[Sugar-devel] List of widgets used in Sugar?
Is there a list of current widgets that are used in Sugar activities? The Activity Team's wiki[1] now links to a page that is labelled as obsolete. *Status* My focus is currently on the widget identification system for Experior [2] (nee Sugarbot). The system enables scripting to take place. The system needs to support Sugar > 0.84 widgets (icons, rather than text). As every type of gtk.Widget has its own quirks, I would like to prioritise them. More generally, Experior is coming along relatively nicely. I am progressively rewriting quite a lot of unpythonic code. This should result speedups & readability improvements. I still expect the code to be replaced with Dogtail, but I'm not sure how difficult that will be. The canonical branch is being hosted on GitHub [3]. Partially because I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. Mainly because of its lightweight issue tracker. Once I feel that the code is at a fairly stable state, I'll move the tracker to bugs.sugarlabs.org. *Emerging Issues:* - Experior is designed to test actvities, I can't seem to test sugar-core UI feature atm [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team#sugar-widgets_library [2] http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/experior [3] http://github.com/timClicks/experior ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Appropriate to call myself "senior developer"?
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 18:26, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Sun, 15-08-2010 a las 11:41 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: >> > ...as long as I can be "Senior Wizard Extraordinaire and Überhaxc0r at >> > Sugar Labs and everywhere else" :-) >> >> Calling ourselves wizards would be interesting. > > Oompa-Loompas might be more appropriate :-) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oompa-Loompa Certainly! Btw, Sascha has certainly showed over-the-top engineering (and not only) skills. Regards, Tomeu > -- > // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ > \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Control Panel
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 18:36, David Farning wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:48 PM, wrote: >> Hi, >> I was working on making some changes in sugar control panel in Ubuntu >> ,such that it should not require any restart even when very small change >> is made. So, can you tell me and help me out to figure that what changes >> are small enough so that they should not require changes.I will Try to >> make changes accordingly. >> On my findings, >> 1. my xo >> 2. date and time >> 3.frames >> 4.languages >> 5.modem configuration >> >> in the above options i am not able to make changes without restart.the >> rest options are working fine without restart. >> when we click on restart it doesnt restart sugar either. >> >> Few pointers would be helpful and I would really appreciate your support >> in this direction. >> >> Regards, >> Ankur Khurana. >> Research Engineer,SEETA >> http://seeta.in/ > > I would suggest starting with the date time configurating. > 1. Look at the code how date/time are handles in the Sugar control panel. > 2. Look at the code for gnome clock handles updating the date and > time without a restart. > 3. Apply what you learned in step two to step one. Also, it may be interesting to search the mailing lists archives and the bug trackers, I seem to remember this was discussed back then when it was first implemented. Regards, Tomeu > david > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Control Panel
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 4:48 PM, wrote: > Hi, > I was working on making some changes in sugar control panel in Ubuntu > ,such that it should not require any restart even when very small change > is made. So, can you tell me and help me out to figure that what changes > are small enough so that they should not require changes.I will Try to > make changes accordingly. > On my findings, > 1. my xo > 2. date and time > 3.frames > 4.languages > 5.modem configuration > > in the above options i am not able to make changes without restart.the > rest options are working fine without restart. > when we click on restart it doesnt restart sugar either. > > Few pointers would be helpful and I would really appreciate your support > in this direction. > > Regards, > Ankur Khurana. > Research Engineer,SEETA > http://seeta.in/ I would suggest starting with the date time configurating. 1. Look at the code how date/time are handles in the Sugar control panel. 2. Look at the code for gnome clock handles updating the date and time without a restart. 3. Apply what you learned in step two to step one. david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] (no subject)
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Lucian Branescu wrote: > On 15 August 2010 15:38, wrote: >> HI all, >> When we start sugar-emulator in ubuntu , The title text in emulator window >> shows [Xephyr on 30.0].Now , after going through code and other resources >> what i deducted is that Xephyr is window/session manager which we uses to >> run sugar on Ubuntu.Now when i tried to find the source for text in code >> ,but I was directed towards xpehyr which means that the text in window is >> given by Xephyr . Now , i was wondering if there is any way so that we >> could indiacate that sugar emulator session was in progress.Like >> replacing/adding text in title bar with Sugar-something ? > > Xephyr is the X server used by sugar-emulator to run Sugar in a > window, rather than fullscreen. When running sugar on ubuntu we have two options: 1. Running sugar as a session and 2. Running sugar from the applications -> Education menu USR used Sugar-emulator (xephry) to provide sugar without requiring the user to log out and back in. david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Appropriate to call myself "senior developer"?
