Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-31 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 03:05:18PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote:

 On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:

 a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows
 whatever the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode,
 switch to different tabs, etc. However once I press the
 capture-button the whole thing basically freezes, sometimes I was
 still able to move the mouse but clicking wouldn't have any impact, at
 other times Sugar completely froze and I had to do a hard reset of the
 XO.


 Your save-nand image loaded onto my XO just fine, but Record worked
 fine. Must be something hardware related. very odd.


 It could also be hardware independent but non-deterministic. Or
 deterministic but triggered under input that you didn't give.

 Michael


Hey guys,

thanks a lot for all the feedback.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to submit any tickets about the issues I
encountered as I've been busy with getting ready for flying back across the
pond. This has been somewhat painful due to by my flight being canceled
today thanks to strikes at Lufthansa. (Oh the fun of last-minute
re-booking)

Anyway, I hope to be back on speed by Tuesday or something and will submit
the respective tickets then.

Best regards,
Christoph

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Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-30 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
 a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows
 whatever the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode,
 switch to different tabs, etc. However once I press the
 capture-button the whole thing basically freezes, sometimes I was
 still able to move the mouse but clicking wouldn't have any impact, at
 other times Sugar completely froze and I had to do a hard reset of the
 XO. 

Your save-nand image loaded onto my XO just fine, but Record worked
fine. Must be something hardware related. very odd.

Daniel


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Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 03:05:18PM -0400, Daniel Drake wrote:
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
 a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows
 whatever the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode,
 switch to different tabs, etc. However once I press the
 capture-button the whole thing basically freezes, sometimes I was
 still able to move the mouse but clicking wouldn't have any impact, at
 other times Sugar completely froze and I had to do a hard reset of the
 XO. 

Your save-nand image loaded onto my XO just fine, but Record worked
fine. Must be something hardware related. very odd.

It could also be hardware independent but non-deterministic. Or
deterministic but triggered under input that you didn't give.

Michael
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Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-29 Thread Morgan Collett
2008/7/29 Christoph Derndorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,

 I've been running joyride-2225 with what I believe to be the latest versions
 (as per the update software functionality of the sugar-control-panel) of
 some core activities. In the past half hour I have stumbled across some
 issues that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else so I thought I'd share
 them:

 a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows whatever
 the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode, switch to different
 tabs, etc. However once I press the capture-button the whole thing
 basically freezes, sometimes I was still able to move the mouse but clicking
 wouldn't have any impact, at other times Sugar completely froze and I had to
 do a hard reset of the XO.
 b) TurtleArt: v7 is missing an l in the activity title so we're looking at
 TurteArt
 c) Read: This activity is only useful if started by clicking on a file with
 a mime-type that's associated to read. However it still shows up in the list
 view of the home-view even though you actually can't do anything with it
 once you start it. The activity.info file has the show_launcher property
 to define that behavior, not sure whether in this case it's simply set
 wrongly in the read .info or whether the list-view presently ignores this
 attribute.
 Another odd issue is that when you open read from the list / favorites view
 and you then want to close it you're presented with a keep error message
 which seems quite useless considering the fact that no activity / file was
 actually resumed. Again, not sure whether that's an issue with read or the
 underlying Journal structure.
 d) Brightness adjustment: up to 708 and most earlier joyrides that I have
 used in the past weeks allowed you to immediatly turn of the backlight by
 pressing ctrl + reduce brightness button. With joyride-2225 this doesn't
 work anymore.

 Let me know what you think.

I think these are all worthy of a ticket. Some of them may be already
reported, but it's probably worth having duplicates rather than an
issue not reported at all. If you have time for some ticket triage,
then you could check if there are existing tickets. For example, I
know the TurteArt is an old issue.

Raising them on the mailing list is good too, since in some cases the
default Trac assignees for activities aren't responsive.

Regards
Morgan
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Re: [sugar] Random observations with joyride-2225 and latest activities

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 09:32 +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
 a) Record: using v56 the activity starts up fine, the display shows
 whatever the camera is capturing, I can go into fullscreen-mode,
 switch to different tabs, etc. However once I press the
 capture-button the whole thing basically freezes, sometimes I was
 still able to move the mouse but clicking wouldn't have any impact, at
 other times Sugar completely froze and I had to do a hard reset of the
 XO. 

Capture in which mode? Please file a ticket, also I'd be interested to
see this in person if you're coming back to 1cc this week. I've seen
Record running on a number of laptops and haven't heard of this.

 c) Read: This activity is only useful if started by clicking on a file
 with a mime-type that's associated to read. However it still shows up
 in the list view of the home-view even though you actually can't do
 anything with it once you start it. The activity.info file has the
 show_launcher property to define that behavior, not sure whether in
 this case it's simply set wrongly in the read .info or whether the
 list-view presently ignores this attribute. 
 Another odd issue is that when you open read from the list / favorites
 view and you then want to close it you're presented with a keep
 error message which seems quite useless considering the fact that no
 activity / file was actually resumed. Again, not sure whether that's
 an issue with read or the underlying Journal structure. 

Sounds worthy of a ticket if there isn't one already.

 d) Brightness adjustment: up to 708 and most earlier joyrides that I
 have used in the past weeks allowed you to immediatly turn of the
 backlight by pressing ctrl + reduce brightness button. With
 joyride-2225 this doesn't work anymore. 

Sounds worthy of a ticket if there isn't one already.

You should keyword them all 8.2.0:?

Daniel


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