Re: [sugar] Log Viewer - View Log? (Was: [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul)
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Eduardo H Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forking the thread here, but I wonder if this activity could be renamed to something more closely following the verb standard, like View log(s)? Nitpick perhaps, but goes along my opinion that our dictionaries don't have enough verbs to exactly identify all activities that will appear, so adding a noun when necessary would improve things. How about Inspect or Diagnose? We have Analyze already, which is a separate activity. View Logs sounds good to me. Eben? Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Log Viewer - View Log? (Was: [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul)
marco pesenti gritti wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Eduardo H Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forking the thread here, but I wonder if this activity could be renamed to something more closely following the verb standard, like View log(s)? Nitpick perhaps, but goes along my opinion that our dictionaries don't have enough verbs to exactly identify all activities that will appear, so adding a noun when necessary would improve things. How about Inspect or Diagnose? We have Analyze already, which is a separate activity. View Logs sounds good to me. Eben? since you bring it up, in my opinion Analyze suffers from incomplete naming as well. analyze what? though i know i've learned it twice before, to be honest i can't at the moment remember what it does -- all i can think of is that it's going to let me do some kind of science experiment. but it's something to do with system statistics or resources right? seems to me that names either have to be quite unrelated to preconceptions of their meaning (TamTam, Pippy), or fairly descriptive (Read, Browse, Calculate). and as eduardo points out, there aren't enough verbs to use verbs alone for descriptive names. paul =- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 52.5 degrees) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Log Viewer - View Log? (Was: [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul)
Hi Guys, I've missed this thread... , if some contributor wants to improve VIEW LOG(S) please feel free to do it, there's so many missed features that can be done... ATM I'm re-coding memphis in order to use new metrics found in the latest kernels, if you want I can retake Analize Activity and improve it a little bit... cheers. Eduardo. On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marco pesenti gritti wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Eduardo H Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forking the thread here, but I wonder if this activity could be renamed to something more closely following the verb standard, like View log(s)? Nitpick perhaps, but goes along my opinion that our dictionaries don't have enough verbs to exactly identify all activities that will appear, so adding a noun when necessary would improve things. How about Inspect or Diagnose? We have Analyze already, which is a separate activity. View Logs sounds good to me. Eben? since you bring it up, in my opinion Analyze suffers from incomplete naming as well. analyze what? though i know i've learned it twice before, to be honest i can't at the moment remember what it does -- all i can think of is that it's going to let me do some kind of science experiment. but it's something to do with system statistics or resources right? seems to me that names either have to be quite unrelated to preconceptions of their meaning (TamTam, Pippy), or fairly descriptive (Read, Browse, Calculate). and as eduardo points out, there aren't enough verbs to use verbs alone for descriptive names. paul =- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 52.5 degrees) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Log Viewer - View Log? (Was: [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul)
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Eduardo Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I've missed this thread... , if some contributor wants to improve VIEW LOG(S) please feel free to do it, there's so many missed features that can be done... ATM I'm re-coding memphis in order to use new metrics found in the latest kernels, if you want I can retake Analize Activity and improve it a little bit... Thanks Eduardo. Wade, so I think it's OK to go ahead and get your patch in. Also if you want to propose log-activity for 0.82 that would be great. Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Log Viewer - View Log? (Was: [PATCH] Log Viewer overhaul)
2008/5/13, Wade Brainerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm happy to co-maintain. Eduardo, were you planning to integrate more stuff from Memphis into Log Viewer? I don't want to interfere with that work of course. Off topic- 'Log Viewer Activity' does not fit in the activity toolbar's title entry. I have seen this problem with other activities as well. Can we consider expanding the default size of this entry, or else dropping the word 'Activity' from the default titles? Forking the thread here, but I wonder if this activity could be renamed to something more closely following the verb standard, like View log(s)? Nitpick perhaps, but goes along my opinion that our dictionaries don't have enough verbs to exactly identify all activities that will appear, so adding a noun when necessary would improve things. Best, Wade Eduardo On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Eduardo has been maintaining the log viewer in the past but I think he is busy with work these. Perhaps you could volunteer to take maintenance over or to co-maintain :) Eduardo, what do you think? Do you have time to review the patch? Marco On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Wade Brainerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This tangent came about when I couldn't launch Browse from the shell, and couldn't figure out why because of the crazy ANSI escape codes in the stack trace in the Log viewer. The patch is almost a complete rewrite, it may be easier to see the changes from the bundle - http://www.wadeb.com/Log-7.xo Best, Wade ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
