RE: Paging for table...

2004-01-04 Thread Adolfo Miguelez
Hi,

I always wondered a question about this kind of server side paging:

THE PROBLEM:
I suppose it is based on getting all the results at once from the database 
and storing them in session. Further on, data is extracted in slots from the 
session and thrown to a JSP for rendering.

Well, I guess that, if this session data is large, in clustered 
environments, the data is balanced among the different servers causing a 
high network traffic which becomes in a performance issue for the whole 
system. Even worst, a lot of times just a small amount of data is browsed 
from the client side, so there is not reason to catch MBs in session. Is it 
not a bad design pattern?

THE GUESSED SOLUTION:
Would not it be better to make a new query to the datasource (database 
usually), in order to recover just a slot of data, store it in request scope 
and send to the JSP for rendering. Would not be this second approach save 
machine resources?

In that way server would not be context aware, and would work just as 
proxy/formatter among client and datasource. Is not better approach? Or 
perhaps would depends on the data size to be fetched?

Thanks for your opinions,

Adolfo.




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David,

Check for the details on http://www.servletsuite.com/servlets/pagertag.htm

Rahul

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Rahul,

What is this paging taglib?  Do you have a url?

Curious,
David
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Check for paging taglib available for struts which will meet your
requirements.
Rahul

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From: Vasudevrao Gupta M V S S S (WT01 - UTILITIES) Sent: Saturday, January
03, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'David Friedman'; 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Paging for table...


.Can you please send across the sample code that you have developed???

-Original Message-
From: David Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2004
20:57
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Paging for table...
I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.

Regards,
David
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From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: Paging for table...
Hi,

I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x
number
of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
records.(Similar to yahoo site ).
Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt
framework
to do this kind of paging
Regards
VasudevRaoGupta
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Re: Paging for table...

2004-01-04 Thread Ed Dowgiallo
If you are talking about an SQL database, this is exactly the concept of
cursor scrolling.  The JDBC standard calls the same thing result set
scrolling. The problem is that not all databases provide good support for
this.  In particular, the most popular database among corporations, Oracle,
does not support cursor scrolling at the database engine level.  Oracle does
support result set scrolling, but accomplishes it by buffering the query
result in the JDBC driver memory space on the client or application server.

The real difficulty with this concept for databases is the necessity to
support SQL operators like ORDER BY, GROUP BY, SELECT DISTINCT,
COUNT(DISTINCT, UNION, MINUS, DIFFER, etc. which often involve sorting.  The
final order of the rows is not known until the sort steps are completed.

Ed
- Original Message - 
From: Adolfo Miguelez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: Paging for table...


 Hi,

 I always wondered a question about this kind of server side paging:

 THE PROBLEM:
 I suppose it is based on getting all the results at once from the database
 and storing them in session. Further on, data is extracted in slots from
the
 session and thrown to a JSP for rendering.

 Well, I guess that, if this session data is large, in clustered
 environments, the data is balanced among the different servers causing a
 high network traffic which becomes in a performance issue for the whole
 system. Even worst, a lot of times just a small amount of data is browsed
 from the client side, so there is not reason to catch MBs in session. Is
it
 not a bad design pattern?

 THE GUESSED SOLUTION:
 Would not it be better to make a new query to the datasource (database
 usually), in order to recover just a slot of data, store it in request
scope
 and send to the JSP for rendering. Would not be this second approach save
 machine resources?

 In that way server would not be context aware, and would work just as
 proxy/formatter among client and datasource. Is not better approach? Or
 perhaps would depends on the data size to be fetched?

 Thanks for your opinions,

 Adolfo.




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 David,
 
 Check for the details on
http://www.servletsuite.com/servlets/pagertag.htm
 
 Rahul
 
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 From: David Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:48 AM
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 Subject: RE: Paging for table...
 
 
 Rahul,
 
 What is this paging taglib?  Do you have a url?
 
