Re: [sugar] Keep error
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Arjun Sarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, When is a Keep error typically generated by Sugar ? When saving to the datastore is, for some reason, going wrong. Do you have logs of your activity when this happens? Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [PATCH] REVISED screenshots hurt
This seems like a decent, but lossy reduction. (Though I agree in full that the current behavior is far less than ideal.) There are still some ugly cases, though, which can't be fixed without compositing. Am I correct in thinking this assumes that the activity is visible while keep/close buttons or shortcuts are activated? If the user reveals the Frame and accesses these commands via the activity menu, the Frame will be in the screenshot. Moreover, they might be in another activity, or another zoom level entirely, and actually get misleading screenshots instead of none at all. Should we verify that the activity is the active one, and that the desktop is not shown, before taking an invalid screenshot? Also, when is compositing potentially coming? Is it necessary to do this for 8.2.1 if we'll have a far better solution which handles all cases in a release or two? - Eben On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devs, Attached to this email are both the original patch, which removes automated screenshot acquisition from the sugar shell, and a patch to activity.py in sugar-toolkit which adds screenshot acquisition to the user-directed 'keep' (save) event, so that the screenshot can appear in the journal when the user explicitly selects to save their work. Note that the keep event previously did not acquire a screenshot-- it was apparently assumed that it would have been acquired previously by a tabbing event. Additionally, two screenshots were acquired on every close event (one in the Shell.py code and one in the activity.py code). The effect of these patches is to retain the benefits of screenshots without incurring their costs on every window navigation event. Only user-directed 'close' and 'keep' events now trigger the screenshot. This means that there will always be screenshots after activities properly exit, or when the user elects to save data. Other automated screenshot events are removed so that system responsiveness does not suffer during window manager navigation. before, screenshots taken on these events: - frame visibility - tabbing start - activity next tab - activity previous tab - zoom into activity view - activity close (twice) after, screenshots taken on these events: - activity close (once) - activity keep / save Comments welcome. Please test and report results. Erik ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [PATCH] REVISED screenshots hurt
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: before, screenshots taken on these events: - frame visibility - tabbing start - activity next tab - activity previous tab - zoom into activity view - activity close (twice) after, screenshots taken on these events: - activity close (once) - activity keep / save perhaps a happy medium: - activity close (once, conditional) - activity keep (conditional) - activity hide (zoom out, switch, tabbing start) This drops the redundant one on close, eliminates it when revealing the frame or zooming in, and ignores toolbar switches, opting to capture it on keep/close only if the activity is shown at the time, and otherwise tries to grab one just before we leave the activity to another zoom level or activity. - Eben ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-09-08
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Oversight Board: The Sugar Labs Oversight Board meet on Friday (See the minutes at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/OversightBoard/Minutes#Friday_5_September_2008_-_14.00_.28UTC.29). The bulk of the discussion was in regard to the formation of committees: David Farning will organize/liaison with the Membership committee; Greg Dekoenigsberg will organize/liaison with the Events committee; Bernie Innocenti will organize/liaison with the Infrastructure committee; Simon Schampijer will organize/liaison with the Test committee; I will organize/liaison with the Deployment committee. Please contact us if you have interested in participating on one of these committees. The next meeting will be Friday, 19 September at 14:00 UTC (10 AM EST) on irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting—please join us. 2. Study on the impact of ICT on educational outcomes: I spent an hour on phone with Nitika Tolani-Brown, a Research Analyst with the International Development Program at the American Institutes for Research. She and her colleagues are conducting a comprehensive analysis of reliable research undertaken to date on the deployment of low-cost ICT to support education goals around the world with an emphasis on the developing world. The purpose of the study is to increase understanding of the impact of ICT on educational outcomes in children and adults and, ultimately, to generate an innovative research agenda to address salient issues. We discussed Sugar Labs, its goals and the status of the various Sugar deployments around the world. They are keen to get more input for their report. Feel free to contact Nitika (ntolani-brown AT air.org) with your thoughts on current projects as they relate to the use of ICT in educational settings within developing countries, any evaluations conducted on these projects (or evaluations of other projects that you may know of), as well as your perceptions on the challenges users and developers of ICT solutions face and the future of this field. Their report will be posted publicly towards the end of the calendar year. 3. Field reports: There have been some brief reports coming in from Sugar trials, notably Rodolfo Pilas's report on the olpc-sur list (http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2008-September/000614.html) and Waveplace blog (http://waveplace.com/news/blog/). Any and all feedback is enormously valuable: please speak up. 4. Regional Sugar development teams: There are several regional initiatives in the formative stages