RE: JSF RI Final is out!
great collection of ressoruces.
Thanks a lot
Alexander
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From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Freitag, 5. März 2004 06:25
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi Janarthan,
There are several books available and/or coming available shortly for JSF.
I have put together a comprehensive list of resources for JavaServer Faces
on my website at:
http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/
Hope that helps,
-James
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From: Janarthan Sathiamurthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:19 AM
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi,
How do i get started wiith JSF ?.
Any books ?
Please advice
Regards,
Janarthan S
Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Well its great to know the word is spreading...
..soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
'THE' thing i required...
Thanks James !!!
Regards,
Janarthan S
James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Janarthan,
There are several books available and/or coming available shortly for JSF.
I have put together a comprehensive list of resources for JavaServer Faces
on my website at:
http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/
Hope that helps,
-James
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From: Janarthan Sathiamurthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:19 AM
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi,
How do i get started wiith JSF ?.
Any books ?
Please advice
Regards,
Janarthan S
Hookom, Jacob wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. /snip Funny you say that, as I could have sworn I saw one a month or so ago over at the Clementi bookshop. I recall not looking closely at it as the RI wasnt out yet afaik so I figured the book would have to be based on a beta or something and I did already have my arms full of more books than I could rightly afford to buy at the time. (Im like a kid in a candy store at that shop!). Of course I could just have been blur that day and mistaken the letters JSP for JSF... but hmmm, I dunno mate - I reckon I saw one. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:15 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
There are books available today. The McGraw Hill book came out weeks ago and I believe the APress book is out too. However, these books are probably out of date due to the fact that the spec wasn't finalized when the books were published. Also, there are a total of 10 or so books in progress or done. You can find the list on my website at: http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/ -James snip No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. /snip Funny you say that, as I could have sworn I saw one a month or so ago over at the Clementi bookshop. I recall not looking closely at it as the RI wasnt out yet afaik so I figured the book would have to be based on a beta or something and I did already have my arms full of more books than I could rightly afford to buy at the time. (Im like a kid in a candy store at that shop!). Of course I could just have been blur that day and mistaken the letters JSP for JSF... but hmmm, I dunno mate - I reckon I saw one. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:15 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Thanks James, Im hoping I'll get a chance to take a look at it all as soon as I finish the project Im on right now (which is keeping me rather busy!) I had a look at a much earlier version of the JSF spec quite a while back and remember getting all excited about the component tree stuff and rendering kits and all that. Hoping to get a chance to download the RI sometime and play with it. Maybe even try and whack together some code to make the DOM based rendering library I wrote play nice with JSF. Andrew -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! There are books available today. The McGraw Hill book came out weeks ago and I believe the APress book is out too. However, these books are probably out of date due to the fact that the spec wasn't finalized when the books were published. Also, there are a total of 10 or so books in progress or done. You can find the list on my website at: http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/ -James snip No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. /snip Funny you say that, as I could have sworn I saw one a month or so ago over at the Clementi bookshop. I recall not looking closely at it as the RI wasnt out yet afaik so I figured the book would have to be based on a beta or something and I did already have my arms full of more books than I could rightly afford to buy at the time. (Im like a kid in a candy store at that shop!). Of course I could just have been blur that day and mistaken the letters JSP for JSF... but hmmm, I dunno mate - I reckon I saw one. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 02:15 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
About a month ago I picked up Java Server Faces Programming by Budi Kurniawan (McGraw Hill). I haven't read through it yet though, so I can't say if it's any good or not. It just showed up on that darned Amazon suggestion page and I picked it up. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
