R: Hi I'm totally new, yes a total idiot on STRUTS ;-) but a free guy

2001-12-17 Thread Samuele Brignoli

Yes I can buy of course. But Who can tell me that tomorrow you at jcorporate
make me pay 20.000 $ for Expresso. In that case I can' t move away to ensure
my applications still works. I use Java hoping to be free from platforms and
sqlservers and app servers etc. Why do I have to purchase Expresso? I have
doubt also on Java and more on struts and a lot more on Expresso. I can code
a simpler content manager all by myself in JSP. I can enjoy a lot. And be
free ( maybe ). Sometimes reinventing the wheel is not so bad.

--kako

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Samuele,

snip
 The second is to put up a sort of content-manager with role-based
 authentication to permit to my customers to publish datas without HTML or
 similar knowledge... and maybe some reusable code and configuration
 written by some goog guy ?

How about a jump start and be a hero? There is a content-manager that can do
this called eContent built on Expresso/Struts with full Java source code
available from www.jcorporate.com at an affordable price.

Cheers
Sandra Cann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Hi I'm totally new, yes a total idiot on STRUTS ;-)

2001-12-14 Thread Samuele Brignoli

Hi all,
I'm totally new on jakarta-struts. As you surely know I've got a mountain of
documentation on my desk and I can't figure out where to start. I've got
JBuilder 5 Enterprise and I' ve got an Oracle db. I' ve got a couple of
things to do in my existence. The first is to write an e-commerce
application suitable for all my customers and really easy to maintain and
customize. The second is to put up a sort of content-manager with role-based
authentication to permit to my customers to publish datas without HTML or
similar knowledge... I know, these are the things that all want !!! ;-) But
can you help me in some way to better and quickly understand this
interesting way of coding, and maybe some reusable code and configuration
written by some goog guy ? I need only a couple of directive to suitable
begin my trip in this adventure. Can you help me ?

bye, kako --


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RE: Hi I'm totally new, yes a total idiot on STRUTS ;-)

2001-12-14 Thread Jon.Ridgway

Hi Samuele,

A good starting point might be the examples on Ted Husteds site; see
http://husted.com/struts/resources.htm#projects. The link to the Sonic
example on the Bluestone site might be of interest.

Jon.



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From: Samuele Brignoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 14 December 2001 09:27
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Subject: Hi I'm totally new, yes a total idiot on STRUTS ;-)

Hi all,
I'm totally new on jakarta-struts. As you surely know I've got a mountain of
documentation on my desk and I can't figure out where to start. I've got
JBuilder 5 Enterprise and I' ve got an Oracle db. I' ve got a couple of
things to do in my existence. The first is to write an e-commerce
application suitable for all my customers and really easy to maintain and
customize. The second is to put up a sort of content-manager with role-based
authentication to permit to my customers to publish datas without HTML or
similar knowledge... I know, these are the things that all want !!! ;-) But
can you help me in some way to better and quickly understand this
interesting way of coding, and maybe some reusable code and configuration
written by some goog guy ? I need only a couple of directive to suitable
begin my trip in this adventure. Can you help me ?

bye, kako --


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Re: Hi I'm totally new, yes a total idiot on STRUTS ;-)

2001-12-14 Thread Linnea Ahlbeck

Hi!

I have a link to good article to start with, gives a good overview. Examples
are included!

Check:
http://www7.software.ibm.com/vad.nsf/data/document2557?OpenDocumentp=1BCT=
1Footer=1


/Linnéa


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From: Samuele Brignoli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Hi I'm totally new, yes a total idiot on STRUTS ;-)


 Hi all,
 I'm totally new on jakarta-struts. As you surely know I've got a mountain
of
 documentation on my desk and I can't figure out where to start. I've got
 JBuilder 5 Enterprise and I' ve got an Oracle db. I' ve got a couple of
 things to do in my existence. The first is to write an e-commerce
 application suitable for all my customers and really easy to maintain and
 customize. The second is to put up a sort of content-manager with
role-based
 authentication to permit to my customers to publish datas without HTML or
 similar knowledge... I know, these are the things that all want !!! ;-)
But
 can you help me in some way to better and quickly understand this
 interesting way of coding, and maybe some reusable code and configuration
 written by some goog guy ? I need only a couple of directive to suitable
 begin my trip in this adventure. Can you help me ?

 bye, kako --


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Re: Hi I'm totally new, yes a total idiot on STRUTS ;-)

2001-12-14 Thread Pete Carapetyan

 I' ve got a couple of
 things to do in my existence. The first is to write an e-commerce
 application suitable for all my customers and really easy to maintain and
 customize. The second is to put up a sort of content-manager with role-based
 authentication to permit to my customers to publish datas without HTML or
 similar knowledge... I know, these are the things that all want !!! ;-) But
 can you help me in some way to better and quickly understand this
 interesting way of coding, and maybe some reusable code and configuration
 written by some goog guy ? I need only a couple of directive to suitable
 begin my trip in this adventure. Can you help me ?

Kako, you have enough work on this list for at least a weekend or two.

If you get lazy, and just want to start with a java code base that is already
written for custom database access and logins and registrations  and security and
testing and logging and so on, try Expresso. Here, you can concentrate on the
business logic and navigation, instead of the plumbing, as some of us crazier
folks are doing. This is, of course, a Struts implementation.

Or, if you get really REALLY lazy and crazy, and want your base Expresso code
written for you, go to
http://webAppWriter.com
put in your table schemas using an Excel spreadsheet, and it will send you back
fully functional data access struts jsps and controllers that you can then modify
and stitch together per your own brilliant business logic and navigation.

So far, the speed record for a complete write and deployment of a functional web
app with custom table schemas is 9 and a half minutes, but your time will surely
vary. 30 plus samples on the site.

Obviously, this will cause as many problems as it solves, because you will still
have to learn how everything works. At least, this way, you can learn from a
working model that reads and writes to your database, rather than having to
invent it all first.


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RE: Hi I'm totally new, yes a total idiot on STRUTS ;-)

2001-12-14 Thread Sandra Cann

Samuele,

snip
 The second is to put up a sort of content-manager with role-based
 authentication to permit to my customers to publish datas without HTML or
 similar knowledge... and maybe some reusable code and configuration
 written by some goog guy ?

How about a jump start and be a hero? There is a content-manager that can do
this called eContent built on Expresso/Struts with full Java source code
available from www.jcorporate.com at an affordable price.

Cheers
Sandra Cann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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