that are looking for feedback in terms of how to best structure themselves. In an effort to increase the level of participation in the developing world, it is being proposed to build local teams to work full time on the further development and support of Sugar as a vehicle both for advancing the opportunity for a quality education for the children of the region and to create a viable community around free and open-source software, a major movement internationally that is fueling innovative technology and economic growth, but that has yet to take root in much of the developing world. Local groups are seeking funding for three years, after which they expect to have a self-sustaining enterprise that also serves as a focal point for entrepreneurship and job creation. Any input on how to best structure such initiatives and from whence to seek funding would be appreciated. === Community jams and meetups === 5. FUDCon Brno 2008: Christoph Derndorfer reports from Brno that Sugar Labs had a strong presence at FUDCon (attending were Tomeu Vizoso, Marco Pesenti Gritti, Simon Schampijer, Bernie Innocenti—freshly back after 2 1/2 months of volunteering at OLE Nepal—Daniel Jahre, Christoph Derndorfer, and Greg deKoenigsberg). A presentation which focused on the Sugar platform, Sugar Labs and especially how the Fedora community can support the ongoing efforts was held at Saturday's barcamp. In addition Tomeu, Marco, Simon and Bernie spent a lot of time refining the 0.84 roadmap and feature plan. There were also many lively discussions about the current state of Sugar / Sugar Labs and many ideas, plans and to-dos for the weeks and months ahead were written down. They will be posted on the IAEP mailing-list and appropriate places in the wiki once everyone has recovered from FUDCon (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008). === Tech Talk === 6. Sucrose: Simon Schampijer reports that the Sugar release team has released the 0.82.1 Sucrose stable release (http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Releases/Sucrose/0.82.1). Owners of an XO can test it in in latest joyride or the stable 8.2 branch = 758. 7. Sugarbot: Zach Riggle reports progress on Sugarbot, a GUI automation utility for the automating the testing of Sugar Activities. Sugarbot supports continuous integration with Buildbot, so that multiple platforms and host configurations may be tested seamlessly; developers can more readily perform regression testing on their Activities, enhancing
Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Developing activities.
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 13:42, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My original proposal was to have a list dedicated to activity development. There was a lot of feedback on that suggesting that we should continue to use the sugar list for development discussion so as not to fragment the community. What I got out of the survey is that we need a way for activity developers to unsubscribe from the high-traffic lists but still get relevant notifications. A high percentage of these developers don't have the time to keep up with the daily traffic about the platform, but are missing the information that they need. For example, I'm not confident of reaching them all (including those that didn't answer the survey) with the survey results unless I mail them individually. Therefore I think a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list (which we used briefly at the start of the Sugar 0.82 cycle) is more relevant to them than an activities-specific list. It could also be used for packagers who only want to see major announcements (e.g. 0.82.1 released) and not the development discussion traffic. I have just noticed that there is a new [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, which must be new and unannounced since it's had precisely one mail to it: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2008-August/thread.html I do think we need it to be a sugarlabs list because the activity developers need to keep up with the Sugar platform more than the OLPC distro platform (with the exception of Rainbow I guess). What I want to get to now is finality on what I can go back to the activity authors and advise them. Remember that we have activity developers who are not using git hosting, who don't have XOs, and may only be using jhbuild or distro packages to develop and test their activities. I suggest: * subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and use to request git hosting on dev.laptop.org and discuss XO-specific issues (optional for activity developers) * subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to discuss the sugar platform development and activity development (recommended) * subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to receive notifications of the things I listed at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Morgs/Activities_survey/Recommendations#Mailing_Lists (essential) Regards Morgan Any comments? Can we go ahead and (re)create [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [PATCH] REVISED screenshots hurt
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps a happy medium: - activity close (once, conditional) - activity keep (conditional) - activity hide (zoom out, switch, tabbing start) This drops the redundant one on close, eliminates it when revealing the frame or zooming in, and ignores toolbar switches, opting to capture it on keep/close only if the activity is shown at the time, and otherwise tries to grab one just before we leave the activity to another zoom level or activity. I think for 8.2 we will only be able to accept a very simple solution. Without having looked into the code I'm afraid these conditionals might make the whole thing too complicated... Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Sugar deployment discussion
We'll be holding an initial discussion of how Sugar Labs can more directly help with Sugar deployments on irc.freenode.net (#sugar-meeting) on Wednesday, 10 Sept. at 14 UTC (10 EST). There is a draft agenda in the wiki: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam. Hope you can join us. regards. -walter ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] reading from pendrive
