Re: [sugar] Another sugar rant
Hi, I believe this guy is the culprit: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgDBminWordLen Default minimum word length = 4. Cheers, Reinier (But still wikipedia's search function doesn't beat google by far) Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Eben Eliason wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Neil Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it. It's Called X2o! it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake! Somebody either fix the search or just change the search box to go to google. >>> Are you sure? When I search for 'X2o' (case insensitive) I am taken >>> directly to the page you identified, bypassing any search results page >>> altogether. >>> >>> >> I have to agree with Neil. Entering X2o in the Wiki search box on the left >> hand side of wiki.laptop.org >> leads to no matches whatsoever. >> Searching laptop.org via Google gives the correct page as first hit. >> > > Sorry, my fault. I failed to realize that the enter key was bound to > the "Go" button instead of the "Search" button. You're right, I get > no results either. It's truly strange that it doesn't recognize the > page title direct match. In fact, I can even click on the 'X2o' in > the text where it says "You searched for X2o" and get linked to the > correct page! > > It sounds like a wiki bug, to me...has anyone filed one yet? If not, > I guess it should be done. > > - Eben > >> Ton van Overbeek >> >> -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Another sugar rant
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben Eliason wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Neil Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: >>> Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it. It's Called >>> X2o! >>> it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake! Somebody >>> either >>> fix the search or just change the search box to go to google. >>> >> >> Are you sure? When I search for 'X2o' (case insensitive) I am taken >> directly to the page you identified, bypassing any search results page >> altogether. >> > > I have to agree with Neil. Entering X2o in the Wiki search box on the left > hand side of wiki.laptop.org > leads to no matches whatsoever. > Searching laptop.org via Google gives the correct page as first hit. Sorry, my fault. I failed to realize that the enter key was bound to the "Go" button instead of the "Search" button. You're right, I get no results either. It's truly strange that it doesn't recognize the page title direct match. In fact, I can even click on the 'X2o' in the text where it says "You searched for X2o" and get linked to the correct page! It sounds like a wiki bug, to me...has anyone filed one yet? If not, I guess it should be done. - Eben > Ton van Overbeek > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Another sugar rant (was: x2o physics problem solving game)
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Neil Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: > Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it. It's Called X2o! > it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake! Somebody either > fix the search or just change the search box to go to google. Are you sure? When I search for 'X2o' (case insensitive) I am taken directly to the page you identified, bypassing any search results page altogether. > With regards to using activities on the XO I've tried to be accepting of the > sugar interface style, but this activity crystallizes things for me. I'm now > prepared to move to the sugar-sucks camp. I've used many and written a few I think nearly all of us are in the sugar-sucks-but-is-still-changing-lives-and-we're-gonna-do-everything-in-our-power-to-make-it-rock camp. We like it when people move from the sugar-sucks camp into ours! ;) > I'd like to be clear that I don't think there is anything done poorly in the > X2o activity itself. I think it all comes from having the sugar interface. > The more I encounter sugar interfaced programs, the more I think Activities > would be better off with just about anything else. Specific examples would be extremely beneficial here. Is it the fullscreen nature of the window? The toolbars? (Note, there's another interesting design proposed for these: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Toolbars) The GTK theme? There's lots of stuff missing still, but feedback on the particulars of what's already there would be great. > I gave myself a long time to acclimatise, much longer than I would have for > anything else, because the XO is really quite important. I really believe in > the goals of the OLPC project, but I cant use the XO effectively! My daughter > can't use the XO effectively! Perhaps you mean "efficiently"? (Most of us would agree with you, there.) However, there are certainly thousands of kids using them effectively despite the inefficiencies and bugs; the work we see coming back from deployments proves this, and keeps all of us going with the hope of making it far better in the future -- perhaps even effective and efficient enough for us "spoiled" folk. =) > At what point does a do-over make more sense? I was prepared to take the > resource usage and the slow bits and the joke that is the journal because > they were all things that future work would have addressed. The cumbersome > user interface is a killer though because it's designed to be like that. Again, without examples a rant is nothing but hot air. What parts are so fundamentally broken that not even future software updates could fix them? The Journal is a pretty good example of a fundamental part of the system that's mostly non-functional at present, but we have some good designs for it (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Journal) and I expect that, at some point, hopefully soon, we'll also have the resources to implement them. - Eben ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
