[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild on Mandriva (was: Re: [Olpc-france] Demande d'information technique sur Sugar)
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:05:37PM +0200, s.bouta...@free.fr wrote: After executing sugar-jhbuild depscheck, the output is: Warning: unknown distro version, automatic fallback to cooker. ERROR: Dependencies information is missing (unknown distribution/version). Mandriva is only half-supported by sugar-jhbuild because a) we don't have Mandriva VMs to look up and test things (and I currently don't have time to set them up) and b) I don't know where else to look up stuff like package names (e.g. for Debian there is packages.debian.org) Mandriva Linux release 2008.1 (Official) for mipsel We currently only have a config file for 2009.1. If you can verify that 2008.1 has the required versions of all the packages we need, I'm happy to add the config. For testing you can just copy mandrivalinux-2009.1.xml to mandrivalinux-2008.1.xml in sugar-jhbuild/config/sysdeps. I remains at you disposal if you want to test your code on this mips hardware (either on Mandriva or Debian). Debian should work just fine (both native packages and sugar-jhbuild), so would be nice if you could test that. CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] XO emulator for Linux
Hi Wade, thank you very much for your help in getting started with activity development ! Best regards, Walther PS: We'll follow http://git.sugarlabs.org/ for having our ReckonPrimer project hosted, as you recommended a year ago. Since that time the project has become more consolidated. Wade Brainerd wrote: Hi Walther, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Resources links to options for setting up Activity development environment on Windows, Linux and MacOS X. Briefly: For Linux hosts you can use native packages, jhbuild or a virtual machine. The best Windows and Mac option is VirtualBox. The resources page also links to various tutorials, wiki pages, and other references that are useful when learning Activity development. Regarding automated testing, please check the Sugarbot project at http://code.google.com/p/sugarbot/. It looks like it's been idle for about a year, and I'm not sure what stage of completion it reached (who was the mentor btw?), but it may make a good starting point! Best regards, Wade On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Walther Neuper neu...@ist.tugraz.at mailto:neu...@ist.tugraz.at wrote: Hi Tomeu, thank you for your mail ! You ask: Can you give us some more details about what do you plan to develop and how do you expect it to be deployed? Christoph Derndorfer established a project in Austria, where 25 kids of 8-9 years got XOs in 2008. And our Institute will contribute with a new activity requested by the teacher of these kids http://www.ist.tugraz.at/projects/isac/rp/reckonprimer.html Last summer semester 1 student built a prototype, and there are several students (a selection from those listening cc) who want to contribute to this activity during this winter semester. Time scheduled for this is not much more than 100h, thus it is too short to build up a complicated development environment, and too short for getting familiar with complicated things. But we would like to have # our repository somewhere at http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/ # a test-driven development, having something like /usr/share/activities/ReckonPrimer.activity /usr/share/activities/ReckonPrimer.tests # ??? presently I have no more ideas what details to mention. Most students have Linux (Ubuntu etc) on their computers, some Windows. Any suggestions are welcome ! Walther PS: About deployment: our present focus is the school teaching the 25 kids mentioned. If our product will turn out interesting for others, we would be even more motivated ! -- Walther Neuper Mailto: neu...@ist.tugraz.at mailto:neu...@ist.tugraz.at Institute for Software Technology Tel: +43-(0)316/873-5728 University of Technology Fax: +43-(0)316/873-5706 Graz, Austria Home: www.ist.tugraz.at/neuper http://www.ist.tugraz.at/neuper Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi Walther, On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:56, Walther Neuper neu...@ist.tugraz.at mailto:neu...@ist.tugraz.at wrote: Hi, following the instructions on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/Quick_Start/Linux leads for Linux users to olpc-redhat-stream-ship.2-devel_ext3.img.bz2 29-Feb-2008 19:49 206M olpc-redhat-stream-ship.2-build-659-20080229_1949-devel_ext3.img.bz2 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/cscott/olpc/streams/ship.2/latest/devel_ext3/olpc-redhat-stream-ship.2-build-659-20080229_1949-devel_ext3.img.bz2 29-Feb-2008 19:49 206M Christoph Derndorfer pointed out, that both are an outdated versions. Where can we get the actual version for Linux ? Or askel more generally: What kind of development environment would you recommend for Linux ? There are many versions of Sugar, and the differences matter depending on what kind of development you want to do. Can you give us some more details about what do you plan to develop and how do you expect it to be deployed? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walther Neuper Mailto: neu...@ist.tugraz.at Institute for Software Technology
Re: [Sugar-devel] rawhide report: 20091010 changes
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 14:59, Rawhide Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Sat Oct 10 06:15:04 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- konversation-1.2-1.fc12.i686 requires kdelibs4 = 0:4.3.2 sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json [snip, same for x86_64, ppc and ppc64] Removed package gai Removed package gai-pal Removed package gai-temp Removed package python-json Do we have a problem Houston ? -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] rawhide report: 20091010 changes
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 14:59, Rawhide Reportrawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Sat Oct 10 06:15:04 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- konversation-1.2-1.fc12.i686 requires kdelibs4= 0:4.3.2 sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json [snip, same for x86_64, ppc and ppc64] Removed package gai Removed package gai-pal Removed package gai-temp Removed package python-json Do we have a problem Houston ? Houston here! I see Luke Macken has rebuilt sugar-toolkit not to depend on python-json since that got merged into the general python. The obvious question is whether this build got tagged. If not, well, we need a request. And could maybe use that to get the latest Sugar stuff in... ;) --Sebastian -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] sunjammer: upgrade to Jaunty, Sat Oct 10th @ 20:00-24:00EST
