RE: Tiles scope problem

2004-01-15 Thread Yogi_Shridhare/BCBSRI

Richard

Thanks for you reply. I don't set it to true as you can see below.

This is part of my struts-config.xml

action
  path=/providers/Eligibility
type=org.bcbsri.thinui.struts.actions.EligibilityAction
name=EligibilityForm
scope=request
input=/providers/eligibility/eligibilityLookup.jsp
exception key=error.bcbsri.member.notfound
   type=
org.bcbsri.common.exception.MemberNotFoundException
   path=/providers/eligibility/eligibilityLookup.jsp
/
exception key=
error.bcbsri.provider.memberlookup.nocoveragefound
   type=
org.bcbsri.common.exception.NoCoverageFoundException
   path=/providers/eligibility/eligibilityLookup.jsp
/
exception key=error.bcbsri.date.invalid
   type=
org.bcbsri.common.exception.InvalidDateFormatException
   path=/providers/eligibility/eligibilityLookup.jsp
/
forward name=lookup path=
/providers/eligibility/eligibilityLookup.jsp/
forward name=display path=bcbsri.layout/
If you look at the last line, thats where I call my bcbsri.layout tile.



   
  
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Subject: Tiles scope problem


Hi group

I have a quick question for you. I really appreciate your time on this.

We are trying to migrate our existing static JSP project to using Tiles.

The question is this.

I have a Struts action class calling a forward to one of the JSPs. This JSP
does the Tiles insert for the body attribute. The body jsp iterates
through the collection and tries to retrieve the properties of the
collection. When I do this with Session scope, it works fine but with
request scope it fails.
Is there any way to make this work with request scope?

Thanks.

Following is the simple set up.

file bcbsriLayout.jsp

%@ page language=java %
...
tiles:insert attribute=header /
tiles:insert attribute=topnav/
tiles:insert attribute=leftnav/
...
tiles:insert attribute=body/
tiles:insert attribute=bottomnav/

File: eligibility.jsp (This jsp gets called from Struts action)

%@ page language=java%
%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-tiles.tld prefix=tiles %
%
  session.setAttribute(navCode,GN2.02.01);
%

tiles:insert definition=bcbsri.layout 
  tiles.put name=titleKey value=title /
  tiles:put name=body value=/eligibility.jsp / // the main JSP
calling the logic:iterate

/tiles:insert


../eligibility.jsp
logic:iterate scope=request name=members id=member
html:text size=30 readonly=true style=border:1 name=member
property=formattedFullNameByFirst/
  ...
  Access member properties   // *Error member not defined
/logic:iterate

File:testTile.xml

!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions PUBLIC
  -//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration//EN
  http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/dtds/tiles-config.dtd;

!--%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-tiles.tld prefix=tiles %--
tiles-definitions
definition  name=bcbsri.layout  page=/bcbsriLayout.jsp 
  put name=titleKey type=string /
  put name=header value=/HeaderIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=topnav value=/TopNavIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=leftnav value=/LeftNavIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=body type=page /
  put name=bottomnav value

Tiles scope problem

2004-01-14 Thread Yogi_Shridhare/BCBSRI
Hi group

I have a quick question for you. I really appreciate your time on this.

We are trying to migrate our existing static JSP project to using Tiles.

The question is this.

I have a Struts action class calling a forward to one of the JSPs. This JSP
does the Tiles insert for the body attribute. The body jsp iterates
through the collection and tries to retrieve the properties of the
collection. When I do this with Session scope, it works fine but with
request scope it fails.
Is there any way to make this work with request scope?

Thanks.

