[sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
This year's G1G1 program will start November 17 in the US. Please help us spread the word. Below is a short email blurb about this year's program ( from [[G1G1 2008/text]] ). We are coordinating some community art and outreach on the grassroots list as well (http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots). There will be a lunch outreach meeting about G1G1 in #olpc on irc.freenode.net this Friday at 1200 EST (and @ 1CC for those in the area); sign up if you think you can make it, or leave your thoughts about what we should cover / who we should contact / what we can do better this time around: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/G1G1_meetings For giving, SJ = One Laptop per Child is launching its second ''Give 1, Get 1'' [G1G1] program starting November 17, 2008, following last year's popular program which received donations from over 80,000 people. This year the XO laptops will be shipped to donors through Amazon.com. The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, running on a Linux-based Fedora Core operating system. For answers to frequently asked questions, and for other XO giving programs, see the OLPC wiki. More on G1G1 2008: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/G1G1_2008 More about the XO: http://laptop.org/en/laptop/ Photos, stories and other media from the first year's deployments are available from a community media page and from the OLPC photostream. If you have been involved with a deployment, please contribute your own. OLPC's Flickr photostream: http://flickr.com/photos/olpc Contribute & share media: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_media ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
2008/10/8 Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ... > > I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager", > Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified > by OLPC. Some suggestions: > > - learning environment, intuitive student's learning environment, interactive student's learning environment, international student's learning environment, All to be pronounced the same as "Isle". A small island. imho the word 'Sugar' should be avoided simply because it's completely meaningless to an uninitiated target audience. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
is there anything like a poster/flyer in high resolution PDF? p. Samuel Klein wrote: > This year's G1G1 program will start November 17 in the US. Please > help us spread the word. Below is a short email blurb about this > year's program ( from [[G1G1 2008/text]] ). We are coordinating some > community art and outreach on the grassroots list as well > (http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots). > > There will be a lunch outreach meeting about G1G1 in #olpc on > irc.freenode.net this Friday at 1200 EST (and @ 1CC for those in the > area); sign up if you think you can make it, or leave your thoughts > about what we should cover / who we should contact / what we can do > better this time around: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/G1G1_meetings > > For giving, >SJ > > = > > One Laptop per Child is launching its second ''Give 1, Get 1'' [G1G1] > program starting November 17, 2008, following last year's popular > program which received donations from over 80,000 people. This year > the XO laptops will be shipped to donors through Amazon.com. > > The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, running > on a Linux-based Fedora Core operating system. For answers to frequently > asked questions, and for other XO giving programs, see the OLPC wiki. > > More on G1G1 2008: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/G1G1_2008 > More about the XO: http://laptop.org/en/laptop/ > > > Photos, stories and other media from the first year's deployments are > available from a community media page and from the OLPC photostream. > If you have been involved with a deployment, please contribute your own. > > OLPC's Flickr photostream: http://flickr.com/photos/olpc > Contribute & share media: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_media > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > -- Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos Graduate student Viral Communications MIT Media Lab Tel: +1 (617) 459-6058 http://www.mit.edu/~ypod/ ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ... I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager", Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified by OLPC. Some suggestions: - learning environment, - collaborative user interface, etc Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" +1 Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 23:49, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, running > on a Linux-based Fedora Core operating system. For answers to frequently > asked questions, and for other XO giving programs, see the OLPC wiki. Just Fedora, not Fedora Core... Regards Morgan ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" -walter On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ... > > I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager", > Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified > by OLPC. Some suggestions: > > - learning environment, > - collaborative user interface, > > etc > > Regards, > > Tomeu > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
Not yet... if someone wants to make a pdf from that page, this would rock. Something to discuss on Friday. As for window manager v. learning platform... an updated [[Glossary]] isn't a bad idea. SJ On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there anything like a poster/flyer in high resolution PDF? > > p. > > Samuel Klein wrote: >> >> This year's G1G1 program will start November 17 in the US. Please >> help us spread the word. Below is a short email blurb about this >> year's program ( from [[G1G1 2008/text]] ). We are coordinating some >> community art and outreach on the grassroots list as well >> (http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots). >> >> There will be a lunch outreach meeting about G1G1 in #olpc on >> irc.freenode.net this Friday at 1200 EST (and @ 1CC for those in the >> area); sign up if you think you can make it, or leave your thoughts >> about what we should cover / who we should contact / what we can do >> better this time around: >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/G1G1_meetings >> >> For giving, >> SJ >> >> = >> >> One Laptop per Child is launching its second ''Give 1, Get 1'' [G1G1] >> program starting November 17, 2008, following last year's popular >> program which received donations from over 80,000 people. This year >> the XO laptops will be shipped to donors through Amazon.com. >> >> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, >> running >> on a Linux-based Fedora Core operating system. For answers to frequently >> asked questions, and for other XO giving programs, see the OLPC wiki. >> >> More on G1G1 2008: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/G1G1_2008 >> More about the XO: http://laptop.org/en/laptop/ >> >> >> Photos, stories and other media from the first year's deployments are >> available from a community media page and from the OLPC photostream. >> If you have been involved with a deployment, please contribute your own. >> >> OLPC's Flickr photostream: http://flickr.com/photos/olpc >> Contribute & share media: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Community_media >> ___ >> Sugar mailing list >> Sugar@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar >> > > -- > Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos > Graduate student > Viral Communications > MIT Media Lab > Tel: +1 (617) 459-6058 > http://www.mit.edu/~ypod/ > > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on "platform" vs. "environment"; the latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.) - Eben > -walter > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ... >> >> I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager", >> Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified >> by OLPC. Some suggestions: >> >> - learning environment, >> - collaborative user interface, >> >> etc >> >> Regards, >> >> Tomeu >> ___ >> Sugar mailing list >> Sugar@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar >> > > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" > > +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on "platform" vs. "environment"; the > latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.) I guess in platform Sugar would be supporting learning, where in environment Sugar would be where learning happens. I would vote for platform, as the learning really happens inside the user. Regards, Tomeu > - Eben > >> -walter >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ... >>> >>> I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager", >>> Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified >>> by OLPC. Some suggestions: >>> >>> - learning environment, >>> - collaborative user interface, >>> >>> etc >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tomeu >>> ___ >>> Sugar mailing list >>> Sugar@lists.laptop.org >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