I bought that book, it's a good one, I read it over a weekend, but when you go to download the examples, the way you handle commands has since changed. Probably 80%+ of the book is still correct but the sample CarStore app from Sun is your best model for development. It does a good job of mixing ways to execute operations or handle situations. -Original Message- From: Paul, R. Chip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:12 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! About a month ago I picked up Java Server Faces Programming by Budi Kurniawan (McGraw Hill). I haven't read through it yet though, so I can't say if it's any good or not. It just showed up on that darned Amazon suggestion page and I picked it up. -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Janarthan Sathiamurthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, How do i get started wiith JSF ?. Any books ? Please advice JavaServer Faces Home Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Download Page: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html Support Forum (free registration required): http://forums.java.sun.com/forum.jsp?forum=427 The download includes some example applications that illustrate its use. An update to the JavaServer Faces Tutorial is in progress, and will be posted shortly. No books have been published about JavaServer Faces yet (to my knowledge), although I know of at least five that are nearing completion, and should be published very soon. Nightly builds of an integation library for using JavaServer Faces and Struts together are available, but it's still based on the beta version. I'm debugging the updates as I type, and will post messages here when the nightly builds have been updated to work with the final version. Regards, Janarthan S Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If 'less than 24hrs' counts as new, then it probably is. HTH, -- Chris. - Original Message - From: Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How steep's the learning curve on JSF? Is it as big as it is for struts? On 03/04/2004 11:39 AM Christian Bollmeyer wrote: If 'less than 24hrs' counts as new, then it probably is. HTH, -- Chris. - Original Message - From: Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 5.0.16 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 Debian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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Will it be OpenSource? (Banten)
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I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Yeah, package is org.apache.banten.*
I just ran some benchmarks for bean properties and method invocation through
EL, and my version of the EL parser is running about 5 times faster, for
bean property invocation. For straight method invocation (a replacement of
the MethodUtils in Commons Bean Utils) it executes about 10-20 times faster
and handles fuzzy best method lookup. I should almost release the
expression parser separately.
-Jake
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I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Another EL parser eh?
Does it need a JSPContext? or can be used in servlets too?
If so I would be very very interested in seeing you release it :-)
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Yeah, package is org.apache.banten.*
I just ran some benchmarks for bean properties and method invocation through
EL, and my version of the EL parser is running about 5 times faster, for
bean property invocation. For straight method invocation (a replacement of
the MethodUtils in Commons Bean Utils) it executes about 10-20 times faster
and handles fuzzy best method lookup. I should almost release the
expression parser separately.
-Jake
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Will it be OpenSource? (Banten)
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From: Hookom, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
It just uses an interface called VariableRegistry. So it's not JSP
dependent (doesn't need any J2EE API's). It's not exactly EL, it's EL, but
instead of JSP 2.0 function invocation, you can call any method on an object
through : like There are #{order.lineItems:size} in your order.
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Another EL parser eh?
Does it need a JSPContext? or can be used in servlets too?
If so I would be very very interested in seeing you release it :-)
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Yeah, package is org.apache.banten.*
I just ran some benchmarks for bean properties and method invocation through
EL, and my version of the EL parser is running about 5 times faster, for
bean property invocation. For straight method invocation (a replacement of
the MethodUtils in Commons Bean Utils) it executes about 10-20 times faster
and handles fuzzy best method lookup. I should almost release the
expression parser separately.
-Jake
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Will it be OpenSource? (Banten)
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From: Hookom, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2004 00:18
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Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out!
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Quoting Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It just uses an interface called VariableRegistry. So it's not JSP
dependent (doesn't need any J2EE API's). It's not exactly EL, it's EL, but
instead of JSP 2.0 function invocation, you can call any method on an object
through : like There are #{order.lineItems:size} in your order.
Off topic for the thread about Banten, but the JavaServer Faces expression
language functionality can be used from a servlet (or an event handler), as
well as in JSP pages. See the javax.faces.el.ValueBinding and
javax.faces.el.MethodBinding classes, and the corresponding factory methods in
javax.faces.application.Application.
