Re: [Sugar-devel] Print support, a few issues

2009-04-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Look, I'm running lpr and feeding it Postscript. I'm not
in a position to use some Python XML RPC nonsense.
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[Sugar-devel] processing.js - tool to replace flash in websites [KARMA]

2009-04-26 Thread Bryan Berry
Hey Subzero,

I just came across this blog post from John Resig, the creator of
jQuery. He kicked off a processing.js to replace flash for animations. I
am not really sure how it relates to jQuery

http://processingjs.org/

he also has a new project sizzle that is a CSS3 selector engine
http://sizzlejs.com/

frankly, I don't actually know what a CSS3 selector engine is or what
CSS3 selectors are but looks interesting

http://processingjs.org/exhibition

here are some demos. Interesting thing is that these demos really rev my
CPU. I have a centrino dual-core 2 GHz. Firefox chews up 70% of my
processor. However, when I stream Youtube Firefox also often chews up
50% of my processor so not sure if firefox is at fault or processing.js


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[Sugar-devel] Gnumeric for sugar

2009-04-26 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello everyone,
It looks like the latest development version of Gnumeric has a
libspreadsheet library, which may make it possible to make an Activity
out of it. It exposes a structure[1] which lets you access many of the
widgets inside the gnumeric application window, and yesterday, I
utilized that to make a hack proof of concept spreadsheet activity:
screenshots at http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/spreadsheet/Screenshot.png
and http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/spreadsheet/Screenshot_1.png

Of course, for a proper activity, we would probably need to wrap
WorkBookView[2] and the associated gobjects.

Cheers,
Sayamindu


[1] http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/wbc-gtk.h and
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/wbc-gtk-impl.h
[2] http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/workbook-view.h
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gnumeric for sugar

2009-04-26 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:21, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 It looks like the latest development version of Gnumeric has a
 libspreadsheet library, which may make it possible to make an Activity
 out of it. It exposes a structure[1] which lets you access many of the
 widgets inside the gnumeric application window, and yesterday, I
 utilized that to make a hack proof of concept spreadsheet activity:
 screenshots at http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/spreadsheet/Screenshot.png
 and http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/spreadsheet/Screenshot_1.png

Yay! Awesome news!

What would take to make the smallest shippable activity with it? This
could be a major feature in 0.86.

Congratulations,

Tomeu

 Of course, for a proper activity, we would probably need to wrap
 WorkBookView[2] and the associated gobjects.

 Cheers,
 Sayamindu


 [1] http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/wbc-gtk.h and
 http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/wbc-gtk-impl.h
 [2] http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/workbook-view.h
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on LTSP

2009-04-26 Thread David Van Assche
Due to the sad state of ubuntu sugar, I decided, along with cyberorg
to package sugar and quite big set of honey sugar activities (about 50
of them) on openSUSE. The main goal here was to make it work nicely
with LTSP. So far that is working quite well, and there is no reason
ejabberd won't work with that. It worked just fine with ubuntu
intrepid +ejabberd. There are still a couple of hurdles to overcome,
such as some activities now working, but we should have a fully
functional environment within the coming weeks. I'll keep the list
informed.

kind Regards,
David

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sugar is compatible with LTSP systems. The folks at Resera have done
 good work in this space. However, the Ubuntu packaging of Sugar 0.84
 is a bit behind the great work being done by the Debian community.

 -walter

 On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote:
 Hello,

 I had a conversation with our tech folks on campus yesterday, and
 Sugar via LTSP (http://www.ltsp.org/) came up. The original discussion
 was about LTSP and thin and fat clients, but this group is in the
 College of Education, so the conversation drifted towards Sugar. We've
  talked about this before, but I'll poke the embers again. Is Sugar
 usable via LTSP? Espcially the collaborative part via ejabberd?

 We plan on having a Jaunty-based showcase running in three weeks or
 so. If Sugar is usable in that environment, we'll definitely push for
 it in this lab. The lab is used by faculty and students from early
 childhood ed. and other departments inb CoE. They'd love to bring in
 teachers and children from local schools to showcase it.