 Curious,
 David
 
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 Check for paging taglib available for struts which will meet your
 requirements.
 
 Rahul
 
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 From: Vasudevrao Gupta M V S S S (WT01 - UTILITIES) Sent: Saturday,
January
 03, 2004 8:57 PM
 To: 'David Friedman'; 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: Paging for table...
 
 
 
 .Can you please send across the sample code that you have developed???
 
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 From: David Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2004
 20:57
 To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Paging for table...
 
 
 I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.
 
 Regards,
 David
 
 -Original Message-
 From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
 Subject: Paging for table...
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x
 number
 of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
 clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
 records.(Similar to yahoo site ).
 
 Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt
 framework
 to do this kind of paging
 
 Regards
 VasudevRaoGupta
 
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Re: Paging for table...

2004-01-04 Thread HK Santosh
Ed,

   any URL(s) which might enlighten me further on resultset/cursor 
scrolling and the support provided by different databses in this regard.

Thanks,
Santosh
Ed Dowgiallo wrote:

If you are talking about an SQL database, this is exactly the concept of
cursor scrolling.  The JDBC standard calls the same thing result set
scrolling. The problem is that not all databases provide good support for
this.  In particular, the most popular database among corporations, Oracle,
does not support cursor scrolling at the database engine level.  Oracle does
support result set scrolling, but accomplishes it by buffering the query
result in the JDBC driver memory space on the client or application server.
The real difficulty with this concept for databases is the necessity to
support SQL operators like ORDER BY, GROUP BY, SELECT DISTINCT,
COUNT(DISTINCT, UNION, MINUS, DIFFER, etc. which often involve sorting.  The
final order of the rows is not known until the sort steps are completed.
Ed
- Original Message - 
From: Adolfo Miguelez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: Paging for table...

 

Hi,

I always wondered a question about this kind of server side paging:

THE PROBLEM:
I suppose it is based on getting all the results at once from the database
and storing them in session. Further on, data is extracted in slots from
   

the
 

session and thrown to a JSP for rendering.

Well, I guess that, if this session data is large, in clustered
environments, the data is balanced among the different servers causing a
high network traffic which becomes in a performance issue for the whole
system. Even worst, a lot of times just a small amount of data is browsed
from the client side, so there is not reason to catch MBs in session. Is
   

it
 

not a bad design pattern?

THE GUESSED SOLUTION:
Would not it be better to make a new query to the datasource (database
usually), in order to recover just a slot of data, store it in request
   

scope
 

and send to the JSP for rendering. Would not be this second approach save
machine resources?
In that way server would not be context aware, and would work just as
proxy/formatter among client and datasource. Is not better approach? Or
perhaps would depends on the data size to be fetched?
Thanks for your opinions,

Adolfo.



   

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:50:22 +0530
David,

Check for the details on
 

http://www.servletsuite.com/servlets/pagertag.htm
 

Rahul

-Original Message-
From: David Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:48 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Paging for table...
Rahul,

What is this paging taglib?  Do you have a url?

Curious,
David
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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:15 AM
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Check for paging taglib available for struts which will meet your
requirements.
Rahul

-Original Message-
From: Vasudevrao Gupta M V S S S (WT01 - UTILITIES) Sent: Saturday,
 

January
 

03, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'David Friedman'; 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Paging for table...


.Can you please send across the sample code that you have developed???

-Original Message-
From: David Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2004
20:57
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Paging for table...
I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.

Regards,
David
-Original Message-
From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: Paging for table...
Hi,

I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x
number
of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
records.(Similar to yahoo site ).
Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt
framework
to do this kind of paging
Regards
VasudevRaoGupta
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RE: Paging for table...

2004-01-03 Thread David Friedman
I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.

Regards,
David

-Original Message-
From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
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Subject: Paging for table...

Hi,

I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x number
of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
records.(Similar to yahoo site ).

Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt framework
to do this kind of paging

Regards
VasudevRaoGupta

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RE: Paging for table...

