Re: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively?
Performance can vary quite a bit from container to container, and then from system to system. The best answer is to always run your own benchmarks with your own data on your own system. Some people have reported performance issues with pages that have more that 50 input fields. But I'm not aware if using scriptlets would make any difference there or not. I've never had this problem with my own applications, and I don't remember anyone coming back to say that scriplets worked better than tags for 100 input-field form. If preformance becomes an issue, or you hit the 64kb barrier, another option might be to bypass JSPs altogether, and try a Velocity template. http://husted.com/struts/resources/velstruts.zip By the time the page is rendered, it is all HTML. Struts itself has no clue as to how the request is written, and so it is not an issue from the framework's perspective. All other decisions are going to be up to the team. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY US -- Developing Java Web Applications with Struts -- Tel: +1 585 737-3463 -- Web: http://husted.com/about/services [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah i understand the part that you have to type less and its simpler, but I want to know how is the performance hit? suppose I have a huge form with lots of input type, just to put something simple as input type-submit name=submit value=Login and its brothers and sisters, is it worth using the tags? will it slow down the page loading? Regards, Rumpa Giri -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:23 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively? You certainly can pick and choose which pieces you want to use. You can use the tag library without a thought of using the controller servlet. However, which would you rather write? input type-submit name=submit value=Login or html:submit value=Login/ The tag library (in many cases) isn't used because it provides functionalty you can't write youself, but because it makes it so much easier to write the same things you can write yourself. ... at least that's what I gather. Don't let me be the final word - I'm just a lazy developer that likes cutting what I have to type in half =) Other opinions? Regards, Eddie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively? Suppose I have a login page, with username and password and submit button. Is it ok to have something like the following? is it ok to use struts html tags only for the input type form but not for the others? if the output of the tags is same as what I have here, why should I be inclined to use, or is it a convention to use? or is it a personal choice? html:form action=/login.do name=frm1 type=mypackage.struts.login.LoginForm focus=username table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=2 border=0 align=center tr td colspan=2html:errors//td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Username: /td tdinput type=text name=username value=%=request.getParameter(username)% size=20 maxlength=60/td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Password: /td tdinput type=password name=pwd value=%=request.getParameter(pwd)% size=20 maxlength=12/td /tr tr tdnbsp;/td td align=centerinput type=submit name=submit value=Login/td /tr /table /html:form Regards, Rumpa Giri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively?
Suppose I have a login page, with username and password and submit button. Is it ok to have something like the following? is it ok to use struts html tags only for the input type form but not for the others? if the output of the tags is same as what I have here, why should I be inclined to use, or is it a convention to use? or is it a personal choice? html:form action=/login.do name=frm1 type=mypackage.struts.login.LoginForm focus=username table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=2 border=0 align=center tr td colspan=2html:errors//td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Username: /td tdinput type=text name=username value=%=request.getParameter(username)% size=20 maxlength=60/td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Password: /td tdinput type=password name=pwd value=%=request.getParameter(pwd)% size=20 maxlength=12/td /tr tr tdnbsp;/td td align=centerinput type=submit name=submit value=Login/td /tr /table /html:form Regards, Rumpa Giri
Re: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively?
You certainly can pick and choose which pieces you want to use. You can use the tag library without a thought of using the controller servlet. However, which would you rather write? input type-submit name=submit value=Login or html:submit value=Login/ The tag library (in many cases) isn't used because it provides functionalty you can't write youself, but because it makes it so much easier to write the same things you can write yourself. ... at least that's what I gather. Don't let me be the final word - I'm just a lazy developer that likes cutting what I have to type in half =) Other opinions? Regards, Eddie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively? Suppose I have a login page, with username and password and submit button. Is it ok to have something like the following? is it ok to use struts html tags only for the input type form but not for the others? if the output of the tags is same as what I have here, why should I be inclined to use, or is it a convention to use? or is it a personal choice? html:form action=/login.do name=frm1 type=mypackage.struts.login.LoginForm focus=username table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=2 border=0 align=center tr td colspan=2html:errors//td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Username: /td tdinput type=text name=username value=%=request.getParameter(username)% size=20 maxlength=60/td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Password: /td tdinput type=password name=pwd value=%=request.getParameter(pwd)% size=20 maxlength=12/td /tr tr tdnbsp;/td td align=centerinput type=submit name=submit value=Login/td /tr /table /html:form Regards, Rumpa Giri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively?
yeah i understand the part that you have to type less and its simpler, but I want to know how is the performance hit? suppose I have a huge form with lots of input type, just to put something simple as input type-submit name=submit value=Login and its brothers and sisters, is it worth using the tags? will it slow down the page loading? Regards, Rumpa Giri -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:23 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively? You certainly can pick and choose which pieces you want to use. You can use the tag library without a thought of using the controller servlet. However, which would you rather write? input type-submit name=submit value=Login or html:submit value=Login/ The tag library (in many cases) isn't used because it provides functionalty you can't write youself, but because it makes it so much easier to write the same things you can write yourself. ... at least that's what I gather. Don't let me be the final word - I'm just a lazy developer that likes cutting what I have to type in half =) Other opinions? Regards, Eddie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively? Suppose I have a login page, with username and password and submit button. Is it ok to have something like the following? is it ok to use struts html tags only for the input type form but not for the others? if the output of the tags is same as what I have here, why should I be inclined to use, or is it a convention to use? or is it a personal choice? html:form action=/login.do name=frm1 type=mypackage.struts.login.LoginForm focus=username table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=2 border=0 align=center tr td colspan=2html:errors//td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Username: /td tdinput type=text name=username value=%=request.getParameter(username)% size=20 maxlength=60/td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Password: /td tdinput type=password name=pwd value=%=request.getParameter(pwd)% size=20 maxlength=12/td /tr tr tdnbsp;/td td align=centerinput type=submit name=submit value=Login/td /tr /table /html:form Regards, Rumpa Giri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively?
Also I am interested in the maintenance aspect. What if the HTML developer sends the Web App developer a revised version of the screen with additional input fields? -Srinivas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively? yeah i understand the part that you have to type less and its simpler, but I want to know how is the performance hit? suppose I have a huge form with lots of input type, just to put something simple as input type-submit name=submit value=Login and its brothers and sisters, is it worth using the tags? will it slow down the page loading? Regards, Rumpa Giri -Original Message- From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:23 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively? You certainly can pick and choose which pieces you want to use. You can use the tag library without a thought of using the controller servlet. However, which would you rather write? input type-submit name=submit value=Login or html:submit value=Login/ The tag library (in many cases) isn't used because it provides functionalty you can't write youself, but because it makes it so much easier to write the same things you can write yourself. ... at least that's what I gather. Don't let me be the final word - I'm just a lazy developer that likes cutting what I have to type in half =) Other opinions? Regards, Eddie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: newbie question: is it ok to use struts selectively? Suppose I have a login page, with username and password and submit button. Is it ok to have something like the following? is it ok to use struts html tags only for the input type form but not for the others? if the output of the tags is same as what I have here, why should I be inclined to use, or is it a convention to use? or is it a personal choice? html:form action=/login.do name=frm1 type=mypackage.struts.login.LoginForm focus=username table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=2 border=0 align=center tr td colspan=2html:errors//td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Username: /td tdinput type=text name=username value=%=request.getParameter(username)% size=20 maxlength=60/td /tr tr bgcolor=#ebf5fe td class=b width=120Password: /td tdinput type=password name=pwd value=%=request.getParameter(pwd)% size=20 maxlength=12/td /tr tr tdnbsp;/td td align=centerinput type=submit name=submit value=Login/td /tr /table /html:form Regards, Rumpa Giri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
