Re: [sugar] Dropped jhbuild support for Fedora 8 and Ubuntu 7.10
Marco, Support for Ubuntu 8.04 also seems to have been dropped (in http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=sugar-jhbuild;a=commitdiff;h=9cc90cdeaf8670a00dd2a3999239a7c0abf2ed24). Is this necessary due to unavailable packages or something? It is a LTS release (and I'm still using it). Also I think people are probably still using F9. Regards, Reinier Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Gadget requires a more recent version of glib than those shipped by these distro. The policy would be to keep support for 2 stable versions of Fedora and Ubuntu. Both new stable are going to be released pretty soon, so I hope this won't be too much of an issue. I turned off the Fedora 8 buildbot. I'll upgrade it to F10 when time permits (and I'm confident it's stable enough to not require too much maintenance). Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 25
Hi, I released a new version of Calculate, it's available at: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/calculate/Calculate-25.xo Sources are at: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-25.tar.bz2 NEWS entries: * Spell 'license' correctly Regards, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 24
Hi, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Reinier Heeres wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I released a new version of Calculate, it's available at: >> >> http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/calculate/Calculate-24.xo >> >> Sources are at: >> >> http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-24.tar.bz2 >> >> >> >> NEWS entries: >> >> * Division by 0 returns 'Undefined' >> * Make 'clear' and 'enter' translatable >> * Remove pseudo.po >> * Fix ne.po (newlines) >> * Fix translations that had taken mul_sym litterally >> * Add COPYING and AUTHORS >> * Update MANIFEST >> >> Regards, >> > > Hmm you did not use the sucrose branch for your release > http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/calculate;a=shortlog;h=sucrose-0.82 > Translators does push there. We need to get the translations you > modified into Pootle - because Pootle does not know how to resolve git > conflicts :/ It seems that pootle also doesn't push on this branch, right? Or did people work on a different branch in pootle. Sayamindu: is it possible for pootle to pull from git? I have been confused about the communication between git and pootle in general; I also modified the pot file by adding two strings that were in the source but untranslatable. > So maybe best revert this commit and send a note to the localization > list that the translators can push the changes themselves and then > release from the sucrose branch (or discuss with sayamindu how to go > best forward). I would not prefer to take this path since it will involve way more people than necessary and possibly be quite a bit slower. Cheers, Reinier > > Best, >Simon > > > -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 24
Hi, I released a new version of Calculate, it's available at: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/calculate/Calculate-24.xo Sources are at: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-24.tar.bz2 NEWS entries: * Division by 0 returns 'Undefined' * Make 'clear' and 'enter' translatable * Remove pseudo.po * Fix ne.po (newlines) * Fix translations that had taken mul_sym litterally * Add COPYING and AUTHORS * Update MANIFEST Regards, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 23
Hi, The Calculate-23 bundle should now include all necessary files due to the updated MANIFEST file. http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-23.tar.bz2 http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/Calculate-23.xo Regards, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 21
Hi, Did bundlebuilder stuff change? I think I never included the activity directory in the MANIFEST, but it got picked up anyway. Also, the locale files got included automatically, but fail to do so now... Cheers, Reinier Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/Calculate-21.xo > > That package is malformed - it lacks the 'activity' subdirectory > (including activity/activity.info). > > mikus -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 21
Hi, I have release Calculate 21, available at: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-21.tar.bz2 http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/Calculate-21.xo NEWS entries: * Updated translations Regards, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Another sugar rant
