Re: BEER = GOOD : EJB = bad = MS.net

2002-02-24 Thread Edward Q. Bridges


ok, i promise i will:
  1. stop using obscure, hairy acronyms.
  2. cease and desist from OT EJB references (oops! there i go, i broke #1.  
no more.  i promise!).
  3. drink at *least* one beer.

:)

i hope you all had a fine weekend!

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:09:58 -0800, Eugene Neymark wrote:

 IMNSHO = In My Not So Humble Opinion




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BEER = GOOD : EJB = bad = MS.net

2002-02-22 Thread Eugene Neymark


- Original Message -
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 I think I was better off not sending that last email,
 especially on a Friday.  :)
 Thanks for education.

 - Malcolm

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TGIF
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 == Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

  -Original Message-
  From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:57 PM
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   ROTFLMAO!
 
  Mark
 
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  From: Wes Bramhall
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  Sent: 2/22/02 2:52 PM
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  But it's Friday now, so SSS is allowed, right?
 
  (SSS = Small Scale Spamming)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:45 PM
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  I thought we had abandoned this thread in
favor of Struts related
  questions
  =)
 
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  From: David Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   I'm staying out of this discussion, but
to answer your question --
  
   IMNSHO = In My Not So Humble Opinion
  
   --David
  
   On Friday 22 February 2002 01:03 pm, you wrote:
IMNSHO?  What the hell is that?  Man,
the colloquial shortcuts are
  getting
hairy these days :)
   
-Original Message-
From: Edward Q. Bridges
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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:15 AM
To: dIon Gillard; Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: EJB = bad = MS.net
   
   
location independence means
independent of location,
  that is all.
   
if you're implementing two interfaces
to do (more or
  less) the exact
  same
thing, and one is called local and
one is called
  remote that is
absolutely *not*, by any stretch of
the imagination,  location
independent. _end of story_.
   
with EJBs the method call does not
appear to be remote,
  because it
  is
*explicitly* remote.  the method is in
a RemoteInterface and
  throws a
RemoteException for crying out loud!
   
furthermore, it's not about box1 vs
box12.  to be more
  precise, it's
  about
vm1 vs. vm12.  and, if you are writing
a client, your client has
  business
logic to take care of.  it's the
servers responsibility
  to determine
whether it should call a method at vm1
or at vm12.
   
IMNSHO, this is the achilles heel of EJB.
   
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:24:22 +1100,
dIon Gillard wrote:
The method call can take place
anywhere, but always appears to be
remote. That could be many remote
machines though. Location
  independence
is not about local vs remote, it's
more about box1 vs box12.
  
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