Hi list, During our last Ceibal Jam we got some feedback from teachers. One common request is related to transferring files from a pendrive to the XO. In the journal, the flat view is very uncomfortable and in cases with thousands of files it is difficult to locate the desired file. I wrote a proof-of-concept pendrive explorer that lets the user select a file using a traditional file navigator and copy it to the clipboard. It is very simple and has not been exhaustively tested, but it gets the job done and the initial user feedback is positive. It uses gtk.filechooserwidget and the code snippet from the journal that copies the uri to the clipboard. You can find it in http://iie.fing.edu.uy/~geirea/ceibaljam/LeerPendrive-1.xo I would appreciate your comments. Thank you, Gabriel ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Combined Sugar/XO manual outline
Hi all,
What follows is the flow of chapters (devised by Seth, Adam, Cynthia
and myself) for the Sugar / XO manual to (hopefully) be included on
the XO for G1G1.
Make all reviews, edits and contributions to these sections as soon as possible!
XO - Introduction
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Introduction
XO - About One Laptop per Child
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutOLPC
XO - About Computers
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutComputers
XO - How to Volunteer
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/HowToVolunteer
XO - Getting Started
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/GettingStarted
XO - Opening the XO
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/OpeningTheXO
XO - Ports [ to be made ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Ports
XO - Charging the Battery
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/ChargingBattery
XO - Starting the XO
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Starting
XO - Screen and Speakers
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Screen
XO - Keyboard [ to be made ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Keyboard
Sugar - The Sugar User Interface
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/Interface
Sugar - Home View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/HomeView
Sugar - Activity View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ActivityView
Sugar - Neighborhood View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/NeighbourhoodView
Sugar - Group View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/GroupView
Sugar - The Frame
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/TheFrame
Sugar - The Journal
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/TheJournal
Sugar - WHAT IS AN ACTIVITY?
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/WhatIsAnActivity
Sugar - Launching Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/LaunchingActivities
Sugar - Collaborating
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/Collaborating
Sugar - Switching Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/SwitichingActivities
Sugar - Exiting Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ExitingActivities
Sugar - Installing Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/InstallingActivities
Sugar - Activities Sampler
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/FindingActivities
XO - About Networks and the Internet [ overly technical ? ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutNetworksAndTheInternet
{Sugar - Getting Connected
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ConnectingNetwork
XO - Give Me the Internet, Please} merge
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/GiveMeTheInternet
{XO - External Hardware
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/ExternalHardware
XO - Which wireless devices may work well with my XO?} merge
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/RouterTable
XO - Troubleshooting Connectivity
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Troubleshooting
(and the activities listed at http://en.flossmanuals.net/ )
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Re: [sugar] Combined Sugar/XO manual outline
What about the Activity manuals?
-walter
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Brian Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
What follows is the flow of chapters (devised by Seth, Adam, Cynthia
and myself) for the Sugar / XO manual to (hopefully) be included on
the XO for G1G1.
Make all reviews, edits and contributions to these sections as soon as
possible!
XO - Introduction
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Introduction
XO - About One Laptop per Child
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutOLPC
XO - About Computers
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutComputers
XO - How to Volunteer
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/HowToVolunteer
XO - Getting Started
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/GettingStarted
XO - Opening the XO
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/OpeningTheXO
XO - Ports [ to be made ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Ports
XO - Charging the Battery
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/ChargingBattery
XO - Starting the XO
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Starting
XO - Screen and Speakers
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Screen
XO - Keyboard [ to be made ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Keyboard
Sugar - The Sugar User Interface
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/Interface
Sugar - Home View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/HomeView
Sugar - Activity View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ActivityView
Sugar - Neighborhood View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/NeighbourhoodView
Sugar - Group View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/GroupView
Sugar - The Frame
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/TheFrame
Sugar - The Journal
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/TheJournal
Sugar - WHAT IS AN ACTIVITY?
