Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Hi Greg,
On 7 Aug 2008, at 12:16, Greg Smith wrote:
> For the list, I don't know what version of Write or Browse I have on
> this XO. How do I determine that?
Hmmm, no one else seems to have answered you here yet, so here's an
old (and quite long) single line Terminal command I had generated a
while back to list all Activity versions installed anywhere on an XO,
hope it's of help (feel free to post it to a wiki somewhere if you
think it may be useful to others, though obviously not needed on newer
os images thanks to the home page list view):
sudo find / -name activity.info -exec grep -H activity_version {} \;
2> /dev/null | sed 's/\.activity\/activity\/activity
\.info:activity_version = /-/' | sed 's/.*\///' | sort
This will show something like the below output; note that you may see
some duplicate activities when they are stored out of the olpc home
directory (i.e down in /usr/share/sugar/), this is due to the run and
pristine file system hard link alternate boot image trickery, see
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Filesystem
for some pretty pictures.
AcousticMeasure-12
Analyze-5
Bounce-5
Browse-95
Calculate-23
Chat-45
Colors-3
Develop-34
Etoys-87
Journal-96
Journal-96
Log-13
Maze-5
Measure-17
Model-8
Moon-3
NewsReader-24
Paint-19
Pippy-25
Read-49
Record-56
Speak-5
StarChart-4
TamTamEdit-49
TamTamJam-50
TamTamMini-48
TamTamSynthLab-50
Terminal-15
TurtleArt-7
Words-2
Write-57
--Gary
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Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Hi Guys, Great question! So basic but so relevant! I don't think its just the image size, but I'm open to suggestions. I found one way using build 703 to get an image off the web and in to write. Open Browse and go to the page you want to get the image from. Then hold down the shift key and click the mouse button and hold it down. Then drag the image to the frame and drop it there. Now you should have a clipboard image stye icon on the frame. Mouse over it and choose add to the journal. Then open write, choose the image tab and click the insert image option. I don't know if that is meant to be supported (e.g. the drag and drop is not reliable in many cases) but it worked for me on 703. In my experience, there are several areas of instability you want to be aware of in the 656 and possibly 703 releases. The clipboard can get confused about what type of file it has and which one is the paste target. So I had to remove everything else from the clipboard before it decided that the image was the paste target. Even so it I couldn't paste it with control-v in to Write. When the journal is big it sometimes doesn't open. I think that is more relevant to 656 than 703 but its something to be aware of. That may block you from getting something off the journal in to write with the file chooser. Its a work around, but seemed to work for me :-) For the list, I don't know what version of Write or Browse I have on this XO. How do I determine that? HTHs. Try getting an image and text from Write on to a web page sometime too Thanks, Greg S -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:07:16 -0500 From: Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sugar@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Martin Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Think that write might not allow the image to be imported if > it is too big. Can you tell me how large the images are? What are their > dimensions in pixels? We've had had the same issue in Ha?ti, with both 656 and 703 builds, and with images as taken with the Record activity (I don't know ths size and dimensions.) Is this fixed in newer (stable) builds? -- Bastien -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:22:59 +1000 From: Martin Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training To: grisel carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: sugar@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:45 +1000, grisel carreira wrote: > Hi Gary, > > The versions I am using are: > - Sugar v.1.703 > - WikiBrowse v.9, and > - Write v.55. > > Thanks > Grisel > Hi Grisel, There is a good chance this is fixed in the current joyride 8.20 builds. Clearly we need to get these out to you. A work around until then would be to reduce the size of the images or to only select images that are 640x480 or smaller. I'm almost certain these will work as this is the size of images made with the camera. Cheers Martin > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Hi Grisel, > > > On 6 Aug 2008, at 23:42, grisel carreira wrote: > > Hi there, > Please let me know if I should direct the questions to > someone else since I > haven't received any response. (see below) > Cheers, > Grisel > > > Sorry, this probably doesn't help... I'm running a very new > development build (joyride-2258) and it seems to be running as > hoped. > > Using Browse-94, visiting Google images, right clicking and > selecting copy on several images into the clipboard, then > starting a new Write-56 activity and dragging in the images > with the mouse one by one (see attached screen shot for the > not so masterpiece result). > > Can you say what version of the Sugar operating system you are > using? Also Browse version and Write version would be good. > > > > > Hi there, > I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue > island. > One basic activity we set up on the teacher training > was to get pictures > from Google images, save them to the journal and > upload them into Write by > using the Image tab, insert facility b
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:22 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: > > There is a good chance this is fixed in the current joyride > 8.20 builds. Clearly we need to get these out to you. I can't seem to remember any backport in AbiWord I did that would be related to this. Perhaps your memory is better than mine? Marc ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:45 +1000, grisel carreira wrote: > Hi Gary, > > The versions I am using are: > - Sugar v.1.703 > - WikiBrowse v.9, and > - Write v.55. > > Thanks > Grisel > Hi Grisel, There is a good chance this is fixed in the current joyride 8.20 builds. Clearly we need to get these out to you. A work around until then would be to reduce the size of the images or to only select images that are 640x480 or smaller. I'm almost certain these will work as this is the size of images made with the camera. Cheers Martin > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Hi Grisel, > > > On 6 Aug 2008, at 23:42, grisel carreira wrote: > > Hi there, > Please let me know if I should direct the questions to > someone else since I > haven't received any response. (see below) > Cheers, > Grisel > > > Sorry, this probably doesn't help... I'm running a very new > development build (joyride-2258) and it seems to be running