RE: JSF RI Final is out!
great collection of ressoruces.
Thanks a lot
Alexander
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From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Freitag, 5. März 2004 06:25
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi Janarthan,
There are several books available and/or coming available shortly for JSF.
I have put together a comprehensive list of resources for JavaServer Faces
on my website at:
http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/
Hope that helps,
-James
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From: Janarthan Sathiamurthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:19 AM
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi,
How do i get started wiith JSF ?.
Any books ?
Please advice
Regards,
Janarthan S
Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:14 AM
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Well its great to know the word is spreading...
..soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
'THE' thing i required...
Thanks James !!!
Regards,
Janarthan S
James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Janarthan,
There are several books available and/or coming available shortly for JSF.
I have put together a comprehensive list of resources for JavaServer Faces
on my website at:
http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/
Hope that helps,
-James
-Original Message-
From: Janarthan Sathiamurthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:19 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi,
How do i get started wiith JSF ?.
Any books ?
Please advice
Regards,
Janarthan S
Hookom, Jacob wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. /snip Funny you say that, as I could have sworn I saw one a month or so ago over at the Clementi bookshop. I recall not looking closely at it as the RI wasnt out yet afaik so I figured the book would have to be based on a beta or something and I did already have my arms full of more books than I could rightly afford to buy at the time. (Im like a kid in a candy store at that shop!). Of course I could just have been blur that day and mistaken the letters JSP for JSF... but hmmm, I dunno mate - I reckon I saw one. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:15 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
There are books available today. The McGraw Hill book came out weeks ago and I believe the APress book is out too. However, these books are probably out of date due to the fact that the spec wasn't finalized when the books were published. Also, there are a total of 10 or so books in progress or done. You can find the list on my website at: http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/ -James snip No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. /snip Funny you say that, as I could have sworn I saw one a month or so ago over at the Clementi bookshop. I recall not looking closely at it as the RI wasnt out yet afaik so I figured the book would have to be based on a beta or something and I did already have my arms full of more books than I could rightly afford to buy at the time. (Im like a kid in a candy store at that shop!). Of course I could just have been blur that day and mistaken the letters JSP for JSF... but hmmm, I dunno mate - I reckon I saw one. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:15 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Thanks James, Im hoping I'll get a chance to take a look at it all as soon as I finish the project Im on right now (which is keeping me rather busy!) I had a look at a much earlier version of the JSF spec quite a while back and remember getting all excited about the component tree stuff and rendering kits and all that. Hoping to get a chance to download the RI sometime and play with it. Maybe even try and whack together some code to make the DOM based rendering library I wrote play nice with JSF. Andrew -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! There are books available today. The McGraw Hill book came out weeks ago and I believe the APress book is out too. However, these books are probably out of date due to the fact that the spec wasn't finalized when the books were published. Also, there are a total of 10 or so books in progress or done. You can find the list on my website at: http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/ -James snip No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. /snip Funny you say that, as I could have sworn I saw one a month or so ago over at the Clementi bookshop. I recall not looking closely at it as the RI wasnt out yet afaik so I figured the book would have to be based on a beta or something and I did already have my arms full of more books than I could rightly afford to buy at the time. (Im like a kid in a candy store at that shop!). Of course I could just have been blur that day and mistaken the letters JSP for JSF... but hmmm, I dunno mate - I reckon I saw one. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:15 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JSF RI Final is out!
Btw, Craig, thank you very much for removing those underscores. Hubert --- Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
About a month ago I picked up Java Server Faces Programming by Budi Kurniawan (McGraw Hill). I haven't read through it yet though, so I can't say if it's any good or not. It just showed up on that darned Amazon suggestion page and I picked it up. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
I bought that book, it's a good one, I read it over a weekend, but when you go to download the examples, the way you handle commands has since changed. Probably 80%+ of the book is still correct but the sample CarStore app from Sun is your best model for development. It does a good job of mixing ways to execute operations or handle situations. -Original Message- From: Paul, R. Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:12 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! About a month ago I picked up Java Server Faces Programming by Budi Kurniawan (McGraw Hill). I haven't read through it yet though, so I can't say if it's any good or not. It just showed up on that darned Amazon suggestion page and I picked it up. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] JSF RI Final is out!
