Re: [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art-70 on SoaS3-200909271154.iso

2009-09-27 Thread s . boutayeb
Hola Raul,

Selon Raul Gutierrez Segales :

> On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 18:50 +0200, s.bouta...@free.fr wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In Turtle Art-70 running on the SoaS3-200909271154.iso, the help messages
> don't
> > display well when there is a 2nd line for longer strings.
>
> You mean the line wrapping only works to a certain extend? Could you
> send me a screenshot of this off-list?

Here a link with 2 screenshots:

http://olpc-france.org/wiki/index.php?title=TurtleArt

Regards,

Samy
>

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] more mirrors

2009-09-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sun, 27-09-2009 a las 13:45 -0500, David Farning escribió:
> If you could set up a vm running ubuntu 9.04 (or what ever sunjammer
> is  running ) I belive that we can have download.testing.sugarlabs.org
> running by tomorrow evening.

I've set up a small Ubuntu 9.04 VM for you to start testing.  You should
be able to log in as dfarn...@mirrorbrain.sugarlabs.org .  You have sudo
with no password.


> Mirrorbrain might not be the correct answer for sugarlabs.  But at it
> would give us a starting point.

Indeed.  Please keep me updated.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art-70 on SoaS3-200909271154.iso

2009-09-27 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 18:50 +0200, s.bouta...@free.fr wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> In Turtle Art-70 running on the SoaS3-200909271154.iso, the help messages 
> don't
> display well when there is a 2nd line for longer strings.

You mean the line wrapping only works to a certain extend? Could you
send me a screenshot of this off-list?

> 
> Another issue is the incomplete localization in this configuration: some 
> strings
> (especially in the left panel in TA) remain in EN, even after selecting 
> another
> locale (e.g. FR) from the configuration panel. I didn't notice this issue with
> sugar-jhbuild (0.84.7).

I wonder if it's missing translations or missing mappings in our dict.
I'll try to to find out once I finish downloading SoAS. 

Raúl 


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Test Sugar Labs election] Election Begun!

2009-09-27 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 09:30:12PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 06:56:39AM -0400, Selectricity wrote:
>
>> The election title: Test Sugar Labs election
> [...]
>
>From the website:
>> Please vote by dragging items in the list below into your preferred  
>> order.

As far as I know, I did not receive the email invitation. Can somebody 
resend?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Yes, a PackageKit backend that handles .xo files could be written.  I
believe I've suggested this before.
  --Scott

On Tuesday, September 22, 2009, Peter Robinson  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 00:54, Peter Robinson  wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Martin Dengler
>>>  wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote:
> Chris Ball wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >    > TBH I'm not 100% sure on that as I'm not a PackageKit developer
> >    > but I believe that is addressed by ConsoleKit and as its in use
> >    > on Fedora and I'm pretty sure Ubuntu and others (and I'm pretty
> >    > sure its an external dependency of gnome too) I'm sure that issue
> >    > has been addressed.
> >
> > My understanding is that the developers consider it addressed by
> > "%post runs as root, and if you don't like it then don't install RPMs
> > [from untrusted sources]".  So, we need to find out what's up there.
> >
> > - Chris.
>
> Very good point you make.  It gets complicated as the users - kids -
> have not been shown they get it regarding giving their full name, age
> and address and some even phone number, so it is unlikely they will deal
> safely with the nuances of "untrusted sources".
> It would be sort of a shame that the first massive attack of malware on
> Linux platforms happened under our watch...

 The whole point of Rainbow is that what I think you're talking about
 isn't an issue, and it's encouraged that kids share Activities.
 Eliminating this sharing ability is one of the problems with the
 current rpm / PackageKit proposals AIUI.
>>>
>>> How is the sharing implemented currently? I don't see how its
>>> different to say installing an activity via the control panel as I
>>> don't believe it leaves the .xo lying about for easy sharing.
>>
>> Yes, the control panel puts the .xo in the journal, from where it gets
>> installed.
>
> Excellent so exactly the same could be done if package kit was used.
>
> Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Error running socialcalc on sugar live cd

2009-09-27 Thread vijit singh
Kindly ignore this mail if you have already received a similar one. There
seems to be some problem  posting on the sugar mailing list due to the
attached image. So, here is the link to the image--
http://rapidshare.com/files/285823877/error-log3.jpg.html .  *
*
*Kindly give your suggestions.*

*Regards,*
*VIJIT
*
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:17 AM, vijit singh wrote:

> Hello all,
> Some of my co-developers are facing some issues running socialcalc on sugar
> live cd. A ZipExtractException is being reported in the log. I am attaching
> a photo log with this mail. Kindly give your suggestions about what could be
> the possible reasons. Also, has anybody faced any such problem while running
> any activity on the sugar live cd.
>
> I would also be checking it myself on the sugar live cd today, am
> downloading the live cd iso file with my poor net connection currently.
>
> Regards,
> VIJIT aka sumit
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] more mirrors

2009-09-27 Thread Marten Vijn
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 13:53 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 09:16 +0200, Marten Vijn escribió:

> 
> Increasing the number of mirrors would certainly not hurt us, but I'm
> not sure how beneficial it is unless we start pointing users at these
> mirrors.
> 
> The most rudimentary way would be doing round-robin DNS on
> download.sugarlabs.org.  The next step would be delegating
> download.sugarlabs.org to smart nameservers with GeoIP and dynamic
> mirror add/removal based on monitoring.  But wouldn't this be a
> duplication of what services like Cacheboy and Mirrorbrain already do?
> 

I don't  see roundrobin as a solution. (details below)

CacheBoy would be the solution if:
- one or more for could join cacheboy
- if/when cacheboy is open source

Since the mirror do have delta's in the path Mirrorbrain would the
current solution.


