Re: [sugar] Design Question
> It was near unanimous to default to the Ring. The thread was picked up > and shared with the "sur" list (thanks Andres) where everyone including > kids agreed. The ring is "good looking". But an option for a 'triangle'? Someone had time on their hands. mikus p.s. The 'spiral' looks too squished. There should be more space between the "streams" of icons. Maybe even multiple "arms", such as can be seen in pictures of spiral galaxies. ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 07:04:46AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi Martin et al, > > It was near unanimous to default to the Ring. [...] > There is a bug open now to default to Ring: #7759. Thanks for mentioning the bug. I've updated the bug and pushed bobby's patch to sugar-toolkit git. > Thanks a lot for asking. Thanks very much for starting the discussion and responding/ending it clearly. > Thanks, > > Greg S Martin pgpMbsXMFGjte.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
Hi Martin et al, It was near unanimous to default to the Ring. The thread was picked up and shared with the "sur" list (thanks Andres) where everyone including kids agreed. One person said they like the freeform but their kids liked ring so they went with ring. There was a little more discussion with some people on the Sur list about how many activities fit in the ring. There is a bug open now to default to Ring: #7759. Thanks a lot for asking. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Greg S > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:06:21 +0100 > From: Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [sugar] Design Question > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: sugar > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Can I get a quick +1/-1 on this question related to >> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7331 > [...] >> Vote for your favorite as "default first exposure to OX" and let's see >> if we are close to consensus... > > What was the outcome? > >> Thanks, >> >> Greg S > > Martin > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi All, > > Can I get a quick +1/-1 on this question related to > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7331 [...] > Vote for your favorite as "default first exposure to OX" and let's see > if we are close to consensus... What was the outcome? > Thanks, > > Greg S Martin pgpF81YzgLgh5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png +1 Cheers!, Santiago signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
Am 20.07.2008 um 14:14 schrieb Alexander Ortner: > +1 for the ring > > > (i am new to open source, so please be patient with me) > > i know this question doesn't really belong here, but: why was the > sugar UI changed? can i find a discussion about this anywhere? the > new version lost the frame, didn't it? at least it'S not there in my > sugar jhbuild env. > The former Alt short cuts are Alt-Shift now. - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
+1 for the ring (i am new to open source, so please be patient with me) i know this question doesn't really belong here, but: why was the sugar UI changed? can i find a discussion about this anywhere? the new version lost the frame, didn't it? at least it'S not there in my sugar jhbuild env. regards, ali ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Brian Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 for ring view... but as an "every-activity-on-your-computer" ring, > rather than by default having nothing shown, by default have every > activity shown. You should never have nothing in the ring by default. If you reproduced such a case, it's a bug and it should be reported. Thanks, Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
+1 for ring view... but as an "every-activity-on-your-computer" ring, rather than by default having nothing shown, by default have every activity shown. On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Can I get a quick +1/-1 on this question related to > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7331 > > The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to > pick one to default on first upgrade or install. > > Choices are: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Freeform_View8.2.png > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_List_View8.2.png > > from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0 > > Vote for your favorite as "default first exposure to OX" and let's see > if we are close to consensus... > > Votes from teachers and kids count double :-) > > Thanks, > > Greg S > > > > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Works quite well here in a MP with last joyride. Just did some light > testing, though. I've also tested it (lightly) on 3 machines running Joyride ~2170. > Tomeu > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not good news. I don't recall that anything should have changed >> between B4 and the C series that would have impacted Record. I'll have >> to check it out on more machines... >> >> -walter >> >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 19 Jul 2008, at 00:18, Walter Bender wrote: >>> (Now that we have a reasonably stable joyride-with a working Record activity again-I'll try to get a quick user study pulled together in Peru on this topic by someone less bias than myself.) >>> >>> Hmmm, not convinced Record-55 is working well enough yet (Joyride-2174), >>> unless it's just failing on my B4 hardware. I get everything from a black >>> feed, to a green/purple stripy feed. Not managed to actually record anything >>> with it yet. Doesn't seem to help launching Record first after a reboot and >>> with no other activities (think that was one of the open bugs). just did that (boot then launch record) and it worked alright for me (on a MP machine). bobby >>> --Gary >>> >>> >> ___ >> Sugar mailing list >> Sugar@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar >> > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi All, > > Can I get a quick +1/-1 on this question related to > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7331 > > The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to > pick one to default on first upgrade or install. > > Choices are: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Freeform_View8.2.png > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_List_View8.2.png ring++ ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