Quoting Hubert Rabago [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Btw, Craig, thank you very much for removing those underscores. Let's just say that you weren't the only person that didn't like them :-). Hubert Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If 'less than 24hrs' counts as new, then it probably is. HTH, -- Chris. - Original Message - From: Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How steep's the learning curve on JSF? Is it as big as it is for struts? On 03/04/2004 11:39 AM Christian Bollmeyer wrote: If 'less than 24hrs' counts as new, then it probably is. HTH, -- Chris. - Original Message - From: Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 5.0.16 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 Debian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well its great to know the word is spreading... ...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha ...I need some sleep :-( -Original Message- From: Dietmar Krause [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2004 22:18 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Return Receipt Your document:RE: JSF RI Final is out! was received by: Dietmar Krause/NRL/DE/Draeger at: 04.03.2004 15:14:56 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Andrew Hill wrote: Well its great to know the word is spreading... ...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha ...I need some sleep :-( But definitely..! Good night..:) Geeta - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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Will it be OpenSource? (Banten)
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I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Yeah, package is org.apache.banten.*
I just ran some benchmarks for bean properties and method invocation through
EL, and my version of the EL parser is running about 5 times faster, for
bean property invocation. For straight method invocation (a replacement of
the MethodUtils in Commons Bean Utils) it executes about 10-20 times faster
and handles fuzzy best method lookup. I should almost release the
expression parser separately.
-Jake
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From: Hookom, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2004 00:18
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Another EL parser eh?
Does it need a JSPContext? or can be used in servlets too?
If so I would be very very interested in seeing you release it :-)
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Sent: Friday, 5 March 2004 00:36
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Yeah, package is org.apache.banten.*
I just ran some benchmarks for bean properties and method invocation through
EL, and my version of the EL parser is running about 5 times faster, for
bean property invocation. For straight method invocation (a replacement of
the MethodUtils in Commons Bean Utils) it executes about 10-20 times faster
and handles fuzzy best method lookup. I should almost release the
expression parser separately.
-Jake
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:25 AM
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Will it be OpenSource? (Banten)
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From: Hookom, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2004 00:18
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
It just uses an interface called VariableRegistry. So it's not JSP
dependent (doesn't need any J2EE API's). It's not exactly EL, it's EL, but
instead of JSP 2.0 function invocation, you can call any method on an object
through : like There are #{order.lineItems:size} in your order.
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Another EL parser eh?
Does it need a JSPContext? or can be used in servlets too?
If so I would be very very interested in seeing you release it :-)
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From: Hookom, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2004 00:36
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Yeah, package is org.apache.banten.*
I just ran some benchmarks for bean properties and method invocation through
EL, and my version of the EL parser is running about 5 times faster, for
bean property invocation. For straight method invocation (a replacement of
the MethodUtils in Commons Bean Utils) it executes about 10-20 times faster
and handles fuzzy best method lookup. I should almost release the
expression parser separately.
-Jake
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Hookom, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2004 00:18
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Quoting Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It just uses an interface called VariableRegistry. So it's not JSP
dependent (doesn't need any J2EE API's). It's not exactly EL, it's EL, but
instead of JSP 2.0 function invocation, you can call any method on an object
through : like There are #{order.lineItems:size} in your order.
Off topic for the thread about Banten, but the JavaServer Faces expression
language functionality can be used from a servlet (or an event handler), as
well as in JSP pages. See the javax.faces.el.ValueBinding and
javax.faces.el.MethodBinding classes, and the corresponding factory methods in
javax.faces.application.Application.
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
1.0 *final* version Why are there '*'s around the word 'final' ? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 05 March, 2004 2:03 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF RI Final is out!
for emphasis Daniel Joshua wrote: 1.0 *final* version Why are there '*'s around the word 'final' ? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 05 March, 2004 2:03 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Because the previous ones were 1.0 RCx (Release Candidate x). --- Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.0 *final* version Why are there '*'s around the word 'final' ? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 05 March, 2004 2:03 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oops, yeah, that was part of my point, though I forgot to add it. :) To emphasize that the download is 1.0 final, not 1.0 RC1. --- Paul Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for emphasis Daniel Joshua wrote: 1.0 *final* version Why are there '*'s around the word 'final' ? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 05 March, 2004 2:03 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi,
How do i get started wiith JSF ?.
Any books ?
Please advice
Regards,
Janarthan S
Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
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...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi Janarthan,
There are several books available and/or coming available shortly for JSF.
I have put together a comprehensive list of resources for JavaServer Faces
on my website at:
http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/
Hope that helps,
-James
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From: Janarthan Sathiamurthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi,
How do i get started wiith JSF ?.
Any books ?
Please advice
Regards,
Janarthan S
Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:14 AM
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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