2004-01-03 Thread vasudevrao gupta

.Can you please send across the sample code that you have developed???

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Sent: 03 January 2004 20:57
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Paging for table...


I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.

Regards,
David

-Original Message-
From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: Paging for table...

Hi,

I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x
number
of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
records.(Similar to yahoo site ).

Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt
framework
to do this kind of paging

Regards
VasudevRaoGupta

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RE: Paging for table...

2004-01-03 Thread David Friedman
The site I gave you, www.displaytag.org (with source and binaries available
from SourceForge.net), lists plenty of examples and code.  Basically, you
have a collection of objects (usually in request or session scope, but you
can do it in page scope) and set your tag with the columns.  From their
basic columns example, if you have a List stored as test, for each item
you can display the fields id, name, email, status, description using the
below code:

display:table name=test
  display:column property=id /
  display:column property=name /
  display:column property=email /
  display:column property=status /
  display:column property=description /
/display:table

Just keep in mind the binary updates a few jars to newer versions.  Off the
top of my head, I think it updates (don't pay attention, I just code *grin*)
commons-lang, commons-beanutils, commons-logging, and commons-collections.
But don't worry, they are in the binary distribution's example .war
application and work fine with Struts v1.1 (probably with v1.0 as well).

Also, fancier things are available, such as sorting, grouping, and
downloading the fields as excel, csv, and xml.

Regards,
David

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Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:27 AM
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.Can you please send across the sample code that you have developed???

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Sent: 03 January 2004 20:57
To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Paging for table...


I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.

Regards,
David

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From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: Paging for table...

Hi,

I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x
number
of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
records.(Similar to yahoo site ).

Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt
framework
to do this kind of paging

Regards
VasudevRaoGupta

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RE: Paging for table...

2004-01-03 Thread rahul.chaudhary

Check for paging taglib available for struts which will meet your requirements.

Rahul

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Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:57 PM
To: 'David Friedman'; 'Struts Users Mailing List'
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.Can you please send across the sample code that you have developed???

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Sent: 03 January 2004 20:57
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I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.

Regards,
David

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From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: Paging for table...

Hi,

I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x
number
of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
records.(Similar to yahoo site ).

Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt
framework
to do this kind of paging

Regards
VasudevRaoGupta

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RE: Paging for table...

2004-01-03 Thread David Friedman
Rahul,

What is this paging taglib?  Do you have a url?

Curious,
David

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Check for paging taglib available for struts which will meet your
requirements.

Rahul

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03, 2004 8:57 PM
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.Can you please send across the sample code that you have developed???

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To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Paging for table...


I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.

Regards,
David

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From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: Paging for table...

Hi,

I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x
number
of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
records.(Similar to yahoo site ).

Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt
framework
to do this kind of paging

Regards
VasudevRaoGupta

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RE: Paging for table...

2004-01-03 Thread rahul.chaudhary

David,

Check for the details on http://www.servletsuite.com/servlets/pagertag.htm

Rahul

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Subject: RE: Paging for table...


Rahul,

What is this paging taglib?  Do you have a url?

Curious,
David

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Check for paging taglib available for struts which will meet your
requirements.

Rahul

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From: Vasudevrao Gupta M V S S S (WT01 - UTILITIES) Sent: Saturday, January
03, 2004 8:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Paging for table...



.Can you please send across the sample code that you have developed???

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Subject: RE: Paging for table...


I use displaytag, www.displaytag.org, for that.

Regards,
David

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From: vasudevrao gupta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:40 AM
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Subject: Paging for table...

Hi,

I have a requirement where in user executes a query and gets some x
number
of records.  I have to show the user 1-y records per page and when user
clicks next button, he should be be able to see next y number of
records.(Similar to yahoo site ).

Can any one pls tell me if struts frame work provides any inbuilt
framework
to do this kind of paging

Regards
VasudevRaoGupta

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