as a caveat, I was talking online to a guy who ran tomcat online with unlimited traffic, and he got hacked somehow - he said he had unwittingly left some exploit in RedHat open - the cracker got in and used the bandwidth solid for 18 hours before he discovered it. Cost him 2 grand - eek! Adam Hue Holleran wrote: Hi yan, I would be inclined to keep-away from ISPs who do not have good and *extensively* proven experience with JSP and only go with those who are specifically recommended to you for JSP. I fell-out with a UK-based ISP (servers hosted in the US/Canada) in the last 6 months after failure-after-failure with Tomcat - although they apparently supported tomcat. They felt I was being unreasonable if I complained that TC was down frequently as they claimed their servers were still up and serving static content - so this was fine in their mind - the simple website in question was finally offline for at least 2 weeks. We were being blamed for apparent errors in the pages although the website had not been changed and had worked flawlessly for 3 months prior to this outtage ... and also worked without changes on a fresh download of Tomcat and on every configuration of ours: Windows and Debian Linux with IBM, BEA and Sun's JDKs 1.3-1.4 and under a JSM and without a JSM! We did attempt to get a refund as we'd paid for 12 months hosting in advance - but they refused and unless we wanted to get legal they would not pay up - in the end we transferred to another ISP (easy to do as our DNS is located elsewhere and enabled us to do this). A *costly* lesson. The lessons we learned are: 1) Always keep control of DNS records - and allows easily and quickly moving from a poorly-performing ISP. Ours are with register.com - not cheap but their DNS appears to be very solid and all DNS can be configured online and DNS costs are included in the domain registration costs. There are plenty of other options for other DNS providers, though. 2) Never go with an ISP for technologies they seem to support - only ever go with a technology from an ISP if they specialise in this and really know what they're doing. Recommendations seem to be the key, here - recommendations for kgbinternet seem to crop-up a lot - I haven't personally read a bad word about them yet. 3) For JSP specifically - always consider what _could_ go wrong with hosting and what implications sharing with other sites could have. For instance a private JVM is a really good idea - from a security, performance and reliability viewpoint. Also, consider what effect other services running on the same server could have - for instance we lost tomcat once as, unknown to us - the server was also being used for users just playing about with tomcat - another user had deleted their jserv directory and this caused tomcat to fail to start - taking our site with it. We also had problems wanting to change some settings for the JSM - in order to run Struts/Tiles - this was finally done - but grudgingly only by the above ISP. 4) Consider what version of Tomcat (or other container) you'd like to be running and ask whether this is the version they run and how proactive are they at installing security updates and fixes. When we first investigated the version running with our ISP it was Tomcat 3.2 beta 4(!) - even though 3.3a Final and 4.1.x was also suitable for production. From the Tomcat bug database there appeared to be some very serious security problems with the version they were running: source disclosure, web.xml disclosure etc.! Our Choice ** After trying 4 different shared hosting providers we now use http://www.memset.com/ - who supply a very competitively-priced complete virtual Linux server - with unlimited bandwidth and full root access and control panel to remotely reboot the server, if necessary. There are more options here: http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/uses.html and http
RE: Apache Tomcat web servers
Hi yan, Memset support only the virtual server. They are well versed in Linux - RH and Debian certainly and they're bright guys from what I've seen. They provide unmetered bandwidth on a shared connection and you can install whatever you want to install. I'm sure they'll help you with Apache - but not sure what their abilities are on TC - my guess is you'll get minimal help with TC setup or configuration - but hey use the TC list - it's great! After having grief with TC hosting (not tried kgbinternet, though!) - it seemed much easier to roll our own. We tested a Debian production server in-house with Apache, Tomcat and mod_ssl (for Apache) - with multiple domains for apache (and obviously TC). With full root access it has proved _much_ less grief than trying to get equivalent functionality from a dedicated TC hosting company - but maybe we are just awkward! Hope that helps, Hue. -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 August 2003 13:49 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Thanks for the advice Hue, you have given me a lot to go on there - much appreciated. Do memset.com actually support Apache/Tomcat? I couldn't quite see a reference to it under their products on there site. I have been considering http://www.nameonthe.net or http://www.joshuainternet.com Anybody know about them who can comment as to their suitability? Thanks again yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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R u kidding that's too costly ... U r not looking at right places ... How much are you expecting to pay for a shared machine with tomcat on? And is that with or without root access? I am not suggesting anything, but I am planning to do this myself and would like to