> We also have a namespace problem to address: last year, Marco convinced
> me to shorten the URL by scrapping the "/sugar" prefix.  This means that
> mirrors would now have to configure a virtual host for
> download.sugarlabs.org.  We could fix this by re-introducing /sugar and
> adding temporary compatibility aliases to the main server, but it
> wouldn't work for the mirrors.  What do you think?

It would not solve it.

http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

http://download2.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/sugarlabs/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Sugar/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

http://sugarlabs.cdn.cacheboy.net/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200908182110.iso

so 3 out of 5 match, it does not look very promising when grow to more
mirrors. Thats why I like the CacheBoy solution.

cheers,
Marten



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Test Sugar Labs election] Election Begun!

2009-09-27 Thread Sascha Silbe

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 06:56:39AM -0400, Selectricity wrote:


The election title: Test Sugar Labs election

[...]

   From the website:
Please vote by dragging items in the list below into your preferred 
order.


Is there a way to vote without using a Javascript-enabled browser and 
(more importantly) a pointing device?

Just inconvenient for me, but maybe a blocker for someone else?

CU Sascha

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] more mirrors

2009-09-27 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Bernie Innocenti  wrote:
> El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 09:16 +0200, Marten Vijn escribió:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Last saturday I (on EuroBSDcon) was talking with
>> folks for ISC.
>>
>> They be willing to mirror sugar as well.
>>
>> Shall I start working on this?
>
> Increasing the number of mirrors would certainly not hurt us, but I'm
> not sure how beneficial it is unless we start pointing users at these
> mirrors.
>
> The most rudimentary way would be doing round-robin DNS on
> download.sugarlabs.org.  The next step would be delegating
> download.sugarlabs.org to smart nameservers with GeoIP and dynamic
> mirror add/removal based on monitoring.  But wouldn't this be a
> duplication of what services like Cacheboy and Mirrorbrain already do?

I have set up a local instance of mirrorbrain on my development
machine which is running as download.localvm.sugarlabs.org .  Peter
Pöml the lead developer from mirrorbrain has offer to review my
installation notes on Monday

Bernie,

If you could set up a vm running ubuntu 9.04 (or what ever sunjammer
is  running ) I belive that we can have download.testing.sugarlabs.org
running by tomorrow evening.

Mirrorbrain might not be the correct answer for sugarlabs.  But at it
would give us a starting point.

david

> We also have a namespace problem to address: last year, Marco convinced
> me to shorten the URL by scrapping the "/sugar" prefix.  This means that
> mirrors would now have to configure a virtual host for
> download.sugarlabs.org.  We could fix this by re-introducing /sugar and
> adding temporary compatibility aliases to the main server, but it
> wouldn't work for the mirrors.  What do you think?
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] more mirrors

2009-09-27 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 09:16 +0200, Marten Vijn escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> Last saturday I (on EuroBSDcon) was talking with
> folks for ISC. 
> 
> They be willing to mirror sugar as well.
> 
> Shall I start working on this?

Increasing the number of mirrors would certainly not hurt us, but I'm
not sure how beneficial it is unless we start pointing users at these
mirrors.

The most rudimentary way would be doing round-robin DNS on
download.sugarlabs.org.  The next step would be delegating
download.sugarlabs.org to smart nameservers with GeoIP and dynamic
mirror add/removal based on monitoring.  But wouldn't this be a
duplication of what services like Cacheboy and Mirrorbrain already do?

We also have a namespace problem to address: last year, Marco convinced
me to shorten the URL by scrapping the "/sugar" prefix.  This means that
mirrors would now have to configure a virtual host for
download.sugarlabs.org.  We could fix this by re-introducing /sugar and
adding temporary compatibility aliases to the main server, but it
wouldn't work for the mirrors.  What do you think?

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[Sugar-devel] Turtle Art-70 on SoaS3-200909271154.iso

2009-09-27 Thread s . boutayeb
Hi all,

In Turtle Art-70 running on the SoaS3-200909271154.iso, the help messages don't
display well when there is a 2nd line for longer strings.

Another issue is the incomplete localization in this configuration: some strings
(especially in the left panel in TA) remain in EN, even after selecting another
locale (e.g. FR) from the configuration panel. I didn't notice this issue with
sugar-jhbuild (0.84.7).