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/WhatIsAnActivity
Sugar - Launching Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/LaunchingActivities
Sugar - Collaborating
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/Collaborating
Sugar - Switching Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/SwitichingActivities
Sugar - Exiting Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ExitingActivities
Sugar - Installing Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/InstallingActivities
Sugar - Activities Sampler
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/FindingActivities
XO - About Networks and the Internet [ overly technical ? ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutNetworksAndTheInternet
{Sugar - Getting Connected
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ConnectingNetwork
XO - Give Me the Internet, Please} merge
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/GiveMeTheInternet
{XO - External Hardware
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/ExternalHardware
XO - Which wireless devices may work well with my XO?} merge
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/RouterTable
XO - Troubleshooting Connectivity
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Troubleshooting
(and the activities listed at http://en.flossmanuals.net/ )
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Re: [sugar] Combined Sugar/XO manual outline
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about the Activity manuals?
Ah, that was just me being lazy... I put at the end of my last email:
(and the activities listed at http://en.flossmanuals.net/ )
But for the sake of making it easier for others to find:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/write_activity
http://en.flossmanuals.net/terminal
http://en.flossmanuals.net/chat
http://en.flossmanuals.net/browse
http://en.flossmanuals.net/record
http://en.flossmanuals.net/turtleart
(not linking to individual chapters like with Sugar/XO because the
activity manuals are pretty stand-alone and their chapters shouldn't
need remixing)
-walter
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Brian Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
What follows is the flow of chapters (devised by Seth, Adam, Cynthia
and myself) for the Sugar / XO manual to (hopefully) be included on
the XO for G1G1.
Make all reviews, edits and contributions to these sections as soon as
possible!
XO - Introduction
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Introduction
XO - About One Laptop per Child
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutOLPC
XO - About Computers
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutComputers
XO - How to Volunteer
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/HowToVolunteer
XO - Getting Started
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/GettingStarted
XO - Opening the XO
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/OpeningTheXO
XO - Ports [ to be made ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Ports
XO - Charging the Battery
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/ChargingBattery
XO - Starting the XO
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Starting
XO - Screen and Speakers
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Screen
XO - Keyboard [ to be made ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Keyboard
Sugar - The Sugar User Interface
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/Interface
Sugar - Home View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/HomeView
Sugar - Activity View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ActivityView
Sugar - Neighborhood View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/NeighbourhoodView
Sugar - Group View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/GroupView
Sugar - The Frame
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/TheFrame
Sugar - The Journal
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/TheJournal
Sugar - WHAT IS AN ACTIVITY?
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/WhatIsAnActivity
Sugar - Launching Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/LaunchingActivities
Sugar - Collaborating
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/Collaborating
Sugar - Switching Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/SwitichingActivities
Sugar - Exiting Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ExitingActivities
Sugar - Installing Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/InstallingActivities
Sugar - Activities Sampler
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/FindingActivities
XO - About Networks and the Internet [ overly technical ? ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutNetworksAndTheInternet
{Sugar - Getting Connected
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ConnectingNetwork
XO - Give Me the Internet, Please} merge
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/GiveMeTheInternet
{XO - External Hardware
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/ExternalHardware
XO - Which wireless devices may work well with my XO?} merge
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/RouterTable
XO - Troubleshooting Connectivity
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Troubleshooting
(and the activities listed at http://en.flossmanuals.net/ )
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Re: [sugar] Fragmenting or providing a foothold?
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:13 AM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With this in mind, the goal of creating new mailing lists is not to fragment the existing community. It is to create footholds for other communities to develop around the central learning platform. It's about economies of attention. Clay Shirky and Yochai Benkler are probably the most insightful thinkers/writers on the matter. The bottom line is (in my reading and experience): - do not split the meeting point until the signal/noise becomes uneconomic for _most_ (not just for a loud minority) - do use tools that help individuals forage information better, so that the split point happens later in time In any case, communities are fragile and this is risky. Build up your own community and then try to split it. Splitting the lists built around laptop.org is going to be a lose/lose scenario, and you are playing with a social environment that has strong cohesion around laptop.org . In some aspects, it's like proposing a split in a political party. cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [OLPC library] Combined Sugar/XO manual outline
wowsa...looks good to me and certainly makes all that work worthwhile :)
can u give us some dates? i would like to be ready for the roll out, and
also for any PR that you will send out. It will be important to be
especially attentive to incoming requests at those times.
adam
On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 17:48 -0400, Brian Jordan wrote:
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about the Activity manuals?