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
1.0 *final* version Why are there '*'s around the word 'final' ? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 05 March, 2004 2:03 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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for emphasis Daniel Joshua wrote: 1.0 *final* version Why are there '*'s around the word 'final' ? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 05 March, 2004 2:03 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Because the previous ones were 1.0 RCx (Release Candidate x). --- Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.0 *final* version Why are there '*'s around the word 'final' ? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 05 March, 2004 2:03 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oops, yeah, that was part of my point, though I forgot to add it. :) To emphasize that the download is 1.0 final, not 1.0 RC1. --- Paul Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for emphasis Daniel Joshua wrote: 1.0 *final* version Why are there '*'s around the word 'final' ? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 05 March, 2004 2:03 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF RI Final is out! Quoting Jitender Kumar C [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a small doubt... Is this a new release? sorry if I put a wrong query... The main JavaServer Faces page on the web site is still not updated (talking to our web admins about it now), but the download page does indeed point at the 1.0 *final* version of JavaServer Faces. Craig -Original Message- From: Christian Bollmeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSF RI Final is out! http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/download.html -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi,
How do i get started wiith JSF ?.
Any books ?
Please advice
Regards,
Janarthan S
Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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RE: JSF RI Final is out!
Hi Janarthan,
There are several books available and/or coming available shortly for JSF.
I have put together a comprehensive list of resources for JavaServer Faces
on my website at:
http://www.jamesholmes.com/JavaServerFaces/
Hope that helps,
-James
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Hi,
How do i get started wiith JSF ?.
Any books ?
Please advice
Regards,
Janarthan S
Hookom, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that I'm disappointed with JSF. Yes, I see what
it's trying to accomplish, but it puts too much overhead in the JSP
designer, you can't easily create dependencies in the controller, no
exception handling, etc.
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?forum=427thread=490234
Based on what I've learned from JSF, I'm working on a framework called
Banten which is an attempt to remove the need for Actions/Forms, etc (yes,
I've jumped on the bandwagon).
So then your actions can be chained on a single request as:
#{orderController.order.addLineItem(param.id}
#{orderController.order:validate()}
I've finished the expression parser (it actually benchmarks a good deal
faster than the current EL implementations). Now to finish the Controller
:-)
-Nerdy
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Well its great to know the word is spreading...
...soon JSF will conquer all! muahahahaha
...I need some sleep :-(
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Re: JSF and StrutsFaces
Sure that is one way to do it. - Original Message - From: Richard Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: JSF and StrutsFaces I want to use the latest JSF with Struts. Can I use the latest JSF with Struts 1.1? Or should I get the latest from CVS? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF and StrutsFaces
Which do you suggest? -Original Message- From: Mike Deegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: JSF and StrutsFaces Sure that is one way to do it. - Original Message - From: Richard Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: JSF and StrutsFaces I want to use the latest JSF with Struts. Can I use the latest JSF with Struts 1.1? Or should I get the latest from CVS? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF and StrutsFaces
Sorry mate ! No suggestion - I just thought it was funny that you sent a response to someone else as Sure that is one way to do it. Without expanding the response ! I was just trying to get back at you a little Sorry if I have offended Have a great night and keep on Strutting ! BTW - I like the effort you guys have gone to on arc-mind.com with the excellent downloads / tutorials .. http://arc-mind.com/downloads.htm Keep up the good work ! - Original Message - From: Richard Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: RE: JSF and StrutsFaces Which do you suggest? -Original Message- From: Mike Deegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: JSF and StrutsFaces Sure that is one way to do it. - Original Message - From: Richard Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: JSF and StrutsFaces I want to use the latest JSF with Struts. Can I use the latest JSF with Struts 1.1? Or should I get the latest from CVS? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF and StrutsFaces