Best regards,

Samy
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[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New Sugar on a Stick Snapshot Available

2009-09-27 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
After some days of silence, the beast returns [1]. Actually, there's a 
new true SoaS snapshot ready for you, awaiting testing eagerly.

It's available for download from here: 
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/SoaS3-200909271154.iso

Note the increased file size, which is the trade-off for a much faster 
first-time boot process. We're also now shipping a more recent Sugar 
environment than before; but packaging of 0.86 is still in the works. 
You'll probably (in case your machine supports KMS) also notice the new, 
shiny boot screen for Blueberry. Thanks Gary for the artwork!

You might need a new version of the livecd-iso-to-disk script, too. For 
your convenience, you can now grab always the latest version from 
Fedora's GIT through this link: http://bit.ly/livecd-iso-to-disk

Additionally, you'll need to adjust the script's arguments to get a 
working USB key. Please DON'T use the --home-size-mb parameter anymore.

An example call of the script might look like this (unless removing the 
parameters, it will reformat your USB key; data loss included!):

./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 400 
--delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./SoaS3-200909271154.iso 
/dev/sdb1

Please take care of adjusting the overlay size and USB device location 
yourself! Make also sure to add the extra kernel arguments like above, 
too. Otherwise, you'll be left with a non-working solution. This is only 
a temporary issue, though, and will most likely be fixed later.

Report all issues you encounter at our bugtracker [2] and feel free to 
join and introduce yourself on the SoaS mailing list [3].

Next steps are to solve the confusion created by the different release 
numbers spreading around and publishing XO builds at the same time 
(thanks to Martin Dengler for his great work here!).

Thanks,
--Sebastian

[1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/markstos/3605676414/
[2] http://launchpad.net/soas
[3] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas
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[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Introducing a new Mailing List

2009-09-27 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi all,

so here it is, finally, a mailing list for the Sugar on a Stick project. 
If you're interested in its future, technical discussions or just want 
to talk about ideas you've, this is the place to go!

Jump in, say hi and introduce yourself - that's it.

Join the fun here: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas

User feedback might be better suited for IAEP, though. By the way: Other 
Sugar LiveUSB projects are very much welcome on the list, too.

See you there,
--Sebastian
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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Art-70

2009-09-27 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027

Sugar Platform:
from 0.82 to 0.86

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29262

Release notes:
* new translations/artwork for vi, it, fr
* added linewrap to help label (with rgs)
* added label to Help toolbar (to work around bug with small displays)
* caught some exceptions that prevented TA from running outside of Sugar
* fixed bug preventing simple save to HTML for pre-086 systems
* added missing icon for Save from Journal


Reviewer comments:
Trusted activity

Sugar Labs Activities
http://activities.sugarlabs.org

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art-69: long strings in the Help bar

2009-09-27 Thread s . boutayeb
Selon Walter Bender :

> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:27 AM,   wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am just testing the French strings in Turtle Art-69 and I noted following
> > issue:
>
> Thanks for testing :)
>

Well, the next generation of "digital native" around the world simply desserve
it ;-)


> Raul noted this for Spanish as well. We've made a patch to fix it in
> the soon to be released v70.

It's fine, thanks

Regards,

Samy
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art-69: long strings in the Help bar

2009-09-27 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:27 AM,   wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am just testing the French strings in Turtle Art-69 and I noted following
> issue:

Thanks for testing :)

> The help string doesn't display correctrly (the message remains a second on 
> the
> Help bar). The string affected is the French translation of:
>
> EN: returns random number between minimum (left) and maximum (right) values
>
> FR: retourne le nombre aléatoire compris entre les valeurs minimum (à gauche) 
> et
> maximum (à droite)
>
> Should we write shorter strings?

Raul noted this for Spanish as well. We've made a patch to fix it in
the soon to be released v70.

> Another small issue is the incorrect rendering or following string in French
> (from the turtleart-activity.po on the Pootle server):
>
> #: /home/walter/Desktop/turtleart-activity/svg/flowgroup.py:43
> #: /home/walter/Desktop/turtleart-activity/svg/repeat.py:40
> msgid "repeat"
> msgstr "répète"
>
> The orrect string is "répète" ("r", "eacute", "p", "egrave", "t", "e"). It
> displays correctly on the Pootle Web server, but it is rendered incorrectly
> "repéte" in Turtle Art.

That one is my fault. I must have neglected to regenerate the artwork
for FR. I'll add that to the v70 patches.

> TIA
>
> Samy
>
>

regards.

-walter


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[Sugar-devel] Problem with Soas 0913

2009-09-27 Thread Torello Querci
Hi, I suppose that this mail need to be forward to the right guy, please
do it.

I check the latest Soas (20090913 IIRC) and not work. There is 2
problem: the /home/liveuser cannot be created and the Activity directory
is not copied from squashfs to the /home/liveuser directory.

If I run in VirtualBox like CDRom I have no problem because the home.img
is missing and the readonly home ins squashfs is used.


Moreover I try to jhbuild the latest sugar regard the keyboard settings
and not work in my ubuntu box while works on Soas and Fedora. I will
investigate in the next day.


Best Regards,
Torello Querci
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