Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 09:11, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Ton van Overbeek wrote: When trying out Soas-200902231225 the journal stays empty. Anybody else seen this ? Also in http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/ there is now a Soas-200902241809.iso. What is this ? Is there a changelog or buildlog somewhere for the various Soas versions? Ton van Overbeek Maybe you see http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/72 which was kindly fixed by Tomeu yesterday. Could also be that your live usb stick has no room for the home directory? Regards, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] SugarLabs BugSquad Triage meeting REMINDER (19 February, 2009 - 16.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting
Hi, The Sugar Labs BugSquad [2] meets this week for another Triage session. When: Thursday 26 February, 2009 - 16.00 (UTC) Where: irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting Who: You do not need any programming knowledge to be in the BugSquad; in fact it is a great way to return something to the Sugar community if you cannot program. What: Read at [3] about the work a triager is doing. Looking forward to see you on Thursday (aehm today :), Simon [1] http://dev.sugarlabs.org [2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad [3] http://sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad/TriageGuide ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] SugarLabs BugSquad Triage meeting REMINDER (26 February, 2009 - 16.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting [was (Re: [IAEP] SugarLabs BugSquad Triage meeting REMINDER (19 February
Sorry the header was wrong. Simon Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, The Sugar Labs BugSquad [2] meets this week for another Triage session. When: Thursday 26 February, 2009 - 16.00 (UTC) Where: irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting Who: You do not need any programming knowledge to be in the BugSquad; in fact it is a great way to return something to the Sugar community if you cannot program. What: Read at [3] about the work a triager is doing. Looking forward to see you on Thursday (aehm today :), Simon [1] http://dev.sugarlabs.org [2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad [3] http://sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad/TriageGuide ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?
Ton van Overbeek wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Ton van Overbeek wrote: When trying out Soas-200902231225 the journal stays empty. Anybody else seen this ? Also in http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/ there is now a Soas-200902241809.iso. What is this ? Is there a changelog or buildlog somewhere for the various Soas versions? Ton van Overbeek Maybe you see http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/72 which was kindly fixed by Tomeu yesterday. Cheers, Simon Yes, it is the same bug. I see the same error message in the logs (shell.log) as in the ticket. I also have a large screen (1920x1200), so this is most certainly the same bug. Is there alreadys a SoaS snapshot with this fix included ? Ton Is on its way - I will announce later today on this list. Thanks, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] How to authenticate with the Schoolserver on non XO hardware was: (Re: Auto-authentication for Browse)
Hi Hamilton, Chua wrote: Hello Everyone, My name is Hamilton Chua and I am new to these lists and even newer to sugar development and the olpc in general so please do forgive me if the questions I am about to ask have been asked and answered before. I am using a development snapshot of Sugar on a Stick (SoaS) and XS (0.5.1) on Virtualbox 2.1.4. So here are my questions : 1) It seems registration does not work on SoaS because it lacks the info that you normally have on an OLPC laptop in order to successfully register with an XS server. I would like to ask what the significance, if any, of registration. In the snapshot I have, it seems that I can set the jabber server on the control panel and it seemed that I was all set. Yes, the registration is currently dependent on the SN and the uuid of the XO. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar/repos/mainline/blobs/master/src/jarabe/desktop/schoolserver.py 2) For the XS Cookie (Plan C here) to work, do I need to register sugar with an XS server ? Yes, that is how it is currently implemented. 3) Are there plans to make registration work for Sugar installed on hardware other than an OLPC ? Martin, are there any plans yet on how to make the services of a school server available to non XO hardware? Thanks, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] design team meeting (And finding a new regular time)