okay no need to apologise My comments to that person was later in the email. Look of the ** I must have forgotten to say there were comments below. Rick Hightower Developer Struts/J2EE training -- http://www.arc-mind.com/strutsCourse.htm Struts/J2EE consulting -- http://www.arc-mind.com/consulting.htm#StrutsMentoring -Original Message- From: Mike Deegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:03 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: JSF and StrutsFaces Sorry mate ! No suggestion - I just thought it was funny that you sent a response to someone else as Sure that is one way to do it. Without expanding the response ! I was just trying to get back at you a little Sorry if I have offended Have a great night and keep on Strutting ! BTW - I like the effort you guys have gone to on arc-mind.com with the excellent downloads / tutorials .. http://arc-mind.com/downloads.htm Keep up the good work ! - Original Message - From: Richard Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: RE: JSF and StrutsFaces Which do you suggest? -Original Message- From: Mike Deegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: JSF and StrutsFaces Sure that is one way to do it. - Original Message - From: Richard Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: JSF and StrutsFaces I want to use the latest JSF with Struts. Can I use the latest JSF with Struts 1.1? Or should I get the latest from CVS? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF and StrutsFaces
I am using jsf beta with Struts nightly and jsf-faces nightly, I have used it also with struts 1.1 with no problem. Tiles is supported in the nightly jsf-faces but it's buggy, jsf-impl has also its share of bugs. I'm looking forward to a stable release of both libraries. On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 18:20 -0700, Richard Hightower wrote: okay no need to apologise My comments to that person was later in the email. Look of the ** I must have forgotten to say there were comments below. Rick Hightower Developer Struts/J2EE training -- http://www.arc-mind.com/strutsCourse.htm Struts/J2EE consulting -- http://www.arc-mind.com/consulting.htm#StrutsMentoring -Original Message- From: Mike Deegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:03 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: JSF and StrutsFaces Sorry mate ! No suggestion - I just thought it was funny that you sent a response to someone else as Sure that is one way to do it. Without expanding the response ! I was just trying to get back at you a little Sorry if I have offended Have a great night and keep on Strutting ! BTW - I like the effort you guys have gone to on arc-mind.com with the excellent downloads / tutorials .. http://arc-mind.com/downloads.htm Keep up the good work ! - Original Message - From: Richard Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: RE: JSF and StrutsFaces Which do you suggest? -Original Message- From: Mike Deegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:48 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: JSF and StrutsFaces Sure that is one way to do it. - Original Message - From: Richard Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: JSF and StrutsFaces I want to use the latest JSF with Struts. Can I use the latest JSF with Struts 1.1? Or should I get the latest from CVS? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF managed beans
Quoting Nadeem Bitar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where and how do Managed Beans and JSF's navigation rules fit in a struts/jsf application? It depends on whether you want all (or part) of your application to migrate to a JSF for the controller type features or not. In a pure-Struts app that is being modified to use JSF components, you probably won't use the JSF navigation rules very much -- your decision to stay with the Struts controller and Action architecture implies that you still want to use Struts facilities for managing the navigation (forwards and such), so they won't do you much good. The managed bean facilities are useful (even here) to load backing beans -- event handlers for UI events, such as the RegistrationBacking class in the example program that's included in the current nightly builds: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-struts/nightly/struts-faces/ and managed beans are useful generally if you start using ValueBinding and MethodBinding APIs programmatically in your own code (very easy to do). You don't need to worry about the form bean itself, though ... that gets created on demand for you in the same way that standard Struts does it. With the newest beta, it is also possible to have an intermixed application that uses the Struts controller architecture for part of the app, and use JSF faclities for the remainder. In that scenario, you would of course be using managed beans and the JSF navigation rules for the JSF-based portion of the app. In general, though, I'd recommend sticking with one controller architecture for any partcular application, and think of this as primariy a transition assistance facility. Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF and rich clients (non-HTML)