El Sun, 15-08-2010 a las 11:41 +0100, Lucian Branescu escribió: > > ...as long as I can be "Senior Wizard Extraordinaire and Überhaxc0r at > > Sugar Labs and everywhere else" :-) > > Calling ourselves wizards would be interesting. Oompa-Loompas might be more appropriate :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oompa-Loompa -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] (no subject)
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 16:38, wrote: > HI all, > When we start sugar-emulator in ubuntu , The title text in emulator window > shows [Xephyr on 30.0].Now , after going through code and other resources > what i deducted is that Xephyr is window/session manager which we uses to > run sugar on Ubuntu. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xephyr > Now when i tried to find the source for text in code > ,but I was directed towards xpehyr which means that the text in window is > given by Xephyr . Now , i was wondering if there is any way so that we > could indiacate that sugar emulator session was in progress.Like > replacing/adding text in title bar with Sugar-something ? $ Xephyr -h Regards, Tomeu > Regards, > Ankur > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] (no subject)
On 15 August 2010 15:38, wrote: > HI all, > When we start sugar-emulator in ubuntu , The title text in emulator window > shows [Xephyr on 30.0].Now , after going through code and other resources > what i deducted is that Xephyr is window/session manager which we uses to > run sugar on Ubuntu.Now when i tried to find the source for text in code > ,but I was directed towards xpehyr which means that the text in window is > given by Xephyr . Now , i was wondering if there is any way so that we > could indiacate that sugar emulator session was in progress.Like > replacing/adding text in title bar with Sugar-something ? Xephyr is the X server used by sugar-emulator to run Sugar in a window, rather than fullscreen. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] (no subject)
HI all, When we start sugar-emulator in ubuntu , The title text in emulator window shows [Xephyr on 30.0].Now , after going through code and other resources what i deducted is that Xephyr is window/session manager which we uses to run sugar on Ubuntu.Now when i tried to find the source for text in code ,but I was directed towards xpehyr which means that the text in window is given by Xephyr . Now , i was wondering if there is any way so that we could indiacate that sugar emulator session was in progress.Like replacing/adding text in title bar with Sugar-something ? Regards, Ankur ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch for documentation of graphics/animator.py
Tomeu, Thank you for the pointers. Appreciate it. We'll have a meeting this evening to discuss on your timely feedback. Regards, Manu On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 18:02, wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I've made some changes to the docstrings in graphics/animator.py for its > > documentation and have uploaded the HTML generated using sphinx at: > > http://seeta.in/sugar/api/documentation/desttemp/html2/animator.html > > > > You can compare it with the initial one at: > > http://api.sugarlabs.org/sphinx/animator.html > > > > Attaching the original and new animator.py files along with the patch > > generated using 'git format-patch master' > > > > I've also made a spreadsheet for the documentation and am maintaining it > at > > > https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/seeta.in/ccc?key=0AjslliQkdNyvdFZjWnNwcEZzSC1fMkt6ZDlOOUFFMUE&hl=en#gid=0 > > Attaching it. > > > > Please see if you would like to help or let me know in case of any > > suggestions/feedback. > > Hi Kandarp, some suggestions follow: > > > Subject: [PATCH] description of animator.py > > The docstring for the module animator.py isn't really included in this > patch. > > > animator1.py | 69 > ++--- > > This is very weird as there's no animator1.py file in sugar-toolkit. > Please go through a git tutorial first, we'll all save time. > > > +:Inherits: gobject.GObject > > Sphinx cannot get this information from the code? Is it common > practice in sphinx-generated docs? > > > +Returns > > +- None > > Can we leave this implicit? > > > +Description: Adds animation type > > Why type? Seems to be adding an Animation instance. > > > +Parameters > > +- None > > Can we leave this implicit? > > > +Description: Stops animation, removes animation type > > See above. > > > +Description: Records starting time, sets timeout_sid > > Docstrings should describe functionality, not explain the implementation. > > > +class Animation(object): > > Watch out adding trailing spaces > > > +Description: Updates frame, ends after t=duration > > PEP 257 says to use the first line for the one-line summary. > > Are you using any documented guidelines for the format of the docstrings? > > I would _strongly_ advise to start by adding docstrings to packages > and modules. And only once that's done then get to classes and other > top-level elements, then finally to methods. > > If you try to document the details before understanding the big > picture, you are likely to fail. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > > Regards, > > Kandarp. > > > > > > ___ > > Sugar-devel mailing list > > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > > > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch for documentation of graphics/animator.py
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 18:02, wrote: > Hello all, > > I've made some changes to the docstrings in graphics/animator.py for its > documentation and have uploaded the HTML generated using sphinx at: > http://seeta.in/sugar/api/documentation/desttemp/html2/animator.html > > You can compare it with the initial one at: > http://api.sugarlabs.org/sphinx/animator.html > > Attaching the original and new animator.py files along with the patch > generated using 'git format-patch master' > > I've also made a spreadsheet for the documentation and am maintaining it at > https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/seeta.in/ccc?key=0AjslliQkdNyvdFZjWnNwcEZzSC1fMkt6ZDlOOUFFMUE&hl=en#gid=0 > Attaching it. > > Please see if you would like to help or let me know in case of any > suggestions/feedback. Hi Kandarp, some suggestions follow: > Subject: [PATCH] description of animator.py The docstring for the module animator.py isn't really included in this patch. > animator1.py | 69 ++--- This is very weird as there's no animator1.py file in sugar-toolkit. Please go through a git tutorial first, we'll all save time. > +:Inherits: gobject.GObject Sphinx cannot get this information from the code? Is it common practice in sphinx-generated docs? > +Returns > +- None Can we leave this implicit? > +Description: Adds animation type Why type? Seems to be adding an Animation instance. > +Parameters > +- None Can we leave this implicit? > +Description: Stops animation, removes animation type See above. > +Description: Records starting time, sets timeout_sid Docstrings should describe functionality, not explain the implementation. > +class Animation(object): Watch out adding trailing spaces > +Description: Updates frame, ends after t=duration PEP 257 says to use the first line for the one-line summary. Are you using any documented guidelines for the format of the docstrings? I would _strongly_ advise to start by adding docstrings to packages and modules. And only once that's done then get to classes and other top-level elements, then finally to methods. If you try to document the details before understanding the big picture, you are likely to fail. Regards, Tomeu > Regards, > Kandarp. > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Appropriate to call myself "senior developer"?
On 15 August 2010 05:19, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > El Sat, 14-08-2010 a las 12:28 +0200, Sascha Silbe escribió: >> Hi! >> >> Would anyone dislike me calling myself "senior developer and system >> administrator at Sugar Labs" in my CV or consider it inappropriate? If >> so, what other description would you recommend? > > +1 from me... > > ...as long as I can be "Senior Wizard Extraordinaire and Überhaxc0r at > Sugar Labs and everywhere else" :-) Calling ourselves wizards would be interesting. And Silbe, +1. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