Following is the simple set up.

file bcbsriLayout.jsp

%@ page language=java %
...
tiles:insert attribute=header /
tiles:insert attribute=topnav/
tiles:insert attribute=leftnav/
...
tiles:insert attribute=body/
tiles:insert attribute=bottomnav/

File: eligibility.jsp (This jsp gets called from Struts action)

%@ page language=java%
%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-tiles.tld prefix=tiles %
%
  session.setAttribute(navCode,GN2.02.01);
%

tiles:insert definition=bcbsri.layout 
  tiles.put name=titleKey value=title /
  tiles:put name=body value=/eligibility.jsp / // the main JSP
calling the logic:iterate

/tiles:insert


../eligibility.jsp
logic:iterate scope=request name=members id=member
html:text size=30 readonly=true style=border:1 name=member
property=formattedFullNameByFirst/
  ...
  Access member properties   // *Error member not defined
/logic:iterate

File:testTile.xml

!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions PUBLIC
  -//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration//EN
  http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/dtds/tiles-config.dtd;

!--%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-tiles.tld prefix=tiles %--
tiles-definitions
definition  name=bcbsri.layout  page=/bcbsriLayout.jsp 
  put name=titleKey type=string /
  put name=header value=/HeaderIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=topnav value=/TopNavIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=leftnav value=/LeftNavIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=body type=page /
  put name=bottomnav value=BottomNavIncDyn.jsp /
/definition

definition  name=basic.tiles page=/definitions.jsp 
  put name=title value=Basic title/
  put name=header value=test1 /
  put name=footer value=test2 /
  put name=menu   value=test33 /
  put name=body   value=test4 /
/definition


/tiles-definitions



The members collection gets populated by an Action class. If I change the
above scope to session and change my action class accordingly, this
works. But I would like to get it working with scope as request.

can you suggest a solution?

Thanks a lot.

Yogi
We are running into a following problem.





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RE: Tiles scope problem

2004-01-14 Thread Richard Hightower
Check your action forward and make sure you don't have redirect=true.

Rick Hightower
Developer

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From: Yogi_Shridhare/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:Yogi_Shridhare/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tiles scope problem


Hi group

I have a quick question for you. I really appreciate your time on this.

We are trying to migrate our existing static JSP project to using Tiles.

The question is this.

I have a Struts action class calling a forward to one of the JSPs. This JSP
does the Tiles insert for the body attribute. The body jsp iterates
through the collection and tries to retrieve the properties of the
collection. When I do this with Session scope, it works fine but with
request scope it fails.
Is there any way to make this work with request scope?

Thanks.

Following is the simple set up.

file bcbsriLayout.jsp

%@ page language=java %
...
tiles:insert attribute=header /
tiles:insert attribute=topnav/
tiles:insert attribute=leftnav/
...
tiles:insert attribute=body/
tiles:insert attribute=bottomnav/

File: eligibility.jsp (This jsp gets called from Struts action)

%@ page language=java%
%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-tiles.tld prefix=tiles %
%
  session.setAttribute(navCode,GN2.02.01);
%

tiles:insert definition=bcbsri.layout 
  tiles.put name=titleKey value=title /
  tiles:put name=body value=/eligibility.jsp / // the main JSP
calling the logic:iterate

/tiles:insert


../eligibility.jsp
logic:iterate scope=request name=members id=member
html:text size=30 readonly=true style=border:1 name=member
property=formattedFullNameByFirst/
  ...
  Access member properties   // *Error member not defined
/logic:iterate

File:testTile.xml

!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions PUBLIC
  -//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration//EN
  http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/dtds/tiles-config.dtd;

!--%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-tiles.tld prefix=tiles %--
tiles-definitions
definition  name=bcbsri.layout  page=/bcbsriLayout.jsp 
  put name=titleKey type=string /
  put name=header value=/HeaderIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=topnav value=/TopNavIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=leftnav value=/LeftNavIncDyn.jsp /
  put name=body type=page /
  put name=bottomnav value=BottomNavIncDyn.jsp /
/definition

definition  name=basic.tiles page=/definitions.jsp 
  put name=title value=Basic title/
  put name=header value=test1 /
  put name=footer value=test2 /
  put name=menu   value=test33 /
  put name=body   value=test4 /
/definition


/tiles-definitions



The members collection gets populated by an Action class. If I change the
above scope to session and change my action class accordingly, this
works. But I would like to get it working with scope as request.

can you suggest a solution?

Thanks a lot.

Yogi
We are running into a following problem.