Done! Christian On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 1:17 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: Christian, Will you post the new meeting information on http://sugarlabs.org/go/DesignTeam/Meetings ? On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt christianm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there Why don't we start by getting a day on the calendar for a regular design meeting. How is Saturday at 11am? Does that work for everyone? We may need to start next week, on the 27th, since Eben is traveling... Christian On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 22:18, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: I wasn't available for a meeting today, so that's partially my fault. I'm trying to get back into the swing of things, though, and actually had the chance to meet with Christian today regarding starting up regular design meetings again. As our work on Sugar will be voluntary, we both feel that selecting a time on the weekends (or perhaps late evening, though naturally timezone complicates this) may allow us to attend regularly as we'd like to. Would this work for others with interest? What days/times would be most suitable for everyone? Weekends are not as good for me, but I definitely will be able to attend some. Apart from Josh, Eduardo (HoboPrimate) is back giving us awesome usability feedback and Gary is stepping up his contributions even more by doing icons for Sugar. So we need to organize a bit all this new energy that is coming into the design area ;) See you soon, Tomeu +1, there is definitely a lot of energy. Weekend is currently not as optimal for me neither, but I am sure we can find ways to communicate the outcome from those meetings tomeu or I can not attend. Might be worth anyhow - since we are an in time and space distributed crowd. /me is so happy to see Sugar Labs progress on all fronts each day. Thanks! Simon -- anyth...@christianmarcschmidt.com http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com 917/ 575 0013 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- anyth...@christianmarcschmidt.com http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com 917/ 575 0013 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84 Release Candidate 2 (0.83.6)
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Simon Schampijer wrote:
Dear Sugar Community,
this is Release Candidate 2 for the upcoming 0.84 Release - see the [1]
for more details. Only one more week to go in this release cycle. Please
test this release and report all the bugs you find that we are able to
fix them in time. A friendly BugSquad [2] will be available to triage
those bugs accordingly and the developers can never have enough bug
food. If you have non-bug feedback about features you can use the
sugar-devel mailing list to share it with us.
From a user point of view we want to highlight the following changes
that have been made:
=== Resume by Default ===
Resume by default is now the way we handle activity startup. The option
in the Favourites View palette has been removed completely. You can
still start a new instance using the 'Start' option in the Activity palette.
=== View Source ===
There has been some refinements to the View Source dialog. You can
access it from the Activity palette in the Frame or by using
'Shift+Alt+V' directly.
not by Fn+space? (as marked on the keyboard)
David Lang
The coloured activity icon represents the source of the activity
instance. The outlined activity icon represent the bundle source for the
activity itself, the template. We use this to help draw a distinction
between the activity instance and the activity bundle
Using the uncoloured outline to represent the bundle vs the coloured
icon to represent an instance has been the design cue all along.
=== File transfer ===
We make use of the files new file transfer files now.
=== Read ===
Morgan fixed an error that was introduced due to changes in Evince.
=== Browse ===
Martin Langhoff has been adding functionality to authenticate with the
Schoolserver. When registered with the server an HTTP Cookie is created
to ease the use of services on the Schoolserver in future sessions.
Thanks to Daniel Drake Browse propagates the current locale now. This
helps to use web services and pages in your mother language. Try it out
with the [http://addons.sugarlabs.org/ addons] page for example.
Thanks everyone for your great contributions!
In behalf of the sugar community,
Your Release Team
[1] The Sucrose Release Schedule can be found here
http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Roadmap#Schedule
[2] More Info about the BugSquad at
http://sugarlabs.org/go/BugSquad
[3] You can find more details and screenshots at
http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.83.6
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Modules that changed:
== Glucose news ==
=== sugar-toolkit ===
* Don't try to hide the tray if the activity has none (alsroot) {{Bug|395}}
* NamingAlert: Icon dependent on the entry type {{Bug|353}}
* Updated Languages
=== sugar ===
* Revert Add a favorites mode setting for deciding if the favorites
view resumes by default or not
* Listen for changes in the Activities dir and install/uninstall
activities accordingly {{Bug|235}}
* Fix sorting of favorite icons by installation_time {{Bug|387}}
* View Source: Option and accelerator in activity frame palette
* View Source: Use activity icon outline for Bundle Source, part of
{{Bug|360}}
* View Source: Hide Python Bytecode files {{Bug|361}}
* Use the file transfer icons
* Many new translations!
=== sugar-base ===
* Many new translations!
=== sugar-artwork ===
* Icon for a generic document, part of {{Bug|360}}
* Add view source icon
== Fructose news ==
=== Chat ===
* Translation update
=== Read ===
* AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'evince_embed_init'
{{Bug|351}}
* Translation updates.