Hi, I believe this guy is the culprit: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgDBminWordLen Default minimum word length = 4. Cheers, Reinier (But still wikipedia's search function doesn't beat google by far) Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Eben Eliason wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Neil Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: >>>> Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it. It's Called >>>> X2o! >>>> it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake! Somebody >>>> either >>>> fix the search or just change the search box to go to google. >>>> >>>> >>> Are you sure? When I search for 'X2o' (case insensitive) I am taken >>> directly to the page you identified, bypassing any search results page >>> altogether. >>> >>> >> I have to agree with Neil. Entering X2o in the Wiki search box on the left >> hand side of wiki.laptop.org >> leads to no matches whatsoever. >> Searching laptop.org via Google gives the correct page as first hit. >> > > Sorry, my fault. I failed to realize that the enter key was bound to > the "Go" button instead of the "Search" button. You're right, I get > no results either. It's truly strange that it doesn't recognize the > page title direct match. In fact, I can even click on the 'X2o' in > the text where it says "You searched for X2o" and get linked to the > correct page! > > It sounds like a wiki bug, to me...has anyone filed one yet? If not, > I guess it should be done. > > - Eben > >> Ton van Overbeek >> >> -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 20
Hi, I have release Calculate 20, available at: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-20.tar.bz2 http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/Calculate-20.xo NEWS entries: * Updated translations * Fix bugs in Rational class (#7235) * Fixed #5902 (help msg) Regards, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Calculate 19 released
Hi, A version of calculate has be re-released: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-19.tar.bz2 Regards, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Activity proposal: Calculate
It still does! Regards, Reinier Walter Bender wrote: > It certainly used to... Sharing variables is pretty cool! > > -walter > > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Fairly well maintained judging from trac. It has educational value. >> It's part of the Peru activity pack. Personally I think it should be >> in. >> >> >> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Reinier Heeres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > * Short description of the features: >> > >> > - Mathematics for kids, both basic features and more advanced >> functionality. >> > - No major new features expected for Update.2. >> >> Does it support collaboration? >> >> Marco >> ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Activity proposal: Calculate
* Short description of the features: - Mathematics for kids, both basic features and more advanced functionality. - No major new features expected for Update.2. * Screenshots or screencasts: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Calculate_screenshot.jpg http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Calculate for more images * Are you willing to follow the Schedule? Yep * System components the activity depends on: sugar * Members of the developer team: Reinier * Status of internationalization: In pootle * Code repository: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/calculate;a=summary * Bug tracking system: calculator-activity in dev.laptop.org Trac Cheers, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Broken build
Hi all, jhbuild is a bit broken due to some issues with the i18n files. There's already a bug report about this (#5035). A quick fix (at least in read) is modifying the file po/pseudo.po: change the charset=CHARSET line in charset=UTF-8. I think this will probably need to get fixed in Pootle (soon). Cheers, Reinier ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Urgent: Need icons from some 3rd party activities
Sure, here it is for calculate. But couldn't you just have taken them from jhbuild or the wiki? Cheers, Reinier Eben Eliason wrote: Pentagram is in need of a few activity icons for the xogiving.org microsite. Would the developers of the following activities please attach the corresponding activity icons to this thread? Thanks! Block Party Calculate News Reader Watch & LIsten Turtle Art Additionally, if any of you are unsatisfied with your icons or would the like Sugar design team to clean up their appearance, please let us know. Thanks! - Eben, Pentagram ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel <>___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Error instaling calculate
Hi,
Thanks for noting this. I found this out a day or 2 ago as well. The
problem is that I forgot to git add that new file. I'm pushing the fix
in a short while.