 I'm cc'ing David Van Assche in case he's not on this list (highly
 doubtful, though). I am currently using his fatclient script
 (http://www.nubae.com/ltsp-linux-terminal-server-project-netbooted-fat-client-for-ubuntu-hardy-and-intrepid)
 on Intrepid+GNOME.

 cheers,
 Sameer
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gnumeric for sugar

2009-04-26 Thread Gary C Martin
On 26 Apr 2009, at 09:21, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 It looks like the latest development version of Gnumeric has a
 libspreadsheet library, which may make it possible to make an Activity
 out of it. It exposes a structure[1] which lets you access many of the
 widgets inside the gnumeric application window, and yesterday, I
 utilized that to make a hack proof of concept spreadsheet activity:
 screenshots at http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/spreadsheet/Screenshot.png
 and http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/spreadsheet/Screenshot_1.png

Hey wow, that great! Shout if you need help with the svgs.

--Gary

 Of course, for a proper activity, we would probably need to wrap
 WorkBookView[2] and the associated gobjects.

 Cheers,
 Sayamindu


 [1] http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/wbc-gtk.h and
 http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/wbc-gtk-impl.h
 [2] http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnumeric/tree/src/workbook-view.h
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Gnumeric for sugar

2009-04-26 Thread Kushal Das
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 It looks like the latest development version of Gnumeric has a
 libspreadsheet library, which may make it possible to make an Activity
 out of it. It exposes a structure[1] which lets you access many of the
 widgets inside the gnumeric application window, and yesterday, I
 utilized that to make a hack proof of concept spreadsheet activity:
 screenshots at http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/spreadsheet/Screenshot.png
 and http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/spreadsheet/Screenshot_1.png

Looks great :)

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[Sugar-devel] Print support blog

2009-04-26 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
aa, here's the blog, suggestions?
And I will add you as one of the authors, if you can give me your account.

http://materializingsweetness.wordpress.com/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Kartik - internship outside GSoC

2009-04-26 Thread Jameson Quinn


 Regarding my interests, it has always been towards networking and as much
 away from UI as I can :).  The areas I am interested in working includes
 communication or any other background improvements sugar requires. I was
 particularly impressed by Groupthink because it solves a core problem for
 sugar and I will definitely like to do some thing of this sort
 (research+implementation). I guess a lot of work will be done on Groupthink
 as a part of this year's Gsoc. Another research oriented project I found
 here http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas is the 
 Toolkit
 for dissimilar activity collaboration idea. Can someone please update me on
 this and whether this will be an appropriate project to start for me and if
 I will have a mentor to assist me on this (high priority).


My own, completely personal opinion on dissimilar activity collaboration is
that it is a solution searching for a problem. I understand that there are
real use cases, but I haven't seen one that's nearly as compelling as the
viral-activity idea (idea 2 of the ones I sent). This is just me commenting,
I hope that others with opposing viewpoints will also comment.

As to Groupthink, I think that it would be ill-advised to try to force you
and Bemasc to work together without a very clear delineation of
responsibility which minimizes dependencies. I also think it would be very
hard to draw such a line, though you're welcome to prove me wrong on this
latter point.



 Regarding the two ideas listed in the earlier mail I will be more inclined
 towards the second one, but my priority will go towards the one I mentioned
 above. One thing which I will prefer to be their in my project is that it
 should fall completely within Sugar and will require less dependence on any
 other organization. Please take this factor in consideration too when you
 comment on any project idea.


I think that the viral activity idea could be a good fit for you. It
certainly looks as if it falls entirely inside Sugar, relying on only
existing functionality from Telepathy.



 Thanks for this gesture, I seriously appreciate this.


The least we could do, in the circumstances.

Jameson





 On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I hope we can do this for you, and would be really happy if it comes
  through. However, as much as it pains me, I think you will have to go
  through some of the application process over again. We don't need to
  interview you again, once is plenty and you did well. But we do need a
  specific proposal, with clear deliverables - which could easily take a
 week
  or more for you to create - and then at least a few days for us to
 evaluate
  the merits of such a proposal and our ability to support it. Otherwise,
 how
  can we meaningfully evaluate whether you've completed your internship?
 
  I suspect that we'd be ready to accommodate whatever reasonable calendar
 you
  set up for those steps.
 