Tonight I'm going to upgrade Sunjammer from Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) to 9.04 (Jaunty Jakalope). Considering the amount of services hosted on Sunjammer, this is a delicate procedure. I've already performed a test upgrade on our spare server beamrider to get an idea of what kind of fallout to expect and how to resolve it. Some services may become intermittently unavailable as I update configuration files and restart the various daemons. Advance apologies for the disservice. Fixed time reference: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10day=10year=2009hour=20min=0sec=0p1=43 -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild on Mandriva (was: Re: [Olpc-france] Demande d'information technique sur Sugar)
Selon Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:05:37PM +0200, s.bouta...@free.fr wrote: After executing sugar-jhbuild depscheck, the output is: Warning: unknown distro version, automatic fallback to cooker. ERROR: Dependencies information is missing (unknown distribution/version). Mandriva is only half-supported by sugar-jhbuild because a) we don't have Mandriva VMs to look up and test things (and I currently don't have time to set them up) and b) I don't know where else to look up stuff like package names (e.g. for Debian there is packages.debian.org) Mandriva Linux release 2008.1 (Official) for mipsel We currently only have a config file for 2009.1. If you can verify that 2008.1 has the required versions of all the packages we need, I'm happy to add the config. For testing you can just copy mandrivalinux-2009.1.xml to mandrivalinux-2008.1.xml in sugar-jhbuild/config/sysdeps. I just did it and it resolved the warning with the missing dependencies + with the unknown distro version. Then the missing packages are: alsa-lib-devel avahi-gobject-devel boost-devel dbus-devel dbus-glib-devel dbus-python enchant-devel expat-devel fribidi-devel gnome-vfs2-devel gstreamer0.10-espeak gtk2-devel icon-slicer libabiword libabiword libffi5 libglade2-devel libgsf-devel libxapian15 loudmouth-devel matchbox-common matchbox-window-manager olpcsound popt-devel python-abiword python-decorator python-devel python-distutils-extra python-hippo-canvas python-olpcsound python-xpcom wv-devel xapian-bindings-python xulrunner-devel-unstable zlib-devel Then, at the end of the sugar-jhbuild update phase, I get: *** the following modules were not built *** [40/40] squeak meta-glucose turtleart meta-fructose meta-sugar I am actually in the the sugar-jhbuild build phase More later Samy CU Sascha -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] XO emulator for Linux
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Walther Neuper neu...@ist.tugraz.at wrote: Hi Tomeu, thank you for your mail ! You ask: Can you give us some more details about what do you plan to develop and how do you expect it to be deployed? Christoph Derndorfer established a project in Austria, where 25 kids of 8-9 years got XOs in 2008. And our Institute will contribute with a new activity requested by the teacher of these kids http://www.ist.tugraz.at/projects/isac/rp/reckonprimer.html Last summer semester 1 student built a prototype, and there are several students (a selection from those listening cc) who want to contribute to this activity during this winter semester. Time scheduled for this is not much more than 100h, thus it is too short to build up a complicated development environment, and too short for getting familiar with complicated things. Note that you can build materials inside many Sugar Activities, including Turtle Art, Etoys, Scratch, Pippy, the MIDI music apps, and others, and you can build lesson plans around others, including Measure and Record for scientific data acquisition and so on. I will be happy to assist your students in exercising their imaginations in these directions. I am currently designing a gravity/relativity exhibit for a contest organized by The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose. Mythbusters just did a show on this very subject, testing whether a bullet fired level from a gun will hit the ground at the same time as a bullet dropped from the same height. This and the fact that the parallel projection of a parabola is a parabola are both aspects of Galilean relativity. http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-simultaneous-bullet-release.html But we would like to have # our repository somewhere at http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/ # a test-driven development, having something like /usr/share/activities/ReckonPrimer.activity /usr/share/activities/ReckonPrimer.tests # ??? presently I have no more ideas what details to mention. Most students have Linux (Ubuntu etc) on their computers, some Windows. Any suggestions are welcome ! Walther PS: About deployment: our present focus is the school teaching the 25 kids mentioned. If our product will turn out interesting for others, we would be even more motivated ! -- Walther Neuper Mailto: neu...@ist.tugraz.at Institute for Software Technology Tel: +43-(0)316/873-5728 University of Technology Fax: +43-(0)316/873-5706 Graz, Austria Home: www.ist.tugraz.at/neuper Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi Walther, On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:56, Walther Neuper neu...@ist.tugraz.at wrote: Hi, following the instructions on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/Quick_Start/Linux leads for Linux users to olpc-redhat-stream-ship.2-devel_ext3.img.bz2 29-Feb-2008 19:49 206M olpc-redhat-stream-ship.2-build-659-20080229_1949-devel_ext3.img.bz2 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/cscott/olpc/streams/ship.2/latest/devel_ext3/olpc-redhat-stream-ship.2-build-659-20080229_1949-devel_ext3.img.bz2 29-Feb-2008 19:49 206M Christoph Derndorfer pointed out, that both are an outdated versions. Where can we get the actual version for Linux ? Or askel more generally: What kind of development environment would you recommend for Linux ? There are many versions of Sugar, and the differences matter depending on what kind of development you want to do. Can you give us some more details about what do you plan to develop and how do you expect it to be deployed? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