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Re: tiles scope

2003-01-10 Thread Cedric Dumoulin


 Hi,

 The Cannot find bean org.apache.struts.taglib.html.BEAN in any scope' 
error is usually caused by a struts tag which doesn't find its needed 
bean. For example it can be caused by a html:form ... tag. Do you have 
such tag in c_search_form.jsp ? I suppose the answer is yes.
 The beans needed by struts tags are set in appropriate context by the 
struts RequestProcessor, which is called automatically when you hit an 
struts action address (*.do).
 To be short, to use a struts html tag, you need to go throw a struts 
action. So, if your c_search_form.jsp page have such tag, you need to 
access it throw an associated struts action which then forward to the jsp.
 Then, you specify the action URL in the tiles definition instead of 
the jsp url.

   Cedric


Juri Smarschevski wrote:

hi all,

have a problem with tile's scopes. (struts-1.1-b2)

my simple tiles structure looks as follows:
[tiles-defs.xml]
definition name=mainLayout path=/WEB-INF/tiles/layout_main.jsp
 put name=title value=Sample Page Title type=string /
 put name=headervalue=/WEB-INF/tiles/header.jsp /
 put name=js_header value= /
 put name=menu  value=/WEB-INF/tiles/menu.jsp /
 put name=body  value=/WEB-INF/tiles/body.jsp /
 put name=footervalue=/WEB-INF/tiles/footer.jsp /
/definition

definition name=searchAlb extends=mainLayout
 put name=body   value=searchAlb.body /
/definition

definition name=searchAlb.body
 path=/WEB-INF/tiles/layout_search_alb_body.jsp
 put name=search_form value=/WEB-INF/contents/c_search_form.jsp /
 !-- etc. --
/definition


[layout_search_alb_body.jsp]
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-tiles prefix=tiles %
tiles:get name=search_form/

[c_search_form.jsp]
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-tiles prefix=tiles %
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-html prefix=html %
centerhi from search form/center

the called jsp-page is [alb_search.jsp]
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-tiles prefix=tiles %
tiles:insert definition=searchAlb flush=true/

and the c_search_form.jsp throws the exception
[ServletException in:/WEB-INF/contents/c_search_form.jsp] Cannot find
bean org.apache.struts.taglib.html.BEAN in any scope'
cause by the line
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-html prefix=html %

Any ideas why ? Have I (can I) to define a scope in the tiles
definitions ?
The http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/struts-tiles.htm
did not help me at this point. Any RTFM-links are welcome ;-)

thx in advance and regards,
juri







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tiles scope

2003-01-10 Thread Juri Smarschevski
hi all,

have a problem with tile's scopes. (struts-1.1-b2)

my simple tiles structure looks as follows:
[tiles-defs.xml]
definition name=mainLayout path=/WEB-INF/tiles/layout_main.jsp
 put name=title value=Sample Page Title type=string /
 put name=headervalue=/WEB-INF/tiles/header.jsp /
 put name=js_header value= /
 put name=menu  value=/WEB-INF/tiles/menu.jsp /
 put name=body  value=/WEB-INF/tiles/body.jsp /
 put name=footervalue=/WEB-INF/tiles/footer.jsp /
/definition

definition name=searchAlb extends=mainLayout
 put name=body   value=searchAlb.body /
/definition

definition name=searchAlb.body
 path=/WEB-INF/tiles/layout_search_alb_body.jsp
 put name=search_form value=/WEB-INF/contents/c_search_form.jsp /
 !-- etc. --
/definition


[layout_search_alb_body.jsp]
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-tiles prefix=tiles %
tiles:get name=search_form/

[c_search_form.jsp]
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-tiles prefix=tiles %
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-html prefix=html %
centerhi from search form/center

the called jsp-page is [alb_search.jsp]
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-tiles prefix=tiles %
tiles:insert definition=searchAlb flush=true/

and the c_search_form.jsp throws the exception
[ServletException in:/WEB-INF/contents/c_search_form.jsp] Cannot find
bean org.apache.struts.taglib.html.BEAN in any scope'
cause by the line
%@ taglib uri=/tags/struts-html prefix=html %

Any ideas why ? Have I (can I) to define a scope in the tiles
definitions ?
The http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/struts-tiles.htm
did not help me at this point. Any RTFM-links are welcome ;-)

thx in advance and regards,
juri







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Re: Tiles scope issue with 'tile' scope

2002-06-25 Thread Cedric Dumoulin


  Thanks for the report, I will correct this problem asap.