=== Browse ===
* Create a HTTP Cookie to authenticate with the Schoolserver (Martin
Langhoff)
* Deprecation fix: Use bundle_id instead od service_name
* Set intl.accept_languages based on the locale (Daniel Drake)
* New Translations
== Fructose dependencies news==
=== Hulahop ===
* hulahop_get_view_for_window implicitly converted to pointer (Dann
Frazier) #20
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84 Release Candidate 2 (0.83.6)
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Simon Schampijer wrote: da...@lang.hm wrote: On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Simon Schampijer wrote: Dear Sugar Community, this is Release Candidate 2 for the upcoming 0.84 Release - see the [1] for more details. Only one more week to go in this release cycle. Please test this release and report all the bugs you find that we are able to fix them in time. A friendly BugSquad [2] will be available to triage those bugs accordingly and the developers can never have enough bug food. If you have non-bug feedback about features you can use the sugar-devel mailing list to share it with us. From a user point of view we want to highlight the following changes that have been made: === Resume by Default === Resume by default is now the way we handle activity startup. The option in the Favourites View palette has been removed completely. You can still start a new instance using the 'Start' option in the Activity palette. === View Source === There has been some refinements to the View Source dialog. You can access it from the Activity palette in the Frame or by using 'Shift+Alt+V' directly. not by Fn+space? (as marked on the keyboard) Which keyboard? Sugar does not only run on XO hardware. ok, but on the XO hardware is should use the key combination that's marked for it. is that the same as shift+alt+V? David Lang ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: . the purpose (not in security speak but in terms of the benefits it brings to end users), also why should rainbow be used instead of one of the many other sets of tools available to distros for locking down a desktop (SELinux, or other LSMs)? can/should rainbow be modified to use the LSM hooks so that it can be used with standard systems? or is it really doing something that is Sugar specific? how should/could rainbow work with non-sugar apps? (normal X learning apps running on an XO to use an example raised in another post in this thread) how should/could apps work around what seems like a rainbow limitation to let one binary be used for multiple 'apps' (for example gmail + browse or the X desktop wrapper) I apologize if you already answered this in your documentation, but these sorts of concepts were not even being discussed a year or so ago, and the answers are not generally known. David Lang ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Auto-authentication for Browse -
Hello Everyone, My name is Hamilton Chua and I am new to these lists and even newer to sugar development and the olpc in general so please do forgive me if the questions I am about to ask have been asked and answered before. I am using a development snapshot of Sugar on a Stick (SoaS) and XS (0.5.1) on Virtualbox 2.1.4. So here are my questions : 1) It seems registration does not work on SoaS because it lacks the info that you normally have on an OLPC laptop in order to successfully register with an XS server. I would like to ask what the significance, if any, of registration. In the snapshot I have, it seems that I can set the jabber server on the control panel and it seemed that I was all set. 2) For the XS Cookie (Plan C here) to work, do I need to register sugar with an XS server ? 3) Are there plans to make registration work for Sugar installed on hardware other than an OLPC ? Thanks for much in advance. Best, Hamilton -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Auto-authentication-for-Browse---tp2204988p2383223.html Sent from the Sugar Development mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-104
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: I would however want to do so for Debian. I'll test myself that bundle_id works with 0.82, That does not break anything. The underlying hulahop has changed and Browse reacted to that - that is why we can not provide the backward compability. Simon, I also posted the patch for the 0.82 (stable) branch , will you issue a separate release for that branch too? (the sugar versioning scheme doesn't help i suspect...) If not, Jonas can definitely grab my version of the patch and apply it on top of the latest Browse he has. m -- mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Ton van Overbeek wrote: When trying out Soas-200902231225 the journal stays empty. Anybody else seen this ? Also in http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/ there is now a Soas-200902241809.iso. What is this ? Is there a changelog or buildlog somewhere for the various Soas versions? Ton van Overbeek Maybe you see http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/72 which was kindly fixed by Tomeu yesterday. Cheers, Simon Yes, it is the same bug. I see the same error message in the logs (shell.log) as in the ticket. I also have a large screen (1920x1200), so this is most certainly the same bug. Is there alreadys a SoaS snapshot with this fix included ? Ton ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Mailing list moderators needed
