Re: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
I find having the source available is VERY useful when developing a struts-based application. When writing your own tags it's nice to see how Struts does it as an example. Alan Yackel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Creatrixs Inc. Mac Ferguson wrote: > on a utility note, having the source available allows me to step into struts > code while debugging using an IDE... > > -Original Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 4:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions? > > As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! :-), one of the > things I am cleaning up is the way that binary distributions are > packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta pattern of including > the source code for Struts in the binary distribution (in the "etc", > "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a separate download. > > My question is, do people find the fact that the binary distribution > includes source code useful, or would it be OK to just point you at the > download URL for the source distribution if you want it? For recent > builds, this would cut the size of the binary distribution by about one > third. > > I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get some feedback from > the community before making a final decision. > > Craig
RE: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
EXTREMELY useful!! Please continue to do so. It allows me to go beyond the User Guide and Javadocs to understand how things work and so how to make them work for me. Thanks! Scott > -Original Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions? > > > As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! :-), one of the > things I am cleaning up is the way that binary distributions are > packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta pattern > of including > the source code for Struts in the binary distribution (in the "etc", > "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a separate download. > > My question is, do people find the fact that the binary distribution > includes source code useful, or would it be OK to just point > you at the > download URL for the source distribution if you want it? For recent > builds, this would cut the size of the binary distribution by > about one > third. > > I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get some > feedback from > the community before making a final decision. > > Craig > >
RE: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
on a utility note, having the source available allows me to step into struts code while debugging using an IDE... -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions? As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! :-), one of the things I am cleaning up is the way that binary distributions are packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta pattern of including the source code for Struts in the binary distribution (in the "etc", "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a separate download. My question is, do people find the fact that the binary distribution includes source code useful, or would it be OK to just point you at the download URL for the source distribution if you want it? For recent builds, this would cut the size of the binary distribution by about one third. I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get some feedback from the community before making a final decision. Craig
Re: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
Hi i am getting the following error using the Resource file. Has anyone come across this error. Missing message for key hello.title: My JSp file uses the bean.tld and is as follows: This is my setting in the web.xml file: * action org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet application app.ApplicationResources config /WEB-INF/struts-config.xml debug 2 detail 2 validate true 1 And my ApplicationResources.properties file is under the following directory structure: * WEB-INF/classes/app/ApplicationResources.properties And i still can find the hello.title key in the properties file. could anyone help. thanx sampath __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
I would prefer to have the source available. I like the ease doing an installation without having to run a build, and the ability to look at the source if anything goes wrong. I'd suggest jaring up the source in a src.jar, like the JDK. Calvin --- Wong Kok Wai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just the binary with docs and examples (with > sources). > Thanks! > > --- "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts > (really! > > :-), one of the > > things I am cleaning up is the way that binary > > distributions are > > packaged. Currently, we follow the typical > Jakarta > > pattern of including > > the source code for Struts in the binary > > distribution (in the "etc", > > "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a > > separate download. > > > > My question is, do people find the fact that the > > binary distribution > > includes source code useful, or would it be OK to > > just point you at the > > download URL for the source distribution if you > want > > it? For recent > > builds, this would cut the size of the binary > > distribution by about one > > third. > > > > I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to > get > > some feedback from > > the community before making a final decision. > > > > Craig > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
RE: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
binaries including source is perfect. I can get everything in one download instead of multiple downloads. Thanks, Amar.. -Original Message- From: Wong Kok Wai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 9:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions? Just the binary with docs and examples (with sources). Thanks! --- "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! > :-), one of the > things I am cleaning up is the way that binary > distributions are > packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta > pattern of including > the source code for Struts in the binary > distribution (in the "etc", > "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a > separate download. > > My question is, do people find the fact that the > binary distribution > includes source code useful, or would it be OK to > just point you at the > download URL for the source distribution if you want > it? For recent > builds, this would cut the size of the binary > distribution by about one > third. > > I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get > some feedback from > the community before making a final decision. > > Craig > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