as > hoped. > > Using Browse-94, visiting Google images, right clicking and > selecting copy on several images into the clipboard, then > starting a new Write-56 activity and dragging in the images > with the mouse one by one (see attached screen shot for the > not so masterpiece result). > > Can you say what version of the Sugar operating system you are > using? Also Browse version and Write version would be good. > > > > > Hi there, > I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue > island. > One basic activity we set up on the teacher training > was to get pictures > from Google images, save them to the journal and > upload them into Write by > using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt > work. We tried various > ways: > - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document > - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write > - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - > although it will save > it as a picture in the journal it will still not > insert it in write -well, > it will insert it but it can not be viewed. > - combination of the above. > Could you please send us details of how to deal with > this basic activity of > having people inserting images into 'write' which are > not coming from > pictures being taken from the OLPC. > It will be great if you can get us an answer by > tomorrow which is our last > day of training. > Thanks heaps, > Grisel > > --Gary > > > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Martin Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Think that write might not allow the image to be imported if > it is too big. Can you tell me how large the images are? What are their > dimensions in pixels? We've had had the same issue in Haïti, with both 656 and 703 builds, and with images as taken with the Record activity (I don't know ths size and dimensions.) Is this fixed in newer (stable) builds? -- Bastien ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
HI Grisel, Think that write might not allow the image to be imported if it is too big. Can you tell me how large the images are? What are their dimensions in pixels? Thanks! Martin On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:42 +1000, grisel carreira wrote: > Hi there, > Please let me know if I should direct the questions to someone else > since I haven't received any response. (see below) > Cheers, > Grisel > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: grisel carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:53 PM > Subject: Question about write from Niue -OLPC training > To: sugar@lists.laptop.org > > > Hi there, > I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue island. > One basic activity we set up on the teacher training was to get > pictures from Google images, save them to the journal and upload them > into Write by using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt work. > We tried various ways: > - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document > - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write > - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - although it > will save it as a picture in the journal it will still not insert it > in write -well, it will insert it but it can not be viewed. > - combination of the above. > Could you please send us details of how to deal with this basic > activity of having people inserting images into 'write' which are not > coming from pictures being taken from the OLPC. > It will be great if you can get us an answer by tomorrow which is our > last day of training. > Thanks heaps, > Grisel > > > > ___ > Sugar mailing list > Sugar@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Hi Gary, The versions I am using are: - Sugar v.1.703 - WikiBrowse v.9, and - Write v.55. Thanks Grisel On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Grisel, > > On 6 Aug 2008, at 23:42, grisel carreira wrote: > > Hi there, >> Please let me know if I should direct the questions to someone else since >> I >> haven't received any response. (see below) >> Cheers, >> Grisel >> > > Sorry, this probably doesn't help... I'm running a very new development > build (joyride-2258) and it seems to be running as hoped. > > Using Browse-94, visiting Google images, right clicking and selecting copy > on several images into the clipboard, then starting a new Write-56 activity > and dragging in the images with the mouse one by one (see attached screen > shot for the not so masterpiece result). > > Can you say what version of the Sugar operating system you are using? Also > Browse version and Write version would be good. > > > > > Hi there, >> I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue island. >> One basic activity we set up on the teacher training was to get pictures >> from Google images, save them to the journal and upload them into Write by >> using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt work. We tried various >> ways: >> - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document >> - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write >> - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - although it will >> save >> it as a picture in the journal it will still not insert it in write -well, >> it will insert it but it can not be viewed. >> - combination of the above. >> Could you please send us details of how to deal with this basic activity >> of >> having people inserting images into 'write' which are not coming from >> pictures being taken from the OLPC. >> It will be great if you can get us an answer by tomorrow which is our last >> day of training. >> Thanks heaps, >> Grisel >> > > --Gary > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Hi there, Please let me know if I should direct the questions to someone else since I haven't received any response. (see below) Cheers, Grisel -- Forwarded message -- From: grisel carreira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:53 PM Subject: Question about write from Niue -OLPC training To: sugar@lists.laptop.org Hi there, I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue island. One basic activity we set up on the teacher training was to get pictures from Google images, save them to the journal and upload them into Write by using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt work. We tried various ways: - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - although it will save it as a picture in the journal it will still not insert it in write -well, it will insert it but it can not be viewed. - combination of the above. Could you please send us details of how to deal with this basic activity of having people inserting images into 'write' which are not coming from pictures being taken from the OLPC. It will be great if you can get us an answer by tomorrow which is our last day of training. Thanks heaps, Grisel ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