Works quite well here in a MP with last joyride. Just did some light testing, though. Tomeu On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not good news. I don't recall that anything should have changed > between B4 and the C series that would have impacted Record. I'll have > to check it out on more machines... > > -walter > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 19 Jul 2008, at 00:18, Walter Bender wrote: >> >>> (Now that we have a reasonably stable joyride-with a working Record >>> activity again-I'll try to get a quick user study pulled together in >>> Peru on this topic by someone less bias than myself.) >> >> Hmmm, not convinced Record-55 is working well enough yet (Joyride-2174), >> unless it's just failing on my B4 hardware. I get everything from a black >> feed, to a green/purple stripy feed. Not managed to actually record anything >> with it yet. Doesn't seem to help launching Record first after a reboot and >> with no other activities (think that was one of the open bugs). >> >> --Gary >> >> > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
Not good news. I don't recall that anything should have changed between B4 and the C series that would have impacted Record. I'll have to check it out on more machines... -walter On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19 Jul 2008, at 00:18, Walter Bender wrote: > >> (Now that we have a reasonably stable joyride-with a working Record >> activity again-I'll try to get a quick user study pulled together in >> Peru on this topic by someone less bias than myself.) > > Hmmm, not convinced Record-55 is working well enough yet (Joyride-2174), > unless it's just failing on my B4 hardware. I get everything from a black > feed, to a green/purple stripy feed. Not managed to actually record anything > with it yet. Doesn't seem to help launching Record first after a reboot and > with no other activities (think that was one of the open bugs). > > --Gary > > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On 19 Jul 2008, at 00:18, Walter Bender wrote: > (Now that we have a reasonably stable joyride-with a working Record > activity again-I'll try to get a quick user study pulled together in > Peru on this topic by someone less bias than myself.) Hmmm, not convinced Record-55 is working well enough yet (Joyride-2174), unless it's just failing on my B4 hardware. I get everything from a black feed, to a green/purple stripy feed. Not managed to actually record anything with it yet. Doesn't seem to help launching Record first after a reboot and with no other activities (think that was one of the open bugs). --Gary ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Andrés Ambrois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 18 July 2008 18:34:55 Andrés Ambrois wrote: >> On Friday 18 July 2008 17:53:31 Greg Smith wrote: >> > Votes from teachers and kids count double :-) >> >> I've transcribed your poll to olpc-sur, I'll post again with the results >> from there :) > > From Rosamel Ramírez, a teacher in Durazno, Uruguay: > > "Me gusta el diseño de distribución circular, es menos estructurado que el > tercero, pero no tan disperso como el primero" > > I like the circular distribution design, it's less structured than the third > one, but not as disperse as the first. > > +2 to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png +1 for the ring view, like everyone else. I'm still a kid at heart, does that mean I can get 1.5 votes? bobby > -- > -Andrés > > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Friday 18 July 2008 18:34:55 Andrés Ambrois wrote: > On Friday 18 July 2008 17:53:31 Greg Smith wrote: > > Votes from teachers and kids count double :-) > > I've transcribed your poll to olpc-sur, I'll post again with the results > from there :) From Rosamel Ramírez, a teacher in Durazno, Uruguay: "Me gusta el diseño de distribución circular, es menos estructurado que el tercero, pero no tan disperso como el primero" I like the circular distribution design, it's less structured than the third one, but not as disperse as the first. +2 to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png -- -Andrés signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