   Cedric

Wellie W. Chao wrote:

 Hi Cedric,

 Replacing the beanScope=tile by beanScope=template seems to work. It
 seems the documentation is inconsistent -- there are references to using
 beanScope=tile. Thanks for the tip.

 Wellie

 On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:

  Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:51:50 +0200
  From: Cedric Dumoulin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Tiles scope issue with 'tile' scope
 
 
Hello,
 
The error occur during an insert, so it can be sent by the inserted jsp page.
  The tile scope can only be used in tiles tags. Check if you don't use it with
  other kind of tags.
Also, you can try to replace tile by a synonym template or component.
 
   Hope this help,
 
 Cedric
 
  Wellie W. Chao wrote:
 
   I recently upgraded to JBoss 3.0 final w/ Tomcat 4.0.3 and am now
   running into a problem with Tiles not recognizing the 'tile' scope. Here
   is a snippet from a JSP file:
  
 tiles:insert attribute=topNav
   tiles:put name=titleString beanName=titleString
   beanScope=tile/
   tiles:put name=menuTile beanName=menuTile beanScope=tile/
   tiles:put name=menuDefinition
  beanName=menuDefinition
  beanScope=tile/
   tiles:put name=selectedMenuItem
  beanName=selectedMenuItem
  beanScope=tile/
   tiles:put name=submenuTile beanName=submenuTile
   beanScope=tile/
   tiles:put name=submenuDefinition
  beanName=submenuDefinition
  beanScope=tile/
 /tiles:insert
  
   Here's the error I get:
  
   13:37:29,049 ERROR [Engine] ApplicationDispatcher[/pressroom]
   Servlet.service() for servlet jsp threw exception
   javax.servlet.ServletException: Error - scope translation tag :
   unrecognized scope 'tile'
   at
   org.apache.jasper.runtime.PageContextImpl.handlePageException(PageContex
   tImpl.java:471)
   at org.apache.jsp.topNav$jsp._jspService(topNav$jsp.java:227)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:107)
   at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWrapper.service(JspServle
   t.java:201)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:381)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:473)
   at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
   at
   org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.invoke(ApplicationDispatc
   her.java:683)
   at
   org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.doInclude(ApplicationDisp
   atcher.java:574)
   at
   org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.include(ApplicationDispat
   cher.java:497)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.runtime.JspRuntimeLibrary.include(JspRuntimeLibrary.ja
   va:820)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.runtime.PageContextImpl.include(PageContextImpl.java:3
   91)
   at
   org.apache.struts.taglib.tiles.InsertTag$InsertHandler.doEndTag(InsertTa
   g.java:757)
   at
   org.apache.struts.taglib.tiles.InsertTag.doEndTag(InsertTag.java:369)
   at
   org.apache.jsp.rootLayout$jsp._jspService(rootLayout$jsp.java:392)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:107)
   at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWrapper.service(JspServle
   t.java:201)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:381)
   at
   org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:473)
   at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
   at
   org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.invoke(ApplicationDispatc
   her.java:683)
   at
   org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.doForward(ApplicationDisp
   atcher.java:431)
   at
   org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.forward(ApplicationDispat
   cher.java:355)
   at
   org.apache.struts.tiles.TilesRequestProcessor.doForward(TilesRequestProc
   essor.java:181)
  
   Other than upgrading the JBoss 3.0 final, the only other change I made
   was to start using xdoclet to generate EJB deployment descriptors and
   boilerplate EJB classes. I didn't use it for the web deployment
   descriptors or web files though.
  