find out prices. What I have looked at so far for root access costs 49 euros (= dollars almost) for 2GHz CPU with 256MB ram, 40 Gig HD 75 Gigs traffic per month. The next one up with 2.4GHz + 512RAM + 100Gig traffic is 99 euros / month. Adam -Original Message- From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers Have you considered running tomcat apache on your machine and getting your ISP to redirect to your machine at your premises. From: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:24:15 +0200 How much are you expecting to pay for a shared machine with tomcat on? And is that with or without root access? I am not suggesting anything, but I am planning to do this myself and would like to find out prices. What I have looked at so far for root access costs 49 euros (= dollars almost) for 2GHz CPU with 256MB ram, 40 Gig HD 75 Gigs traffic per month. The next one up with 2.4GHz + 512RAM + 100Gig traffic is 99 euros / month. Adam Philip Seay wrote: Yan, Jason Hunter has a list of reviewed sites at http://servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll Regards, Phil Seay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *-- This message and any attachment(s) is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended addressee(s), you are hereby notified that any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please erase all copies of the message and its attachment(s) and notify the sender or Kanbay postmaster immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and not of Kanbay. Although we have taken steps to ensure that this e-mail and any attachment(s) are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are actually virus free. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache Tomcat web servers
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Re: Apache Tomcat web servers
Security Manager enabled) all correctly setup! The real advantage is that this allows hosting of multiple domains; full root access; ability to host email if you need it; ability to choose JVM; ability to run apache to front tomcat if you want; ability to run own SSL-enabled service if needed; basically pretty much anything that you can figure-out how to do it! The obvious real downside is that with power comes responsibility and the responsibility is with you to ensure you don't leave the server wide-open to attack; leave an open mail relay; leave a host that can be commandeered in an attack etc. etc. But starting with modest objectives and building from there can get you the service you need without great cost and with full control - and if you're unsure there are plenty of resources from where help can be sought. Hope the above helps, Hue. -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 August 2003 00:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 04/08/2003 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 4.1.27 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 RH9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Adam, thanks for the comprehensive run-down on hosting. Perhaps you should get the company put on http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/hosts.html Yes, maybe - although they're not dedicated tomcat hosting. By the way Hue, you neglected to state one very important fact - how much the package at memset costs! Guess I'll have to check out the link ;) The package we use from memset cost us about £350 for 12 months hosting (there's 25% off for 12 months in advance) - which I think is a 96MB server with 6GB disk on a contended 1.5Mbps connection and Debian Linux - it has performed flawlessly. This works-out at about £30/month. This includes 2 ip addresses, unlimited domains, unlimited services: DNS, TC, Apache, PostgreSQL/MySQL, multiple JVMs, MX/POP3/IMAP services etc. etc. Maybe you can clear up something else for me - with full root access to a virtual server? What is virtual about it? Are you still sharing hardware with other customers? Yes - you do share hardware with other customers as memset use User Mode Linux, UML - see the following links for anyone not familiar with this amazing technology: http://www.usermodelinux.org/ (for the community homepage) http://uml.openconsultancy.com/ (great link from one who practices what he preaches! - also offers hosting services) http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ (sf project and very good links, too) As you might expect from Linux - UML is a very advanced, groundbreaking and seems an extremely stable and robust technology. It basically allows Linux to host multiple hosts on a slightly-patched hosting server. Each UML (virtual server) is totally self-contained and runs a full-blown version of Linux (with again, only a slightly patched kernel). Almost any Linux package can be installed on a UML without modification and to all intents and purposes behaves _exactly_ like a normal server. We have not seen any situations where any other UML has dominated the host and caused us to run slowly; also never had a server 'fail' and need hard re-booting; never had a situation where the virtual server has behaved any differently to a normal server. For us it works very well - we like flexibility of a dedicated server and we host several domains and we think we understand Debian Linux pretty well. We use it for email (qmail) with IMAP/SSL, Apache with mod_ssl (for SSL mode) and for multiple virtual hosts and Tomcat hosting under each domain and PostgreSQL for database storage. We could not now envisage going back to dedicated TC hosting only! Just as a caveat, I was talking online to a guy who ran tomcat online with unlimited traffic, and he got hacked somehow - he said he had unwittingly left some exploit in RedHat open - the cracker got in and used the bandwidth solid for 18 hours before he discovered it. Cost him 2 grand - eek! Eeek - yes, very scarey. At least with these types of packages the bandwidth is unmetered so it wouldn't actually cost you any more money!!! Ok, seriously though - yes, this is a big concern, but there are loads of resources for securing Linux servers and even great tools to test for common vulnerabilities, common exploits and common ports that should not be open! But, when I discovered our previous hosting company was running a very outdated TC installation - at least this way we are in control of the server configuration. We use long, complex passwords; _all_ maintenance traffic to and from the server is encrypted: Webmin/SSL, IMAP/SSL, SCP for FTP-type activities (over ssh); ssh for shell; all services not needed are disabled; PostgreSQL will only communicate with processes on the local server; Tomcat runs under a JSM ... the list goes on! We've tried pretty hard to be careful - who knows, hopefully we've made it difficult enough that someone will not waste effort trying to get in. I sleep more comfortably during the day - knowing we're in control of our server! Hope that bit more info helps, H. -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 August 2003 17:16 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi Hue, thanks for the comprehensive run-down on hosting. Perhaps you should get the company put on http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/hosts.html for the record. Actually it's a shame that there are no comments about the current hosting companies on that list. By the way Hue, you neglected to state one very important fact - how much the package at memset costs! Guess I'll have to check out the link ;) Maybe you can clear up something else for me - with full root access to a virtual server? What is virtual about it? Are you still sharing hardware with other customers? Just as a caveat, I was talking online to a guy who ran tomcat online with unlimited traffic, and he got hacked somehow - he said he had unwittingly left some exploit in RedHat open - the cracker got in and used the bandwidth solid for 18 hours before he
Apache Tomcat web servers
Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache Tomcat web servers
Thanks for the advice Hue, you have given me a lot to go on there - much appreciated. Do memset.com actually support Apache/Tomcat? I couldn't quite see a reference to it under their products on there site. I have been considering http://www.nameonthe.net or http://www.joshuainternet.com Anybody know about them who can comment as to their suitability? Thanks again yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Have you considered running tomcat apache on your machine and getting your ISP to redirect to your machine at your premises. From: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Apache Tomcat web servers Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:24:15 +0200 How much are you expecting to pay for a shared machine with tomcat on? And is that with or without root access? I am not suggesting anything, but I am planning to do this myself and would like to find out prices. What I have looked at so far for root access costs 49 euros (= dollars almost) for 2GHz CPU with 256MB ram, 40 Gig HD 75 Gigs traffic per month. The next one up with 2.4GHz + 512RAM + 100Gig traffic is 99 euros / month. Adam Philip Seay wrote: Yan, Jason Hunter has a list of reviewed sites at http://servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll Regards, Phil Seay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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due to may lack of experience, I am not sure if there are any implications if I host a UK based web application on a Web server based in the US or any other country. Also, what are the important features I should be looking for when making my decision - customer review and recommendations I suppose is a good starting point? thanks yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache Tomcat web servers
How much are you expecting to pay for a shared machine with tomcat on? And is that with or without root access? I am not suggesting anything, but I am planning to do this myself and would like to find out prices. What I have looked at so far for root access costs 49 euros (= dollars almost) for 2GHz CPU with 256MB ram, 40 Gig HD 75 Gigs traffic per month. The next one up with 2.4GHz + 512RAM + 100Gig traffic is 99 euros / month. Adam Philip Seay wrote: Yan, Jason Hunter has a list of reviewed sites at http://servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll Regards, Phil Seay mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: yan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Apache Tomcat web servers Hi, I am trying to find a Web host for my JSP applications, but I am finding it very difficult locating a suitable host. Anyone know of any good Web hosting vendors who support MySQl, Apache server and the Apache Tomcat servlet container? I prefer a UK based host as this is where I reside. I have had a response to an enquiry from a hosting company called 'Houxou '. This is what they have replied: Assuming Tomcat is well-behaved, I would have no problem running on our servers, but would need to investigate how happy it is to co-exist with two competitors on the same machine: Apache server pages; and Sun's Chilisoft ASP I am not sure what they mean Any advice would be gratefully received yan KickStartESolutions - Intelligent Web Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
