Re: [sugar] [OLPC library] Things I would like taken away from the wiki: Sign-up lists
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 04:23:04PM -0400, Seth Woodworth wrote: There are few policies that we've been implementing from time to time on the wiki that I would like to see go away. It's my belief that these policies are hard to maintain, ill-scalable, and unsupportable as-is. I suggest that we retire the following: == Sign up lists == * Lists where people are encouraged to sign up to do a task or contribute to a given project. There are several projects and pages that suggest that you sign-up to help do '$variable'. There are several problems with this idea. There is no automatic mechanism in place to communicate to users who sign up on a list. If I wanted to send a message to this list, I would have to wade through User_talk: pages and communicate with each person individually each time I want to make an announcement. This is compounded by the fact that many users don't sign the page or add a link to their user page, and merely type their names. We can say sign with . I feel that a projects should have open task lists or joining a list or some other mechanism than a sign up list. Alternatively, if someone were to create a bot or tool that makes this ad-hoc list broadcasting function (including making sure people are notified via email), I would be ecstatic. Such bots are in existance on the english wikipedia, they are also open source. The issue is that people don't know how easy it is to start a lists.l.o mailing list, we need to make that more obvious. That could fix much of this issue. -FFM ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [OLPC library] Things I would like taken away from the wiki: Sign-up lists
create a bot or tool that makes this ad-hoc list broadcasting function (including making sure people are notified via email), I would be ecstatic. Such bots are in existance on the english wikipedia, they are also open source. The issue is that people don't know how easy it is to start a lists.l.o mailing list, we need to make that more obvious. That could fix much of this issue. Yes, they exist. But to create and maintain a bot, and then teaching people to use it, and giving permissions to post to given lists of people? It's a complex structure that does not currently exist and would be *more* work to administer by hand. My point remains. The lists that exist on the wiki now, detract from volunteering and currently provide no benefit as currently used. ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [OLPC library] Things I would like taken away from the wiki: Sign-up lists
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 05:21:37PM -0400, Seth Woodworth wrote: create a bot or tool that makes this ad-hoc list broadcasting function (including making sure people are notified via email), I would be ecstatic. Such bots are in existance on the english wikipedia, they are also open source. The issue is that people don't know how easy it is to start a lists.l.o mailing list, we need to make that more obvious. That could fix much of this issue. Yes, they exist. But to create and maintain a bot, and then teaching people to use it, and giving permissions to post to given lists of people? It's a complex structure that does not currently exist and would be *more* work to administer by hand. My point remains. The lists that exist on the wiki now, detract from volunteering and currently provide no benefit as currently used. Ok, so the only other option for notification of users are mailing lists. The issue is that the process for creating a list is non-streamlined, and soon we'd have a huge amount of mailing lists at lists.l.o. I think tasklists are good as well (on wiki). -FFM ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