Ah, that was just me being lazy... I put at the end of my last email:
(and the activities listed at http://en.flossmanuals.net/ )
But for the sake of making it easier for others to find:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/write_activity
http://en.flossmanuals.net/terminal
http://en.flossmanuals.net/chat
http://en.flossmanuals.net/browse
http://en.flossmanuals.net/record
http://en.flossmanuals.net/turtleart
(not linking to individual chapters like with Sugar/XO because the
activity manuals are pretty stand-alone and their chapters shouldn't
need remixing)
-walter
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Brian Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
What follows is the flow of chapters (devised by Seth, Adam, Cynthia
and myself) for the Sugar / XO manual to (hopefully) be included on
the XO for G1G1.
Make all reviews, edits and contributions to these sections as soon as
possible!
XO - Introduction
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Introduction
XO - About One Laptop per Child
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutOLPC
XO - About Computers
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutComputers
XO - How to Volunteer
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/HowToVolunteer
XO - Getting Started
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/GettingStarted
XO - Opening the XO
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/OpeningTheXO
XO - Ports [ to be made ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Ports
XO - Charging the Battery
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/ChargingBattery
XO - Starting the XO
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Starting
XO - Screen and Speakers
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Screen
XO - Keyboard [ to be made ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Keyboard
Sugar - The Sugar User Interface
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/Interface
Sugar - Home View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/HomeView
Sugar - Activity View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ActivityView
Sugar - Neighborhood View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/NeighbourhoodView
Sugar - Group View
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/GroupView
Sugar - The Frame
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/TheFrame
Sugar - The Journal
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/TheJournal
Sugar - WHAT IS AN ACTIVITY?
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/WhatIsAnActivity
Sugar - Launching Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/LaunchingActivities
Sugar - Collaborating
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/Collaborating
Sugar - Switching Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/SwitichingActivities
Sugar - Exiting Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ExitingActivities
Sugar - Installing Activities
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/InstallingActivities
Sugar - Activities Sampler
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/FindingActivities
XO - About Networks and the Internet [ overly technical ? ]
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/AboutNetworksAndTheInternet
{Sugar - Getting Connected
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/ConnectingNetwork
XO - Give Me the Internet, Please} merge
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/GiveMeTheInternet
{XO - External Hardware
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/ExternalHardware
XO - Which wireless devices may work well with my XO?} merge
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/RouterTable
XO - Troubleshooting Connectivity
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/XO/Troubleshooting
(and the activities listed at http://en.flossmanuals.net/ )
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Re: [sugar] Activity testing on current 8.2 build 759
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 03:18:29AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: == Paint-20 Could start? Yes Could stop? Yes Sound: N/A Activity resume: Useful state is restored Note: Very laggy when you try to draw, perhaps 1 to 2 seconds behind mouse movement! Currently quite unusable on XO hardware. == I've noticed this on 2263. Perhaps it's a result of mouse driver changes? Erik ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Activity testing on current 8.2 build 759
erik wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 03:18:29AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: == Paint-20 Could start? Yes Could stop? Yes Sound: N/A Activity resume: Useful state is restored Note: Very laggy when you try to draw, perhaps 1 to 2 seconds behind mouse movement! Currently quite unusable on XO hardware. I've noticed this on 2263. Perhaps it's a result of mouse driver changes? i don't think so. i tried it a bit with an external mouse -- the performance was similar. paul =- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Activity testing on current 8.2 build 759
On 9 Sep 2008, at 04:09, Erik Garrison wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 03:18:29AM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: == Paint-20 Could start? Yes Could stop? Yes Sound: N/A Activity resume: Useful state is restored Note: Very laggy when you try to draw, perhaps 1 to 2 seconds behind mouse movement! Currently quite unusable on XO hardware. == I've noticed this on 2263. Perhaps it's a result of mouse driver changes? Yea, pretty high possibility. It was suggested that with the new improved (higher frequency) of mouse tracking event messages, Paint is now unable to keep up it's drawing rate. The suggestion being Paints design needs a tweak so that it doesn't try to respond to every single mouse event. Oh dear I'm now really badly paraphrasing Jim Gettys, of all people, so I'll just stand back and point to his email earlier in the week incase you missed :-) http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-September/008100.html --G ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
