Re: [Sugar-devel] my plans for 0.88

2009-10-07 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 23:21, Christoph Derndorfer
christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tomeu,
 thanks a lot for picking this up again, I'm very sorry that I totally
 dropped the ball on the deployment feedback topic even though I had intended
 to really follow-up on it... :-/
 Anyway, if it's useful you can use my previously created questionnaire draft
 (http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dG50R2wzakRZX0h6WjI4Y29RMkZacUE6MA..)
 as a starting point, just send me an offlist message with you @gmail address
 so I can give you access to it.

Yes, I was planning to use it as a starting point, but I would like to
make clear that my initiative is much less ambitious, I'm going to
focus on identifying goals for the next few releases. But hopefully,
once we get the ball rolling it will be easier to get more information
about other aspects of deployments.

Thanks,

Tomeu

 Thanks,
 Christoph

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 Hi,

 as you may know, the Sugar code is officially maintained by a few
 people, even though the code base is quite big.

 This has improved recently with Aleksey taking maintenance of the
 datastore and the journal, but still I think that ideally each module
 should be maintained by one or two different people. The present
 accumulation of functions is affecting adversely the quality of our
 work, as there are lots of important tasks that are slipping through
 our fingers.

 In the longer term, I think we'll see deployers of Sugar devoting
 their resources to these tasks, but this is still at least one or two
 releases away. It's important that we reach that point because there's
 a limit to how us volunteers can know what is best for deployers and
 users.

 For now, I think we should accept that people far away from
 deployments are going to be leading the development of Sugar and we
 should plan accordingly. Meaning by this that we should make extra
 efforts in making sure that whatever changes are done to Sugar, or
 features added, they are a win for our users and not a loss. Also, I
 think that by closely relating the work that needs to be done with
 needs in the field, we can better ask for help and get more volunteers
 involved in Sugar development.

 People at OLPC have shown interest in working with us so we get the
 best feedback possible, so I think we have good chances of getting
 very good feedback, though it might take a few iterations to build the
 best possible relationships with those deployers.

 So in the immediate term I'm going to work on a very simple
 questionnaire that will gather a first insight on what is going well,
 what is going bad, which opportunities for improvement are, etc. from
 each deployment, and then finding a way to present this information to
 developers. I know this is not all the feedback that is wanted from
 deployments, but we need to start with something and I think that by
 showing clearly that we care about their needs we'll be able to build
 more complex relationships in the future.

 I will be proposing a Google Spreadsheet form in the next few days
 that deployments will fill if they choose to. I think we'll need to
 have one for OLPC deployments and another for the other deployments
 because in some cases those filling up the form won't be able to
 easily differentiate between hardware and software issues.

 Regards,

 Tomeu

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Re: [Sugar-devel] bug in record version 64

2009-10-07 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 11:35:22AM -0300, Bruno Fabiano wrote:
 image gets stucked while reproducing a video in the 2 new qualities.
 when i try to delete a video system reboots.

What hardware(XO?) and sugar(0.86?) platform you are using?

I'm planing to inspect all honey activities(and Record), I have
commit access to, next week.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] bug in record version 64

2009-10-07 Thread Bruno Fabiano


thanks. im using XO with sugar 0.821


 



 

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 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] bug in record version 64
 
 On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 11:35:22AM -0300, Bruno Fabiano wrote:
  image gets stucked while reproducing a video in the 2 new qualities.
  when i try to delete a video system reboots.
 
 What hardware(XO?) and sugar(0.86?) platform you are using?
 
 I'm planing to inspect all honey activities(and Record), I have
 commit access to, next week.
 
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