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Martin Naskovski wrote: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:38:24 -0700 From: Martin Naskovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Naskovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JSF and rich clients (non-HTML) Probably a lame question, but here it goes anyway since I haven't really looked into JSF - can JSF be used in a non-HTML specific way? E.g. use JSF to provide content for a JSwing (or similar) GUI? Is JSF this flexible or is it strictly confined to rendering certain output that can only be viewed inside a web browser? You might want to download and play with it yourself :-). It's packaged in the Java Web Services Developer Pack, version 1.2: http://java.sun.com/webservices/ and there's a tutorial included. JavaServer Faces does indeed support non-HTML output. It separates the concerns into a component (which has render-INdependent properties) and a renderer that recognizes render-DEpendent attributes. For example, the generic component for user-invokable actions is called UICommand, with properties like a reference to the server-side Action to be invoked if the user activates this component. The standard HTML renderkit includes two renderers for UICommand: Button and Hyperlink that each recognize the set of attributes relevant for the corresponding HTML element. Out of the box, there is a set of standard renderers for HTML that are guaranteed to be portable to any implementation of JavaServer Faces, because this is a very common use case. But it's by no means the only possibility. At JavaOne, for example, I gave half of a session where we built a renderkit that output SVG, so you could take advantage of all the neat interactivity that SVG supports. We used the same demo application that comes with JavaServer Faces for HTM (CarDemo), and only had to switch to the tag library for the SVG renderers and tweak a few attributes. All the back-end logic stayed the same. In a similar way, you can interact with components at the Java API level (they're basically glorified JavaBeans), or with JSP tags -- JSP is not required, although it is supported out of the box for the standard HTML renderers. Tnx. Martin -- Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF and Struts Actions
This is so cool. I was hoping for this sort of thing. This is getting close to grown up. I wish I could see this stuff now. Man! Don't forget that JavaServer Faces has a two-level architecture -- user interface components that are render-independent, and renderers that construct a particular markup language. HTML is only one possbile output format, unlike Struts tags where (in JavaServer Faces terms) the rendering markup is baked in to the UI component tags themselves. Craig McClanahan Hmm.. I don't see why this is cool yet. The last time I looked at JSF, it appeared to be an attempt at re-invention of GUI concepts on the server side. Will the sophistication of such controls eventually approach what is available on a reasonable desktop PC today? And even when it does, the fact that server based UI's are going to involve all sorts of network/latency issues pre-dominate.. no? It is clear that rich-client based approaches offer richer interaction than web pages today, and embedding such controls in web pagesis possible (using MSFT amongst others) today. Innovative approaches exploiting java also currently exist (see nexaweb, thinlet etc). I saw these latter as re-inventing X11 (since they are focussed on the protocol that transmits bits between the server and client), and now JSF is proposing to redo the same but at the Xt or Motif level (to use a much-abused layer separation). Personally speaking, I find more work at the back-end interesting but I would like to know how it would impact the front end. The stuff we (as programmers) have trouble with really is still in the front end.. take a sampling of struts questions/traffic and I really wonder what percentatge of the traffic has to do with layout, jsps, event, security, controls (calendar/pagination etc.) .. all GUI/HTML/frontend stuff. Will JSF make writing such front-ends easier.. and if so, how? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF and Struts Actions
There are many proprietary vendors and many open source people that would like to leverage Struts, and most of them do have plug ins, etc. If your experience with proprietary vendor frameworks is good than, go for it. I used to use heavy frameworks and now us a light framework. I am developing more things to leverage Struts as well, that will compete with JSF. Let's say you want to build a commercial site, ex: http://www.coca-colastore.com (I know a bit about it) A good practice for rich UI is a lot of .js as they do. So you could say, lets do JSF, in UI on server side. Or you could do design like I attached. Simple to make formbeans emit XML of properties via reflection, and then a servlet that emits XML, and then action script (designed in a movie screen per jsp) that has a html ui component that CRUDS XML. I have a version working, if you know how baseBeans uses Struts formBeans on Resin to display HTML content stored in DB Now: http://basebeans.com/indexFlash.html Same site, Struts formbeans, etc. same content, DB, only instead of emiting JSP, I emit an XML. Result is that it is simple to convert plain JSP/JSTL Struts site to rich UI that executes on browser and is