Re: [sugar] RTL blocker for 8.2.0?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Greg, > > you marked one the RTL tickets as a blocker. Is RTL support in general > considered a release blocker? If so, probably most or all of the > tickets on the RTL tracker bug should be marked as such (and there > might very well be more). > > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6808 > Just FYI - machines which are shipped to Afghanistan/Pakistan will certainly need RTL support. -sdg- -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] RTL blocker for 8.2.0?
Am 24.07.2008 um 14:55 schrieb Khaled Hosny: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:55:27PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: >> Hi Guys, >> >> RTL is a blocker and it should be all RTL issues unless we can show >> that >> they are cosmetic or there is an acceptable work around. >> >> The reason they are show stoppers is that we have major Arabic >> deployments planned for this fall and winter (northern hemisphere). >> >> I believe these are regression bugs in that RTL works correctly >> (better?) in previous releases. > > AFAIK, most RTL bugs are there from the start. > >> What do we need to do to get some people with knowledge of "bidi >> scripts" to help? > > I'm interested in BiDi and RTL issue (in fact I reported most of the > RTL > bugs). I'll soon install a fresh joyride build and see what is still > missing for proper RTL support. FWIW I don't think Etoys can be made to work correctly in RTL any time soon. - Bert - ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] RTL blocker for 8.2.0?
Marco, Thanks for asking for clarification on this issue. At present, Greg and I disagree about whether this cluster of issues should block the 8.2.0 release and are working with Kim and Robert to resolve our disagreement. However, in order to make good decisions, it would be very helpful if the Sugar/X team along with Sayamindu (and any other people interested in the issue) could write up a short essay explaining all of the current bugs in this area, what plans we could pursue in order to close them, and what it might cost to exercise each plan. In the meantime, I will remove the blocks:8.2.0 tag from these tickets until we reach our decision. Sorry for the miscommunication, Michael ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] RTL blocker for 8.2.0?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe these are regression bugs in that RTL works correctly (better?) in > previous releases. This seems very unlikely. We basically never tried to support RTL so far... Thanks for clarifying. Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] RTL blocker for 8.2.0?
Hi Guys, RTL is a blocker and it should be all RTL issues unless we can show that they are cosmetic or there is an acceptable work around. The reason they are show stoppers is that we have major Arabic deployments planned for this fall and winter (northern hemisphere). I believe these are regression bugs in that RTL works correctly (better?) in previous releases. Some of the deployments will start before 8.2.0 is out but we need an upgrade path for them ASAP per NAND Full bug. Some of the ones that are planned for later in the year will go to places where it will be extremely hard to upgrade them. In short I do want these all marked blockers, especially if they are regressions. I'm not sure what milestone you think we will miss, but I'm inclined to hold the release to fix these if its not too long a delay. What do we need to do to get some people with knowledge of "bidi scripts" to help? I have asked all deployments to come up with contacts and I'll keep on them to rally the "bidi" community if I can find it. By all means, send out the call wherever you can find an audience! Thanks, Greg S Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hello Greg, >>> >>> you marked one the RTL tickets as a blocker. Is RTL support in general >>> considered a release blocker? If so, probably most or all of the >>> tickets on the RTL tracker bug should be marked as such (and there >>> might very well be more). >>> >>> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6808 >> Also, I think we should get ASAP some people with knowledge of the >> bidi scripts we care about to revise the whole UI. If we wait more, we >> risk having to do invasive changes too late in the cycle. > > To be honest, it's already pretty late :) > > Marco > ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] RTL blocker for 8.2.0?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello Greg, >> >> you marked one the RTL tickets as a blocker. Is RTL support in general >> considered a release blocker? If so, probably most or all of the >> tickets on the RTL tracker bug should be marked as such (and there >> might very well be more). >> >> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6808 > > Also, I think we should get ASAP some people with knowledge of the > bidi scripts we care about to revise the whole UI. If we wait more, we > risk having to do invasive changes too late in the cycle. To be honest, it's already pretty late :) Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] RTL blocker for 8.2.0?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Greg, > > you marked one the RTL tickets as a blocker. Is RTL support in general > considered a release blocker? If so, probably most or all of the > tickets on the RTL tracker bug should be marked as such (and there > might very well be more). > > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6808 Also, I think we should get ASAP some people with knowledge of the bidi scripts we care about to revise the whole UI. If we wait more, we risk having to do invasive changes too late in the cycle. Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