Cheers,
Reinier
Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
> In the last days appear the following error instaling calculate with
> sugar-jhbuild (in Fedora 7)
>
> *** Installing calculate *** [1/1]
>
> make install
> python setup.py install /home/gonzalo/sugar/sugar-jhbuild/build
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "setup.py", line 3, in
> bundlebuilder.start('Calculate')
> File
> "/home/gonzalo/sugar/sugar-jhbuild/build/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/activity/bundlebuilder.py",
>
> line 388, in start
> cmd_install(bundle_name, manifest, sys.argv[2])
> File
> "/home/gonzalo/sugar/sugar-jhbuild/build/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/activity/bundlebuilder.py",
>
> line 196, in cmd_install
> cmd_dist(bundle_name, manifest)
> File
> "/home/gonzalo/sugar/sugar-jhbuild/build/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/activity/bundlebuilder.py",
>
> line 188, in cmd_dist
> bundle_zip.write(filename, os.path.join(base_dir, filename))
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/zipfile.py", line 541, in write
> st = os.stat(filename)
> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'eqnparserhelp.py'
> make: *** [install] Error 1
>
> Gonzalo Odiard
>
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Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate
Yoshiki, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > Reinier, > > Firstly, I apologize if my first email sounded too harsh to you. > (It definitely didn't mean to be personal.) > That's alright, I could have phrased it a little differently as well actually! I just think the two activities are suited for different things. Calculate is now more focussed on collaboration than the previous version, and the interface aims to resemble a calculator and expose the user to mathematics directly. Maybe I can include some extra educational features as well, like a help() command that explains things about functions. Pippy, for now, looks (to me) like a one-person activity, although I can imagine inclusion of a similar 'output-history' window to integrate the collaboration aspect. On the other hand, I was thinking about allowing user-written functions in Calculate as well. I guess part of the success of the TI89 style calculators is that children can program stuff for it. In the end, Calculate functionality might overlap a little with Pippy. However, some overlap should not be a problem: for example, I designed Calculate so that it's easy to implement arbitrary precision math in the future. The end-user will never have to adjust to this underlying change, and can just continue to think about the relevant aspect of the activity: math. >> Being the main Calculate developer, I don't agree on your opinion about >> Calculate. I think it deserves to be a separate activity. It's true that >> it was a little underdeveloped lately, but that was mainly because I was >> on a (long) holiday. The last couple of days have produced major >> improvements in Calculate: tab-completion of variable names, copy-paste, >> journal support, etc. (not sure if it made it into the build yet, did a >> release though: http://rwh.corps.nl/Calculate-7.xo). More new features >> are coming, for example I just started working on a plot() function (an >> obviously useful extension), which I estimate to be functioning >> somewhere next week. >> > > It was not so much as Calculate is underdeveloped or not, I > think. (Almost every end-user software including Etoys is > underdeveloped). But looking at the similarity of Pippy and Calculate, > for example the plot feature you are making could be beneficial for > both, right? And, you would wish to have a calculator whose syntax is > closer to Python, right? > I'm not sure. I think the main goal is to have the syntax as close to (written) math as possible. >> There seem to be some performace issues with Calculate on the XO. I >> haven't been able to profile these yet, but I expect them to be related >> to the way the application is shared (basic sharing should be >> functioning). This problem has the highest priority now... >> > > Yes. I filed a bug report for it. The length of old expressions > seems to be strongly affecting the performance. > > >> The equation parser I wrote isn't perfect yet either, although in >> general it does a pretty good job at parsing simple as well as more >> complex expressions. Please file bug reports if you notice weird behavior... >> > > Yes. I did it, too. It must be something to do with an error within > parenthesis. > I saw that and fixed it, thanks :-) > -- Yoshiki > Cheers, Reinier ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Pippy and Calculate
Hi there, Being the main Calculate developer, I don't agree on your opinion about Calculate. I think it deserves to be a separate activity. It's true that it was a little underdeveloped lately, but that was mainly because I was on a (long) holiday. The last couple of days have produced major improvements in Calculate: tab-completion of variable names, copy-paste, journal support, etc. (not sure if it made it into the build yet, did a release though: http://rwh.corps.nl/Calculate-7.xo). More new features are coming, for example I just started working on a plot() function (an obviously useful extension), which I estimate to be functioning somewhere next week. There seem to be some performace issues with Calculate on the XO. I haven't been able to profile these yet, but I expect them to be related to the way the application is shared (basic sharing should be functioning). This problem has the highest priority now... The equation parser I wrote isn't perfect yet either, although in general it does a pretty good job at parsing simple as well as more complex expressions. Please file bug reports if you notice weird behavior... Cheers, Reinier PS: And of course everybody who's willing to help out can let me know! Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > Hello, > > Now, we have Pippy. Into Pippy, the user can type simple > expressions with some mathematical functions there and execute the > expression. This means that there is large overlap between it and > Calculate. Since Calculate is overly under-developed and it has very > complicated interface, we can now think that we have an option to > remove it from the build without causing too much grief. > > Imagine if Pippy has a button called "Print!", which would be > located right next to the "Run!" button. And, if "Print!" prints out > the results of running the program into the bottom pane, that is > pretty much all we need. (For the record, the workspace in Etoys has > been there from day one for this purpose.) > > Some small input assistance may be a plus but having the software > keyboard for numbers is not a good idea anyway. > > We have a real problem of shortage of man-power, so replacing > smaller activities that take more time to maintain and document with > more powerful ones is probably a good thing. > > What do you think? > > -- Yoshiki > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > > > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] problem closing activity
Hi, I have trouble closing my activity under sugar-jhbuild. Seems to be related to the _get_preview function (should I do anything for that?). Anyway, the attached patch fixes the problem. Cheers, Reinier diff --git a/sugar/activity/activity.py b/sugar/activity/activity.py index 8a97199..3587795 100644 --- a/sugar/activity/activity.py +++ b/sugar/activity/activity.py @@ -312,6 +312,8 @@ class Activity(Window, gtk.Container): def _get_preview(self): preview_pixbuf = self.get_canvas_screenshot() +if preview_pixbuf is None: +return None preview_pixbuf = preview_pixbuf.scale_simple(units.grid_to_pixels(4), units.grid_to_pixels(3), gtk.gdk.INTERP_BILINEAR) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Using Git / downloading activities and Memory problems
Hi Yeong,
Looks to me you're trying to use 26 * 800 * 400 * 3 = 25MB of memory;
this might be the problem. Do you really need to have all those images
in memory at the same time?
(btw, black and white images likely reduce the factor 3 in the equation
to 1/8, so then you shouldn't have a problem).
Cheers,
Reinier
Yeong Haur Kok wrote:
> Hi Ivan,
>
> > are preloading an array of 26 images ~32K each and this crashes on the
> > olpc.
>
> Please provide more details. Memory allocation shouldn't *crash* the
> machine under any (reasonable set of) circumstances; the OOM killer
> might kick in and destroy a few processes, however. In your case, you're
> allocating less than a meg, so something is certainly wrong if it's
> crashing. What kind of crash are you getting? Can you post the code and
> the images somewhere where we can test this?
> The program runs when images are scaled to 600 x 250 (using the gtk
> scale_simple function) or smaller. When we try to scale up to larger
> dimensions - e.g. 800 x 400 - it crashes. The application simply exits
> on it own.
>
> I tried replacing the images (to be loaded into the array) with
> smaller size (~19k) black and white images and the program runs
> alright. But when these are replaced with color images of similar
> size, the same problem occurs.
>
> Here's the relevant part of code, KEY_X and KEY_Y are the image
> dimensions we're trying to scale up (default 600 x 250):
>
>
> self.dict_pixbuf = {}
> alphastring = "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz"
>
> for i in range(len(alphastring)):
> letter = alphastring[i]
> self.dict_pixbuf[letter] =
> gtk.gdk.pixbuf_new_from_file(IMAGE_SOURCE + os.sep + "keypress" +
> os.sep + letter.upper() + ".gif").scale_simple(KEY_X, KEY_Y,
> gtk.gdk.INTERP_BILINEAR)
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks!
>
>
> yh
>
> On 6/22/07, *Ivan Krstić* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> Hi Aneto,
>
> Aneto Okonkwo wrote:
> > I have been having difficulty installing git on windows. Does
> anyone
> > have any instructions I can use to download and set it up?
>
> Git still relies on a mudball of shell and Perl scripts, so getting it
> running under Windows proper is an uphill battle. The recommended
> way to
> do it is to first set up Cygwin, which might be more trouble than
> you're
> willing to go through. Even then, it'll run quite slowly because of
> certain FS ops being substantially slower on Windows than on Linux.
>
> > Alternatively is there anyway to use git on the olpc itself,
> does anyone
> > have those instructions?
>
> As root, 'yum install git-core' should do it.
>
> > are preloading an array of 26 images ~32K each and this crashes
> on the
> > olpc.
>
> Please provide more details. Memory allocation shouldn't *crash* the
> machine under any (reasonable set of) circumstances; the OOM killer
> might kick in and destroy a few processes, however. In your case,
> you're
> allocating less than a meg, so something is certainly wrong if it's
> crashing. What kind of crash are you getting? Can you post the
> code and
> the images somewhere where we can test this?
>
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> > | GPG: 0x147C722D
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