+1 for the ring view 2008/7/18 Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > +1 for the ring > -10 for random > > -walter > > (Now that we have a reasonably stable joyride-with a working Record > activity again-I'll try to get a quick user study pulled together in > Peru on this topic by someone less bias than myself.) > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Marco Pesenti Gritti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Martin Dengler >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: [...] > The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to > pick one to default on first upgrade or install. [...] > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png +1 >>> >>> +1 >> >> +1 for the ring view! >> >> -- >> Bastien >> ___ >> Sugar mailing list >> Sugar@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar >> > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > -- María del Pilar Sáenz OLPC Colombia http://colombiaolpc.org http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Colombia http://slcolombia.org/OLPC Grupo de Simulación de Sistemas Físicos http://www.ssf.unal.edu.co Linux User #414129 http://slcolombia.org El sitio de software Libre en Colombia ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
+1 for the ring -10 for random -walter (Now that we have a reasonably stable joyride-with a working Record activity again-I'll try to get a quick user study pulled together in Peru on this topic by someone less bias than myself.) On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Marco Pesenti Gritti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Martin Dengler >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >>> [...] The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to pick one to default on first upgrade or install. >>> [...] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png >>> >>> +1 >> >> +1 > > +1 for the ring view! > > -- > Bastien > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
"Marco Pesenti Gritti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Martin Dengler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >> [...] >>> The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to >>> pick one to default on first upgrade or install. >> [...] >>> >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png >> >> +1 > > +1 +1 for the ring view! -- Bastien ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 16:53 -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi All, > > Can I get a quick +1/-1 on this question related to > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7331 > > The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to > pick one to default on first upgrade or install. > > Choices are: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Freeform_View8.2.png > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_List_View8.2.png > > from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0 > > Vote for your favorite as "default first exposure to OX" and let's see > if we are close to consensus... > > Votes from teachers and kids count double :-) > quote from Emily Fisher age 7 'Oh cool, I can see 'em all' +2 for the Ring view :) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Martin Dengler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > > [...] > >> The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to > >> pick one to default on first upgrade or install. > > [...] > >> > >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png > > > > +1 > > +1 > >+1 for the Ring view :) > Marco > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: > [...] >> The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to >> pick one to default on first upgrade or install. > [...] >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png > > +1 +1 Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:53:31PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: [...] > The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to > pick one to default on first upgrade or install. [...] > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png +1 > Thanks, > > Greg S Martin pgpcbfn7aWYUD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 04:58:02PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Greg Smith wrote: > | The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. > > Really? The home view top bar will show three buttons, for three > different views? This is news to me, though not bad news. I accidentally discovered the fact that if one clicks on the three-blocks/other-than-the-list icon in the Home/Favorites/old-ring view, one gets to choose which layout one wants. I found that after I manually edited ~/.sugar/default/config to say: [Shell] favoriteslayout = ring-layout ...of course, by Sod's law. Perhaps this is what Greg's referring to. > - --Ben > (bemasc) Martin pgpe93BaPcgmS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Design Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Smith wrote: | The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. Really? The home view top bar will show three buttons, for three different views? This is news to me, though not bad news. | Vote for your favorite as "default first exposure to OX" Really? Here, on the mailing list? Ring. - --Ben (bemasc) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkiBA9oACgkQUJT6e6HFtqQTYACeNdIOkQYlN9CJigniqhaD/MK1 6MMAn0CUMHX462MqC5ZiELZzXRF80sP8 =qqRn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Design Question
Hi All, Can I get a quick +1/-1 on this question related to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7331 The new Home View in 8.2.0 will have three available styles. We need to pick one to default on first upgrade or install. Choices are: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Freeform_View8.2.png http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_Ring_View8.2.png http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Home_List_View8.2.png from: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0 Vote for your favorite as "default first exposure to OX" and let's see if we are close to consensus... Votes from teachers and kids count double :-) Thanks, Greg S ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
