RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec
You can still use Tomcat. Servlets have always been part of the J2EE spec. You can still use Tomcat. I have deployed Servlet 2.4/JSP 2.0 apps in Tomcat 5.0.4 successfully. HTH, Matt -Original Message- From: Vijay Balakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:53 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec Hi, I just attended a conference this weekend.A speaker mentioned that with the Servlet 2.4 spec, Servlets are being tied to the J2EE environment.I would like to know in what way ? Also,does this mean that we can't use Tomcat anymore ?? Thanks, Vijay - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec
Here is a copy of an email which you should find more informative and clear. On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, objectworlds wrote: Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:51:01 +0100 From: objectworlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts - j2ee compliant To use struts framework does the server have to be J2EE compliant ? To use Struts your container has to implement the Servlet 2.2 Specification (which is part of J2EE 1.2) or later. If you're using JSP pages, your container must also support JSP 1.1 (also part of J2EE 1.2) or later. Any J2EE 1.2 or later container will therefore support Struts. However, Struts itself does not require any J2EE capabilities other than Servlet or JSP. if so is that the case for model 1 model 2 ? Model 1 and Model 2 have nothing to do with J2EE compliant or not. They describe architectural approaches to building web applications, and appy no matter what technology you are using. Is tomcat always J2EE compliant ? Tomcat implements the Servlet and JSP specs, but is not a complete J2EE container. The first digit of the Tomcat version number tells you which versions: * Tomcat 3.x -- Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 * Tomcat 4.x -- Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 * Tomcat 5.x -- Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 As you can see from the above description, though, Tomcat can be used to execute Struts based appications. Craig From: Raible, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:15:01 -0600 You can still use Tomcat. Servlets have always been part of the J2EE spec. You can still use Tomcat. I have deployed Servlet 2.4/JSP 2.0 apps in Tomcat 5.0.4 successfully. HTH, Matt -Original Message- From: Vijay Balakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:53 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec Hi, I just attended a conference this weekend.A speaker mentioned that with the Servlet 2.4 spec, Servlets are being tied to the J2EE environment.I would like to know in what way ? Also,does this mean that we can't use Tomcat anymore ?? Thanks, Vijay - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec
One of my original question was : I would like to know in what way the Servlets were tied more closely to the J2EE EJB world in the new spec ? Does It mean there are hidden dependencies ? I do know that Servlets are part of the J2EE spec. -Original Message- From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec Imagine spending a weekend being mis informed. Waste of time Waste of money. All you had to do was send an email here. :) From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:23:57 +0400 Here is a copy of an email which you should find more informative and clear. On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, objectworlds wrote: Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 21:51:01 +0100 From: objectworlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts - j2ee compliant To use struts framework does the server have to be J2EE compliant ? To use Struts your container has to implement the Servlet 2.2 Specification (which is part of J2EE 1.2) or later. If you're using JSP pages, your container must also support JSP 1.1 (also part of J2EE 1.2) or later. Any J2EE 1.2 or later container will therefore support Struts. However, Struts itself does not require any J2EE capabilities other than Servlet or JSP. if so is that the case for model 1 model 2 ? Model 1 and Model 2 have nothing to do with J2EE compliant or not. They describe architectural approaches to building web applications, and appy no matter what technology you are using. Is tomcat always J2EE compliant ? Tomcat implements the Servlet and JSP specs, but is not a complete J2EE container. The first digit of the Tomcat version number tells you which versions: * Tomcat 3.x -- Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 * Tomcat 4.x -- Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 * Tomcat 5.x -- Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 As you can see from the above description, though, Tomcat can be used to execute Struts based appications. Craig From: Raible, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:15:01 -0600 You can still use Tomcat. Servlets have always been part of the J2EE spec. You can still use Tomcat. I have deployed Servlet 2.4/JSP 2.0 apps in Tomcat 5.0.4 successfully. HTH, Matt -Original Message- From: Vijay Balakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 10:53 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec Hi, I just attended a conference this weekend.A speaker mentioned that with the Servlet 2.4 spec, Servlets are being tied to the J2EE environment.I would like to know in what way ? Also,does this mean that we can't use Tomcat anymore ?? Thanks, Vijay - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Servlets tied to J2EE in new spec
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Vijay Balakrishnan wrote: One of my original question was : I would like to know in what way the Servlets were tied more closely to the J2EE EJB world in the new spec ? Does It mean there are hidden dependencies ? I do know that Servlets are part of the J2EE spec. The dependency has *not* changed -- it is (and always has been) that a container that wants to implement J2EE has to implement Servlet. The servlet spec has since 2.2 had some optional requirements (lke suppoting a JNDI naming context) that were only required inside a J2EE app server. But again, this is nothing new. Without knowing precisely what the speaker you alluded to actually said, it's not possible to provide any more definitive response to your question. Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