  Jameson
 
  2009/4/26 kartik rustagi kashes...@gmail.com
 
  Hi David,
  I talked to few of my seniors and the Training and Placement Cell at
  my school and they told me that the only official letter I will be
  needing are:
  1) 'Joining Letter' which will state the date I will be starting my
  internship and my supervisor (mentor) at the organization. This letter
  should preferably on the letter head of the organization or should
  have some other kind of authentication.
  2)  And at the end of training I will need a completion certificate.
 
  I will scan and mail you the format of these documents, that will be
  more convenient. The official period of the internship will start from
  the last week of May after the university exams (going on right now).
 
  Delhi College of Engineering : www.dce.ac.in, www.dce.edu
 
  Regards
  Kartik Rustagi
 
  On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org
  wrote:
   On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jameson Quinn 
 jameson.qu...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   Kartik,
  
   I think we can definitely find a useful way for you to contribute and
   fulfill your internship requirements. You should write more about
 what
   kind
   of project would interest you; the suggestions below focus more on
   communications, because that's what I know as your expertise, but if
   you are
   interested in UI, security, graphics, or something else, there are
   probably
   other ideas for you.
  
   I'm not really the person to talk to about communications. I was
   talking
   with bemasc (benjamin schwartz, copied on this email) and we had two
   ideas:
  
   Some way of completing your original project idea without involving
   Collabora/Telepathy too much. For instance, Bemasc mentioned Webdav,
   but
   said The problem is that it has no (standardized or otherwise)
   connection
   to XMPP, so Collabora isn't much interested in shoving it into Salut
 in
   some
   ad-hoc way So it would have to live outside of Salut, but still
 ask
   

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-26 Thread Sascha Silbe

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 02:34:21PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote:


o The cyrillic font and hal error messages appear to be irrelevant, as
they are in sugar-jhbuild. I wouldn't mind seeing them fixed, though.
Those are in Xephyr, there's nothing we can do about them, 
unfortunately. You might want to report them to Ubuntu if they haven't 
been already.



o The culprit appears to be a security setting in config/dbus that
prevents Xephyr from accessing the display. Does anybody know where
this setting is, and what it should say instead?
You're probably hitting bug #310 [1]. Ubuntu has marked it as fix 
committed a month ago, but they don't ship a fixed package yet (that 
would be status fix released).


You could try running Sugar natively (i.e. as a session) instead of 
using sugar-emulator (as we're now at a point where we now that 
sugar-emulator won't work for you, at least until Ubuntu fixes some 
bugs).



[1] http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/310

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Re: [Sugar-devel] processing.js - tool to replace flash in websites [KARMA]

2009-04-26 Thread Bryan Berry
thanks for the reality check ;). Processing.js is probably overkill for
the simple stuff we need to do. It is easy to get distracted w/
high-quality animations when what we need are simple animations that are
very responsive to the user.

I have fallen in love w/ the default jQuery selector engine. It is
pretty darn fantastic.
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 12:41 +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote:
 Processing.js is a port of Processing (JVM) and it doesn't really have
 anything to do with jQuery. It uses canvas as a backend for drawing
 things, so it needs recent enough browsers.Try it in a webkit browser
 or Chrome. They're much faster for most things than Firefox.
 
 I don't know if the abstraction Processing.js offers over plain
 canvas is useful for Karma or it's just overhead.
 
 jQuery already has a selector engine ( called by $('bla') ), afaik
 Sizzle is supposed to be a jQuery-independent selector engine. I don't
 think it has much use outside of creating js libraries.
 
 
 2009/4/26 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org:
  Hey Subzero,
 
  I just came across this blog post from John Resig, the creator of
  jQuery. He kicked off a processing.js to replace flash for animations. I
  am not really sure how it relates to jQuery
 
  http://processingjs.org/
 
  he also has a new project sizzle that is a CSS3 selector engine
  http://sizzlejs.com/
 
  frankly, I don't actually know what a CSS3 selector engine is or what
  CSS3 selectors are but looks interesting
 
  http://processingjs.org/exhibition
 
  here are some demos. Interesting thing is that these demos really rev my
  CPU. I have a centrino dual-core 2 GHz. Firefox chews up 70% of my
  processor. However, when I stream Youtube Firefox also often chews up
  50% of my processor so not sure if firefox is at fault or processing.js
 
 
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