   Anyone ever experience this problem or have a recommendation on how to
   solve the problem? I want to place the attributes in the tile scope so
   that the inserted tile has access to the information. If there's another
   way to do this (while avoiding namespace clashes with other inserted
   tiles), I'd be open

Re: Tiles scope issue with 'tile' scope

2002-06-24 Thread Wellie W. Chao

Hi Cedric,

Replacing the beanScope=tile by beanScope=template seems to work. It
seems the documentation is inconsistent -- there are references to using
beanScope=tile. Thanks for the tip.

Wellie

On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Cedric Dumoulin wrote:

 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 16:51:50 +0200
 From: Cedric Dumoulin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Tiles scope issue with 'tile' scope


   Hello,

   The error occur during an insert, so it can be sent by the inserted jsp page.
 The tile scope can only be used in tiles tags. Check if you don't use it with
 other kind of tags.
   Also, you can try to replace tile by a synonym template or component.

  Hope this help,

Cedric

 Wellie W. Chao wrote:

  I recently upgraded to JBoss 3.0 final w/ Tomcat 4.0.3 and am now
  running into a problem with Tiles not recognizing the 'tile' scope. Here
  is a snippet from a JSP file:
 
tiles:insert attribute=topNav
  tiles:put name=titleString beanName=titleString
  beanScope=tile/
  tiles:put name=menuTile beanName=menuTile beanScope=tile/
  tiles:put name=menuDefinition
 beanName=menuDefinition
 beanScope=tile/
  tiles:put name=selectedMenuItem
 beanName=selectedMenuItem
 beanScope=tile/
  tiles:put name=submenuTile beanName=submenuTile
  beanScope=tile/
  tiles:put name=submenuDefinition
 beanName=submenuDefinition
 beanScope=tile/
/tiles:insert
 
  Here's the error I get:
 
  13:37:29,049 ERROR [Engine] ApplicationDispatcher[/pressroom]
  Servlet.service() for servlet jsp threw exception
  javax.servlet.ServletException: Error - scope translation tag :
  unrecognized scope 'tile'
  at
  org.apache.jasper.runtime.PageContextImpl.handlePageException(PageContex
  tImpl.java:471)
  at org.apache.jsp.topNav$jsp._jspService(topNav$jsp.java:227)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:107)
  at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWrapper.service(JspServle
  t.java:201)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:381)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:473)
  at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
  at
  org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.invoke(ApplicationDispatc
  her.java:683)
  at
  org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.doInclude(ApplicationDisp
  atcher.java:574)
  at
  org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.include(ApplicationDispat
  cher.java:497)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.runtime.JspRuntimeLibrary.include(JspRuntimeLibrary.ja
  va:820)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.runtime.PageContextImpl.include(PageContextImpl.java:3
  91)
  at
  org.apache.struts.taglib.tiles.InsertTag$InsertHandler.doEndTag(InsertTa
  g.java:757)
  at
  org.apache.struts.taglib.tiles.InsertTag.doEndTag(InsertTag.java:369)
  at
  org.apache.jsp.rootLayout$jsp._jspService(rootLayout$jsp.java:392)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:107)
  at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWrapper.service(JspServle
  t.java:201)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:381)
  at
  org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:473)
  at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
  at
  org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.invoke(ApplicationDispatc
  her.java:683)
  at
  org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.doForward(ApplicationDisp
  atcher.java:431)
  at
  org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationDispatcher.forward(ApplicationDispat
  cher.java:355)
  at
  org.apache.struts.tiles.TilesRequestProcessor.doForward(TilesRequestProc
  essor.java:181)
 
  Other than upgrading the JBoss 3.0 final, the only other change I made
  was to start using xdoclet to generate EJB deployment descriptors and
  boilerplate EJB classes. I didn't use it for the web deployment
  descriptors or web files though.
 
  Anyone ever experience this problem or have a recommendation on how to
  solve the problem? I want to place the attributes in the tile scope so
  that the inserted tile has access to the information. If there's another
  way to do this (while avoiding namespace clashes with other inserted
  tiles), I'd be open to that as well.
 
  Wellie
 
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