light and scalable. This is open source of course, I think JSF you pay for like EJB. Oh, and there will be a Struts 2.0, lots of ideas on the drawing board. Paul Hodgetts wrote: Based on some initial playing around with JSF, I can see how JSF provides more complete view functionality than Struts tags. From the comments I've read here and elsewhere, however, it seems that JSF's event hooks and framework are not as complete as Struts controller functionality, and hence Struts-Faces to hook the two together. An acquaintance did a presentation at a local JUG recently where he made that statement that JSF makes all of Struts obsolete, including having a complete controller framework. I don't see a complete controller framework in JSF, just hooks where I can provide handlers for various events. Am I missing something major in JSF or not realizing how to make use of the event handlers? Is JSF a complete replacement for Struts? If not, what's missing from JSF that Struts provides? Thanks much, Paul -- Vic Cekvenich, Struts Instructor, 1-800-917-JAVA Advanced a href =baseBeans.comStruts Training/a and project recovery in North East. Open Source a href =baseBeans.comContent Management/a basicPortal sofware Best practicea href =baseBeans.comStruts Support/a v.1.1 helper ScafflodingXPress - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF and Struts Actions
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Re: JSF and Struts Actions
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Vic Cekvenich wrote: [snip] Simple to make formbeans emit XML of properties via reflection, and then a servlet that emits XML, and then action script (designed in a movie screen per jsp) that has a html ui component that CRUDS XML. I have a version working, if you know how baseBeans uses Struts formBeans on Resin to display HTML content stored in DB Now: http://basebeans.com/indexFlash.html Same site, Struts formbeans, etc. same content, DB, only instead of emiting JSP, I emit an XML. Result is that it is simple to convert plain JSP/JSTL Struts site to rich UI that executes on browser and is light and scalable. JavaOne attendees who like this approach (lightweight XML output from the server that is converted into a rich UI on the client) will be very interested in attending my session on Thursday at 4:00: TS-2058: Combining JavaServer Faces Interface and Scalable Vector Graphics Vincent Hardy (Sun's representative on the SVG technical committee) and I will be demonstrating a JavaServer Faces implementation of a RenderKit that actually writes out a high level XML description of the components to be rendered. All the fancy stuff is done client side by your SVG viewer, so it can leverage all the fun things that SVG can do. Don't forget that JavaServer Faces has a two-level architecture -- user interface components that are render-independent, and renderers that construct a particular markup language. HTML is only one possbile output format, unlike Struts tags where (in JavaServer Faces terms) the rendering markup is baked in to the UI component tags themselves. Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF and Struts Actions
Well * I * will be teaching ( :-P ) this approach on the web right after JavaOne (and many other (such as OO, reporting, load testing, multirow master detail _best_ practices for Advanced Struts) for a lot less than Java One costs, with money back guarantee. (register on baseBeans.com training; no register does not working in action script, yet) Other like this light XML: http://www.nforms.net , see how they render XFORMS in JavaScript? I call this Services Scripting, _My _ example is Apache License $0 run time / budgeting, I am not sure JSF costs. But vendor competition = good. ( No teaching advanced Struts is not free.) Sign up today? Also, the sooner you sign up, the less $$. .V ps: more self promo: http://www.sys-con.com/2001/PR/code.cfm?page=10302002a Above lists as the only hands on training finalist. Craig R. McClanahan wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003, Vic Cekvenich wrote: [snip] Simple to make formbeans emit XML of properties via reflection, and then a servlet that emits XML, and then action script (designed in a movie screen per jsp) that has a html ui component that CRUDS XML. I have a version working, if you know how baseBeans uses Struts formBeans on Resin to display HTML content stored in DB Now: http://basebeans.com/indexFlash.html Same site, Struts formbeans, etc. same content, DB, only instead of emiting JSP, I emit an XML. Result is that it is simple to convert plain JSP/JSTL Struts site to rich UI that executes on browser and is light and scalable. JavaOne attendees who like this approach (lightweight XML output from the server that is converted into a rich UI on the client) will be very interested in attending my session on Thursday at 4:00: TS-2058: Combining JavaServer Faces Interface and Scalable Vector Graphics Vincent Hardy (Sun's representative on the SVG technical committee) and I will be demonstrating a JavaServer Faces implementation of a RenderKit that actually writes out a high level XML description of the components to be rendered. All the fancy stuff is done client side by your SVG viewer, so it can leverage all the fun things that SVG can do. Don't forget that JavaServer Faces has a two-level architecture -- user interface components that are render-independent, and renderers that construct a particular markup language. HTML is only one possbile output format, unlike Struts tags where (in JavaServer Faces terms) the rendering markup is baked in to the UI component tags themselves. Craig McClanahan -- Vic Cekvenich, Struts Instructor, 1-800-917-JAVA Advanced a href =baseBeans.comStruts Training/a and project recovery in North East. Open Source a href =baseBeans.comContent Management/a basicPortal sofware Best practicea href =baseBeans.comStruts Support/a v.1.1 helper ScafflodingXPress