Every day, around a dozen emails get held by mailman for inspection by a human being because they were posted by non-member addresses or because there are other reasons for considering them suspicious. Most of these are of course spam, but a few are valid posts. Today I ran through a long backlog of held posts on iaep@ and sugar-develer@, and cleared them. It's a boring job, but it only took me 10 minutes. We'd need someone with some free time to volunteer for this job. For the time being, I've configured the list to automatically reject anything that would have been held instead. This way, at least, we don't set the expectations of those few human posters too high. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs
Hey Josh, thanks for the offer of help! I definitely like your simple and kid-friendly theme for addons. I wonder off the top of my head though, if it makes sense to make addons.sl.o look *more* like the other sl.o sites?Things are kind of confusing right now with the different styles of wiki, trac, addons, schools, gitorious, api, buildbot, etc. planet is the lone exception, it seems to follow wiki.sugarlabs.org nicely :) It would be great if the Design Team could comment on this decision. Here are a couple other web infrastructure ideas: + Improve theming consistency among various SL.o sites. + Single sign on cookie among all SL.o sites - perhaps OpenID based. + Standard nav header atop all SL.o sites rather than the various nav headers in different places, with different links. + Better splash page for Gitorious, looking more like GitWeb - a page with a small search box at the top and the rest being a list of projects, sorted by recent activity, showing owner and last commit details Best regards, Wade On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ,Josh williams joshcwilli...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I'm working on the design of sugar labs add-ons with Mick Weiss. I've created a mock up at http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design but I've haven't been able to contact anyone on the design team as of yet. I would also like to volunteer some of my time for other projects. I'm primarily a front-end designer with XHTML/CSS JavaScript skills, but I also know some PHP/MySQL and have a background in Linux. I also enjoy creating icons, so if there are any activities developers that need icons please contact me. My portfolio is over at http://tucsonlabs.com . If you're a member of the design team or have some use for my skills, please let me know. Thanks Josh ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Mailing list moderators needed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 04:20:00PM +0100, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Every day, around a dozen emails get held by mailman for inspection by a human being because they were posted by non-member addresses or because there are other reasons for considering them suspicious. Most of these are of course spam, but a few are valid posts. Today I ran through a long backlog of held posts on iaep@ and sugar-develer@, and cleared them. It's a boring job, but it only took me 10 minutes. Ahh, that explains the small chunk of 4-5 days old emails showing up today :-) We'd need someone with some free time to volunteer for this job. For the time being, I've configured the list to automatically reject anything that would have been held instead. This way, at least, we don't set the expectations of those few human posters too high. We use Mailman, right? The I can volunteer for that. I already do same task for 10-15 other lists that I am admin for. If anyone cares, I use the commandline tool listadmin, which makes the task much faster. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmmuW8ACgkQn7DbMsAkQLilhwCdEFOtJfM3KLv1C1mHxOFvN4tr Il4An3R17y3ap4QnsbyEnBNSciEYJGq2 =8/om -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Propuesta Merani
Hola, Nos acercamos al final de la propuesta para Merani, por favor revísenla y corrijanla. Lean la sección de notas para nosotros ;). Rafael Ortiz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Propuesta Merani
Ignore this Sorry.. Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Hola, Nos acercamos al final de la propuesta para Merani, por favor revísenla y corrijanla. Lean la sección de notas para nosotros ;). Rafael Ortiz ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] How to authenticate with the Schoolserver on non XO hardware was: (Re: Auto-authentication for Browse)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Martin, are there any plans yet on how to make the services of a school server available to non XO hardware? I'm certainly keen on supporting it. We'd need a uid scheme - what would be the best approach for this? First, my thoughts went to hw UIDs, like a MAC address or a hash of the UIDs reported by lspci. But if the SoaS is indeed on a USB stick to be used on any hw but retaining my identity, then we want to make a purely random uid, created at first boot or with the Sugar give me your name screen.. If the uid we use matches the format of the XO uids, then the XS will just take it. Maybe put a prefix to it so if we need to special-case it on the XS then we can... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Mailing list moderators needed
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: The I can volunteer for that. I already do same task for 10-15 other lists that I am admin for. Thank you very much, Jonas. I'm sending you the moderator password by private email. Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to change in the configuration of the lists. I'd also like to install SpamAssassin on solarsail so we can use the X-Spam* headers to automatically discard obvious spam before it bothers you. If anyone cares, I use the commandline tool listadmin, which makes the task much faster. Wonderful, I've always wanted something like that! -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
