Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] [Localization] OLPC, Chile and Educalibre

2008-11-27 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On 27.11.2008, at 08:50, Edward Cherlin wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 I suggest you approach Chuck Kane at OLPC directly. If for some  
 reason
 he cannot accommodate the request, then we should discuss alternative
 means to deploy Sugar.

 -walter

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 (from Werner Westermann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

 Best regards from Santiago, Chile.

 In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools  
 program of the
 Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked  
 Educalibre
 (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project.  
 Enlaces previously met
 with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000  
 XOs. We went on to
 develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative  
 (Enlaces required us
 to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among  
 others):

 http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile

 Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated,  
 because as Brightstar
 distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it  
 would not be possible for
 the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a  
 minimum of 10,000 XO.
 Faced with this sudden change of turn and the impossibility of  
 buying that quantity
 off-budget, Enlaces decided to discard the possibility that the XO  
 came into the hands
 of our children.

 This is perfectly idiotic. The Give Many page

 http://laptop.org/en/participate/give-many.shtml

 says

 The Give Many program allows donors to bring one laptop per child to
 whole classes and schools, and includes Give 100 and Give 1,000
 programs. It offers hundreds of students a new way of learning that is
 creative, collaborative and self-empowered.

*  - $219 per laptop to OLPC partner countries and LDCs
* - $259 per laptop to the rest of the world


 Every donation of 100 or more laptops includes spare parts. Donations
 of 1,000 laptops or more are eligible for in-person assistance from
 OLPC staff.

 To become a Give Many donor, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your
 project timeline, and with details about the receiving school or
 group.

 Doesn't anybody at OLPC pay attention to what they tell the public?


This version of the give many program is only up for a day or so. It  
is indeed much nicer than the previous one:
==
To give 100 or more laptops and direct them to a location you  
designate, send email to givemany at laptop.org

Give 100+ $310 per laptop

Give 1000+ $260 per laptop

Give 10,000+ $210 per laptop

In each case, the donor designates where the laptops are sent.

For general information about the many ways you can give laptops  
through the One Laptop per Child Foundation, please send email to  
service at laptopgiving.org

==

- Bert -

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Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] [Localization] OLPC, Chile and Educalibre

2008-11-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This version of the give many program is only up for a day or so. It is
 indeed much nicer than the previous one:
 ==
 To give 100 or more laptops and direct them to a location you designate,
 send email to givemany at laptop.org

 Give 100+ $310 per laptop

 Give 1000+ $260 per laptop

 Give 10,000+ $210 per laptop

 In each case, the donor designates where the laptops are sent.

 For general information about the many ways you can give laptops through the
 One Laptop per Child Foundation, please send email to service at
 laptopgiving.org

 ==

 - Bert -

Can we confirm this with Brightstar? The starting point of this thread
was that they said the minimum order is 10,000 units.

And is it still cash in advance without a shipping date until months later?

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (from Werner Westermann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

 Best regards from Santiago, Chile.

 In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools program of the
 Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked Educalibre
 (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project. Enlaces 
 previously met
 with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000 XOs. We 
 went on to
 develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative (Enlaces 
 required us
 to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among others):

 http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile

 Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated, because as 
 Brightstar
 distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it would not be 
 possible for
 the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a minimum of 
 10,000 XO.
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And Children are my nation.
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Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] [Localization] OLPC, Chile and Educalibre

2008-11-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I suggest you approach Chuck Kane at OLPC directly. If for some reason
 he cannot accommodate the request, then we should discuss alternative
 means to deploy Sugar.

 -walter

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (from Werner Westermann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

 Best regards from Santiago, Chile.

 In May of this year, we had exciting news where the ICT-Schools program of 
 the
 Department of Education, Enlaces (http://www.enlaces.cl), asked Educalibre
 (http://www.educalibre.cl/) to propose a OLPC deployment project. Enlaces 
 previously met
 with a OLPC and Brightstar representatives asuring a total of 1000 XOs. We 
 went on to
 develop the proposal and negociate where to deploy the iniciative (Enlaces 
 required us
 to engage rural areas, outside of the Metropolitan Area, among others):

 http://wiki.educalibre.cl/index.php/Propuesta_OLPC_Chile

 Unfortunately, as you can see, the proposal was frustrated, because as 
 Brightstar
 distributor and partner of the OLPC Foundation, argued that it would not be 
 possible for
 the Chilean State to purchase only 1,000 XOs, but would consider a minimum 
 of 10,000 XO.
 Faced with this sudden change of turn and the impossibility of buying that 
 quantity
 off-budget, Enlaces decided to discard the possibility that the XO came into 
 the hands
 of our children.

This is perfectly idiotic. The Give Many page

http://laptop.org/en/participate/give-many.shtml

says

The Give Many program allows donors to bring one laptop per child to
whole classes and schools, and includes Give 100 and Give 1,000
programs. It offers hundreds of students a new way of learning that is
creative, collaborative and self-empowered.

*  - $219 per laptop to OLPC partner countries and LDCs
* - $259 per laptop to the rest of the world


Every donation of 100 or more laptops includes spare parts. Donations
of 1,000 laptops or more are eligible for in-person assistance from
OLPC staff.

To become a Give Many donor, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your
project timeline, and with details about the receiving school or
group.

Doesn't anybody at OLPC pay attention to what they tell the public?

 Seeing pilots open in Latin America (Paraguay, Colombia, Nicaragua) promoted 
 by NGOs or
 other non-profit institutions, we are once again dreaming of implementing an 
 OLPC pilot
 in Chile. Educalibre has been formalized as an NGO Corporation and also has 
 the support
 of other NGOs that relate to free culture 
 (http://www.derechosdigitales.org/) and
 pedagogical universities (http://www.ucsh.cl/). We have certainty of being 
 able to
 gather the financial and human resources to successfully depploy OLPC in 
 Chile.

 How and through what channel we can raise a formal proposal to deploy OLPC 
 in Chile?

 To whom can we turn for this possibility?

 With harmless envy, we watch (and also colaborate) how OLPC can be a real 
 strategy to
 transform education, teaching, and especially, children's learning. From 
 here we want to
 join and contribute in that process. I look forward to your contact.

 Best regards,

 Werner Westermann Juárez
 ONG Corporación Educalibre
 http://www.educalibre.cl
 (+562) 632 3660
 (+5609) 7 805 7501


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