RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath?
True, but I NEED a good laugh on Fridays! :-) Simon -Original Message- From: MARK NICHOLS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? Who cares! A good chuckle on Tuesday is better than a delayed laugh on Friday. /\/\ark ___ - mark h. nichols - dhsv022 at dhs dot state dot il dot us The best laid plans o'mice and men gang aft aglay... -Robert Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/02 11:24AM It's not Friday yet! :-) -Original Message- From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:17 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? Struts is actually a virus, though the delivery is a bit low-tech. Mark -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:15 PM To: Struts mailing list (E-mail) Subject: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? I want to start out by saying that I have read the fine manual and realise that the struts FAQ says that the struts.jar must not be placed on the application server's CLASSPATH. My question to this list is why is this the case? I have a build manager who very much wants only a single instance of any jar file to exist on a server and they are asking why I am talking about putting multiples of the same file on their machine? Simon - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath?
Yeah - MarkG we're becoming dependant on you. Make sure you don't take fridays off! Perhaps people on this list will get really annoyed if we start having fun on other days of the week. Personally I reckon anyone who delivers good replies deserves some play-time. Especially since the standard is good (of the jokes I mean - I'm too inexperienced to speak for Marks replies!). --- Chappell, Simon P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True, but I NEED a good laugh on Fridays! :-) Simon -Original Message- From: MARK NICHOLS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? Who cares! A good chuckle on Tuesday is better than a delayed laugh on Friday. /\/\ark ___ - mark h. nichols - dhsv022 at dhs dot state dot il dot us The best laid plans o'mice and men gang aft aglay... -Robert Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/12/02 11:24AM It's not Friday yet! :-) -Original Message- From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:17 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? Struts is actually a virus, though the delivery is a bit low-tech. Mark -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:15 PM To: Struts mailing list (E-mail) Subject: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? I want to start out by saying that I have read the fine manual and realise that the struts FAQ says that the struts.jar must not be placed on the application server's CLASSPATH. My question to this list is why is this the case? I have a build manager who very much wants only a single instance of any jar file to exist on a server and they are asking why I am talking about putting multiples of the same file on their machine? Simon - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = ~~ Search the archive:- http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/ ~~ Keith Bacon - Looking for struts work - South-East UK. phone UK 07960 011275 __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why no struts.jar on the classpath?
I want to start out by saying that I have read the fine manual and realise that the struts FAQ says that the struts.jar must not be placed on the application server's CLASSPATH. My question to this list is why is this the case? I have a build manager who very much wants only a single instance of any jar file to exist on a server and they are asking why I am talking about putting multiples of the same file on their machine? Simon - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath?
Struts is actually a virus, though the delivery is a bit low-tech. Mark -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:15 PM To: Struts mailing list (E-mail) Subject: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? I want to start out by saying that I have read the fine manual and realise that the struts FAQ says that the struts.jar must not be placed on the application server's CLASSPATH. My question to this list is why is this the case? I have a build manager who very much wants only a single instance of any jar file to exist on a server and they are asking why I am talking about putting multiples of the same file on their machine? Simon - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath?
It's not Friday yet! :-) -Original Message- From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:17 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? Struts is actually a virus, though the delivery is a bit low-tech. Mark -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:15 PM To: Struts mailing list (E-mail) Subject: Why no struts.jar on the classpath? I want to start out by saying that I have read the fine manual and realise that the struts FAQ says that the struts.jar must not be placed on the application server's CLASSPATH. My question to this list is why is this the case? I have a build manager who very much wants only a single instance of any jar file to exist on a server and they are asking why I am talking about putting multiples of the same file on their machine? Simon - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why no struts.jar on the classpath?
Below is an extract from the link below. I don't really understand it that well but if no guru answers. You might search the archives further I'm sure I've seen this answered there but didn't find it. It's something to do with which class loader loads the struts classes. It has to be your web-apps class loader not the server class loader Sorry this is not as witty as Mr Galbreath's answer probably just as useless. === So, just like a call to a struts class in a web-app will need to be referenced under the WEB-INF (which is why we place the struts.jar file in the WEB-INF/lib directory, you also need to have a root-relative path for any Application Resources. I place mine in the WEB-INF/classes folder as that is automatically referenced by my web container. http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg11825.html --- Chappell, Simon P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to start out by saying that I have read the fine manual and realise that the struts FAQ says that the struts.jar must not be placed on the application server's CLASSPATH. My question to this list is why is this the case? I have a build manager who very much wants only a single instance of any jar file to exist on a server and they are asking why I am talking about putting multiples of the same file on their machine? Simon - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = ~~ Search the archive:- http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/ ~~ Keith Bacon - Looking for struts work - South-East UK. phone UK 07960 011275 __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why no struts.jar on the classpath?
The long answer (or several long answers, at least one good written by Craig) can be found by searching the archives of this list. The short answer is that it is a classloader issue. The classes in struts.jar instantiates your action classes and formbean classes. Those classes _really_ _really_ should be packaged with the webapp and stored below the WEB-INF/classes dir (or inside a jar in WEB-INF/lib if you really want to jar them). If struts.jar is in WEB-INF/lib it will find your classes and everything will be good :-). If struts.jar is somewhere else in the classpath, the classes inside your webapp will not be found by the struts.jar classes and you will see strange errors when trying to run things. Regards Mikael At 11:14 2002-03-12 -0600, you wrote: I want to start out by saying that I have read the fine manual and realise that the struts FAQ says that the struts.jar must not be placed on the application server's CLASSPATH. My question to this list is why is this the case? I have a build manager who very much wants only a single instance of any jar file to exist on a server and they are asking why I am talking about putting multiples of the same file on their machine? Simon - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
