[sugar] [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul.

2008-05-11 Thread Wade Brainerd
This tangent came about when I couldn't launch Browse from the shell,
and couldn't figure out why because of the crazy ANSI escape codes in
the stack trace in the Log viewer.

The patch is almost a complete rewrite, it may be easier to see the
changes from the bundle - http://www.wadeb.com/Log-7.xo

Best,
Wade


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Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul.

2008-05-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello,

Eduardo has been maintaining the log viewer in the past but I think he
is busy with work these. Perhaps you could volunteer to take
maintenance over or to co-maintain :)

Eduardo, what do you think? Do you have time to review the patch?

Marco

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This tangent came about when I couldn't launch Browse from the shell,
>  and couldn't figure out why because of the crazy ANSI escape codes in
>  the stack trace in the Log viewer.
>
>  The patch is almost a complete rewrite, it may be easier to see the
>  changes from the bundle - http://www.wadeb.com/Log-7.xo
>
>  Best,
>  Wade
>
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Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul.

2008-05-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
I'm happy to co-maintain.  Eduardo, were you planning to integrate
more stuff from Memphis into Log Viewer?  I don't want to interfere
with that work of course.

Off topic- 'Log Viewer Activity' does not fit in the activity
toolbar's title entry.  I have seen this problem with other activities
as well.  Can we consider expanding the default size of this entry, or
else dropping the word 'Activity' from the default titles?

Best,

Wade

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  Eduardo has been maintaining the log viewer in the past but I think he
>  is busy with work these. Perhaps you could volunteer to take
>  maintenance over or to co-maintain :)
>
>  Eduardo, what do you think? Do you have time to review the patch?
>
>  Marco
>
>
>
>  On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > This tangent came about when I couldn't launch Browse from the shell,
>  >  and couldn't figure out why because of the crazy ANSI escape codes in
>  >  the stack trace in the Log viewer.
>  >
>  >  The patch is almost a complete rewrite, it may be easier to see the
>  >  changes from the bundle - http://www.wadeb.com/Log-7.xo
>  >
>  >  Best,
>  >  Wade
>  >
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Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul.

2008-05-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm happy to co-maintain.  Eduardo, were you planning to integrate
>  more stuff from Memphis into Log Viewer?  I don't want to interfere
>  with that work of course.

I don't think so. Most of the memphis stuff should be in Analyze
rather than in the log viewer.

>  Off topic- 'Log Viewer Activity' does not fit in the activity
>  toolbar's title entry.  I have seen this problem with other activities
>  as well.  Can we consider expanding the default size of this entry, or
>  else dropping the word 'Activity' from the default titles?

Eben, can/should we drop "Activity" from the toolbar? Double word
activity will be pretty common I think, since a verb is often not
enough to describe it properly.

Marco
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Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul.

2008-05-13 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > I'm happy to co-maintain.  Eduardo, were you planning to integrate
>  >  more stuff from Memphis into Log Viewer?  I don't want to interfere
>  >  with that work of course.
>
>  I don't think so. Most of the memphis stuff should be in Analyze
>  rather than in the log viewer.
>
>
>  >  Off topic- 'Log Viewer Activity' does not fit in the activity
>  >  toolbar's title entry.  I have seen this problem with other activities
>  >  as well.  Can we consider expanding the default size of this entry, or
>  >  else dropping the word 'Activity' from the default titles?
>
>  Eben, can/should we drop "Activity" from the toolbar? Double word
>  activity will be pretty common I think, since a verb is often not
>  enough to describe it properly.

Three points. =)

1. There is currently no reason for the arbitrarily short entry field.
 We can (should) definitely expand it.
2. We really should *not* be appending "activity" to the title at all.
 In fact, that seems to be the wrong message.  If anything, we would
want to append something like "instance" instead.  But, that aside,
what I really want is .info support for suggested (and translated)
default titles!  I've brought this up before, and again recently in
the ML.  Perhaps homunq can add support for this and activity tags
when he plays with the bundle spec?
3. We need to revisit the possibility of abandoning the activity
toolbar itself, in favor of a non-modal (or modal?) title request
alert and a host of features (keep, share, name, tag, etc) within the
palette for the activity in the Frame instead.  We could probably do
this along with the new design if we decide it's the right thing to
do.  I think we need the alert even if we don't drop the toolbar.

- Eben
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Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul.

2008-05-13 Thread Wade Brainerd
If we go with the 'Please enter a title for this activity' alert,
would it be possible to add a simple one-click way to say 'Don't
keep'?

This might help with the Journal pollution issue.

-Wade

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > I'm happy to co-maintain.  Eduardo, were you planning to integrate
>>  >  more stuff from Memphis into Log Viewer?  I don't want to interfere
>>  >  with that work of course.
>>
>>  I don't think so. Most of the memphis stuff should be in Analyze
>>  rather than in the log viewer.
>>
>>
>>  >  Off topic- 'Log Viewer Activity' does not fit in the activity
>>  >  toolbar's title entry.  I have seen this problem with other activities
>>  >  as well.  Can we consider expanding the default size of this entry, or
>>  >  else dropping the word 'Activity' from the default titles?
>>
>>  Eben, can/should we drop "Activity" from the toolbar? Double word
>>  activity will be pretty common I think, since a verb is often not
>>  enough to describe it properly.
>
> Three points. =)
>
> 1. There is currently no reason for the arbitrarily short entry field.
>  We can (should) definitely expand it.
> 2. We really should *not* be appending "activity" to the title at all.
>  In fact, that seems to be the wrong message.  If anything, we would
> want to append something like "instance" instead.  But, that aside,
> what I really want is .info support for suggested (and translated)
> default titles!  I've brought this up before, and again recently in
> the ML.  Perhaps homunq can add support for this and activity tags
> when he plays with the bundle spec?
> 3. We need to revisit the possibility of abandoning the activity
> toolbar itself, in favor of a non-modal (or modal?) title request
> alert and a host of features (keep, share, name, tag, etc) within the
> palette for the activity in the Frame instead.  We could probably do
> this along with the new design if we decide it's the right thing to
> do.  I think we need the alert even if we don't drop the toolbar.
>
> - Eben
>
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