This is also a Sugar Labs branding issue. Sugar Learning Platform does a better job of conveying we are not a stand alone solution. We are a common point of collaboration on which educators and developers build solutions for their own unique classrooms and situations. thanks david On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" > > > > +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on "platform" vs. "environment"; the > > latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.) > > I guess in platform Sugar would be supporting learning, where in > environment Sugar would be where learning happens. I would vote for > platform, as the learning really happens inside the user. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > > > - Eben > > > >> -walter > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, > ... > >>> > >>> I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager", > >>> Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified > >>> by OLPC. Some suggestions: > >>> > >>> - learning environment, > >>> - collaborative user interface, > >>> > >>> etc > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Tomeu > >>> ___ > >>> Sugar mailing list > >>> Sugar@lists.laptop.org > >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Walter Bender > >> Sugar Labs > >> http://www.sugarlabs.org > >> ___ > >> Devel mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > >> > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
I prefer platform since I think the platform is a key element in the overall environment. -walter On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 12:11 PM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is also a Sugar Labs branding issue. Sugar Learning Platform does a > better job of conveying we are not a stand alone solution. We are a common > point of collaboration on which educators and developers build solutions for > their own unique classrooms and situations. > > thanks > david > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> >> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" >> > >> > +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on "platform" vs. "environment"; the >> > latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.) >> >> I guess in platform Sugar would be supporting learning, where in >> environment Sugar would be where learning happens. I would vote for >> platform, as the learning really happens inside the user. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tomeu >> >> >> > - Eben >> > >> >> -walter >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, >> ... >> >>> >> >>> I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager", >> >>> Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified >> >>> by OLPC. Some suggestions: >> >>> >> >>> - learning environment, >> >>> - collaborative user interface, >> >>> >> >>> etc >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Tomeu >> >>> ___ >> >>> Sugar mailing list >> >>> Sugar@lists.laptop.org >> >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Walter Bender >> >> Sugar Labs >> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> >> ___ >> >> Devel mailing list >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> >> > >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
> >> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" And my laundress prefers "fabric revitalization consultant". Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws icons and decorations on the screen, starts and stops programs, and lets you turn control knobs. The things Sugar competes with aren't learning platforms, they're user interfaces, like Gnome or Hildon. John ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:52, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" > > +1 from me as well. (I'm torn on "platform" vs. "environment"; the > latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.) Because I often miss some (or all) of a discussion I wasn't going to weigh in. However, I am also inclined towards "environment" being a more generally understood and inviting word. "Platform" means something to techies -- often a combination of architecture and OS, and I suppose desktop manager, on which applications run. (It means something else entirely to political wonks.) "Environment," especially for something that is "an education project, not a laptop project" seems a better fit wherever possible. ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" > > And my laundress prefers "fabric revitalization consultant". > > Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws I find your first statement wholly contestable. Moreover, the two (user interface, learning; or, stated differently, what Sugar /is/ and what Sugar /is about/) are by no means mutually exclusive. If any one of us thought that Sugar was nothing more than a different way to draw some stuff on a screen, why would we bother? The Sugar interface, as with all interfaces (or, good ones), provides a means to an end; Our end is learning. > icons and decorations on the screen, starts and stops programs, and > lets you turn control knobs. The things Sugar competes with aren't > learning platforms, they're user interfaces, like Gnome or Hildon. That really depends on who's judging the competition, or perhaps, who's even holding one. I don't much care to compete with Gnome. - Eben >John > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
John Gilmore wrote: I prefer "the Sugar learning platform" > > And my laundress prefers "fabric revitalization consultant". > > Sugar isn't about learning. Sugar is a user interface. It draws > icons and decorations on the screen, starts and stops programs, and > lets you turn control knobs. The things Sugar competes with aren't > learning platforms, they're user interfaces, like Gnome or Hildon. > At first, it sounds like your correct, but I think you're not. Gnome is a general-purpose desktop environment, hildon is gear towards mobile interfaces on small screen real estate, and Sugar is an environment with a focus on collaboration and abstraction of concepts such as "files" and "user accounts". As such, it could sustain a learning process better than other "general purpose" environments. Pol -- Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos Graduate student Viral Communications MIT Media Lab Tel: +1 (617) 459-6058 http://www.mit.edu/~ypod/ ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008
Tomeu Vizoso schrieb: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ... >> > > I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager", > Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified > by OLPC. Some suggestions: > > - learning environment, > - collaborative user interface, > > etc > > Regards, > > Tomeu > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > How about "Sugar user interface"? ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