Re: JSF and Struts Actions
This is so cool. I was hoping for this sort of thing. This is getting close to grown up. I wish I could see this stuff now. Man! At 06:22 PM 5/29/03 -0700, you wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003, Vic Cekvenich wrote: [snip] Simple to make formbeans emit XML of properties via reflection, and then a servlet that emits XML, and then action script (designed in a movie screen per jsp) that has a html ui component that CRUDS XML. I have a version working, if you know how baseBeans uses Struts formBeans on Resin to display HTML content stored in DB Now: http://basebeans.com/indexFlash.html Same site, Struts formbeans, etc. same content, DB, only instead of emiting JSP, I emit an XML. Result is that it is simple to convert plain JSP/JSTL Struts site to rich UI that executes on browser and is light and scalable. JavaOne attendees who like this approach (lightweight XML output from the server that is converted into a rich UI on the client) will be very interested in attending my session on Thursday at 4:00: TS-2058: Combining JavaServer Faces Interface and Scalable Vector Graphics Vincent Hardy (Sun's representative on the SVG technical committee) and I will be demonstrating a JavaServer Faces implementation of a RenderKit that actually writes out a high level XML description of the components to be rendered. All the fancy stuff is done client side by your SVG viewer, so it can leverage all the fun things that SVG can do. Don't forget that JavaServer Faces has a two-level architecture -- user interface components that are render-independent, and renderers that construct a particular markup language. HTML is only one possbile output format, unlike Struts tags where (in JavaServer Faces terms) the rendering markup is baked in to the UI component tags themselves. Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LEGAL NOTICE This electronic mail transmission and any accompanying documents contain information belonging to the sender which may be confidential and legally privileged. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom this electronic mail transmission was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of the information contained in this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete the message. Thank you - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF-Struts
I had to update the web.xml to be a web application 2.3 and then include: listenerlistener-classorg.apache.struts.faces.taglib.LifecycleListener/ listener-class/listener -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JSF-Struts I'm getting a 'Renderer Not Found for Renderer Type:StrutsHtml' exception when I click on the 'Register with the MailReader Demonstration Application' link in the JSF-Struts example webapp. What's up? Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF-Struts
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:38:29 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JSF-Struts I'm getting a 'Renderer Not Found for Renderer Type:StrutsHtml' exception when I click on the 'Register with the MailReader Demonstration Application' link in the JSF-Struts example webapp. I assume you haven't modified the sample app, and are just trying to run it, right? What's up? You would get this kind of error message if the ServletContextListener that is included in the library wasn't run at startup time like it is supposed to be. The reference to this listener is embedded in the TLD, which is in turn embedded in the struts-faces.jar file. This works fine for me on containers like Tomcat 4.1.18. What container are you running? Michael Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF-Struts
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:15:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JSF-Struts I had to update the web.xml to be a web application 2.3 and then include: listenerlistener-classorg.apache.struts.faces.taglib.LifecycleListener/ listener-class/listener If you had to do this, then your servlet/JSP container is broken. What are you trying to run on? Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF-Struts