Just the binary with docs and examples (with sources). Thanks! --- "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! > :-), one of the > things I am cleaning up is the way that binary > distributions are > packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta > pattern of including > the source code for Struts in the binary > distribution (in the "etc", > "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a > separate download. > > My question is, do people find the fact that the > binary distribution > includes source code useful, or would it be OK to > just point you at the > download URL for the source distribution if you want > it? For recent > builds, this would cut the size of the binary > distribution by about one > third. > > I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get > some feedback from > the community before making a final decision. > > Craig > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
RE: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
>From: "Iraklis Kourtidis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >2) The source for the struts-example sample application (although not part >of the source code you're likely talking about) was to me the >most useful resource in understanding Struts. Any other example I found on >the web was highly confusing and/or incomplete (including the 'resources' >section of the Jakarta Struts home page.) > This is, IMHO, really, really important. If it turns out that the source code of the example application will be removed from the binary package, you should make it really clear in the documentation and in the application itself that the source code is available in another package. It would be good anyway to add a reference to this source code on all the pages of the example application or in the "walking tour of the example applcation". The example application source code was the main ressource I used to learn Struts. Even if the documentation is comprehensive and of a very good quality I was unable to use it to *learn* Struts. It became useful afterwards, as a reference. I'm afraid that if it's difficult for new users to find the example application, some of them might just give up and try something else. Gael _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Dzenan Ridjanovic wrote: > OK to just point at the download URL for the source distribution if you want > it! +1
Re: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
OK to just point at the download URL for the source distribution if you want it! "Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: > As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! :-), one of the > things I am cleaning up is the way that binary distributions are > packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta pattern of including > the source code for Struts in the binary distribution (in the "etc", > "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a separate download. > > My question is, do people find the fact that the binary distribution > includes source code useful, or would it be OK to just point you at the > download URL for the source distribution if you want it? For recent > builds, this would cut the size of the binary distribution by about one > third. > > I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get some feedback from > the community before making a final decision. > > Craig -- Dzenan Ridjanovic http://drdb.fsa.ulaval.ca/
RE: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
Hi Craig, IMHO the source code is useful, at least in the following circumstances: 1) some weird error occurs (because a struts user writes bad code), and the line numbers for a file are given. Sometimes looking at the source helps understand what the heck is going on in your own code and how to fix it. 2) The source for the struts-example sample application (although not part of the source code you're likely talking about) was to me the most useful resource in understanding Struts. Any other example I found on the web was highly confusing and/or incomplete (including the 'resources' section of the Jakarta Struts home page.) In either case though, as long as the code is still downloadable there won't be any problem. my 2 cents, Iraklis -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions? As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! :-), one of the things I am cleaning up is the way that binary distributions are packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta pattern of including the source code for Struts in the binary distribution (in the "etc", "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a separate download. My question is, do people find the fact that the binary distribution includes source code useful, or would it be OK to just point you at the download URL for the source distribution if you want it? For recent builds, this would cut the size of the binary distribution by about one third. I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get some feedback from the community before making a final decision. Craig
Re: Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
I like having the source with the binary distribution. I would just download both if they were separate. David --- "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! > :-), one of the > things I am cleaning up is the way that binary > distributions are > packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta > pattern of including > the source code for Struts in the binary > distribution (in the "etc", > "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a > separate download. > > My question is, do people find the fact that the > binary distribution > includes source code useful, or would it be OK to > just point you at the > download URL for the source distribution if you want > it? For recent > builds, this would cut the size of the binary > distribution by about one > third. > > I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get > some feedback from > the community before making a final decision. > > Craig > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Packaging Question - Include Source in Binary Distributions?
As we move towards a 1.0 release of Struts (really! :-), one of the things I am cleaning up is the way that binary distributions are packaged. Currently, we follow the typical Jakarta pattern of including the source code for Struts in the binary distribution (in the "etc", "src", and "web" directories), as well as in a separate download. My question is, do people find the fact that the binary distribution includes source code useful, or would it be OK to just point you at the download URL for the source distribution if you want it? For recent builds, this would cut the size of the binary distribution by about one third. I'm fine with doing it either way, but wanted to get some feedback from the community before making a final decision. Craig