JBoss/Jetty -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:18 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: JSF-Struts On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 11:15:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JSF-Struts I had to update the web.xml to be a web application 2.3 and then include: listenerlistener-classorg.apache.struts.faces.taglib.Lifec ycleListener/ listener-class/listener If you had to do this, then your servlet/JSP container is broken. What are you trying to run on? Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Jacob Hookom wrote: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:20:54 -0600 From: Jacob Hookom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JSF No problems downloading, but wait for EA4, EA3 has a major bug in it and won't even initialize on tomcat 4.18+ Jacob, that is a *very* presumptious statement when it works fine for most people :-). The appropriate next step is to identify what's different about the installations where it fails, so that we can fix it, instead of making incorrect generalizations. Craig McClanahan (who has personally run EA3 out-of-the-box on Tomcat 4.1.18 out-of-the-box on Windows, Linux, and Solaris systems) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF
I apologize Craig. I should have ended my statement with ... for me. From the Sun Forums, I can see that others are having the same problem. I was told to stay tuned for a fix with the Digester issue-- without a solid work around. I've tried swapping the packaged jars with JSF with newer versions and older versions, but it did not fix the issue. -Jacob No problems downloading, but wait for EA4, EA3 has a major bug in it and won't even initialize on tomcat 4.18+ Jacob, that is a *very* presumptious statement when it works fine for most people :-). The appropriate next step is to identify what's different about the installations where it fails, so that we can fix it, instead of making incorrect generalizations. Craig McClanahan (who has personally run EA3 out-of-the-box on Tomcat 4.1.18 out-of-the-box on Windows, Linux, and Solaris systems) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF
No problems downloading, but wait for EA4, EA3 has a major bug in it and won't even initialize on tomcat 4.18+ | -Original Message- | From: Edgar Dollin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:40 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: JSF | | Has anyone else had a problem logging into Sun's site to download the EA3 | edition? | | If so, were you able to work around it. | | Thanks | | Edgar | | | - | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF JSTL STRUTS
Reid's still in prison. -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:59 AM Reid? Is that you again? James Mitchell Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist -Original Message- From: Brijesh NK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:26 AM I was going through the JSF tutorials. After going through few chapters i feel that the JSF finctionality can be implemented using JSTL and Struts, why do we need another thechnology with different name. Any thoughts Brijesh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF JSTL STRUTS
At 9:56 AM +0530 2002/09/19, Brijesh NK wrote:
Hi,
I was going through the JSF tutorials. After going through few chapters i
feel that the JSF finctionality can be implemented using JSTL and Struts,
why do we
need another thechnology with different name.
I'd suggest reading the public draft of the specification. The
design goals for Java Server Faces are more complicated than you
think.
Joe
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Re: JSF JSTL
On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Brijesh NK wrote: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:49:24 +0530 From: Brijesh NK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JSF JSTL Hi, I was going through the JSF tutorials. After going through few chapters i feel that the JSF finctionality can be implemented using JSTL, why do we need another thechnology with different name. JSF components have a much richer functionality than do JSTL tags directly -- just a couple of examples should suffice to make the point: * JSF components redisplay bad input the way that Struts input field tags do. With JSTL alone, that would only work for String fields. * JSF lets you plug in event handlers and validators. JSTL offers no such functionality. * JSF lets you plug in a different RenderKit that renders the same components differently for a different target device. JSTL has nothing like this. With respect to JSF versus Struts, see my posting yesterday on why and how to use them together. From a Struts developer perspective, the reason to use JSF instead of the Struts HTML tags is that you'll automatically gain access to all the JSF components developed by everyone who creates them (and, because it'll be the standard, that covers a *lot* of component providers), instead of being stuck with just the proprietary Struts tags. Any thoughts Brijesh Craig -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSF JSTL STRUTS
Reid? Is that you again? James Mitchell Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist Struts-Atlanta, the Open Minded Developer Network http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta -Original Message- From: Brijesh NK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:26 AM To: Struts user group Subject: JSF JSTL STRUTS Hi, I was going through the JSF tutorials. After going through few chapters i feel that the JSF finctionality can be implemented using JSTL and Struts, why do we need another thechnology with different name. Any thoughts Brijesh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JSF on Oct. 8th.
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