[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Tessellations-7

2011-01-03 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4366

Sugar Platform:
0.82 - 0.90

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27161/tessellations-7.xo

Release notes:
The activity is now sugar coated. This means players will no longer be 
offered non-existent sharing. In addition, the activity now responds correctly 
to a request for a new start.

In addition it has been redesigned to be more battery friendly.



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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Boxes-15

2011-01-03 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4371

Sugar Platform:
0.82 - 0.90

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27162/boxes-15.xo

Release notes:
Redesigned to be more battery friendly.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] dependency management between a sugar environment and activity versions

2011-01-03 Thread Thomas Gilliard

It is a little out of date; but this link may help you:
(Based on .xo files from ASLO)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results
satellit
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Nagarjuna G wrote:

Though jhbuild takes care of getting a version of sugar environment,
we do not seem to have a mechanism to know in advance which version of
an activity runs on a particular snapshot of sugar-jhbiuld.  If this
information is already existing somewhere, please direct me to that
discussion or page.

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[Sugar-devel] [Fwd: Re: dependency management between a sugar environment and activity versions]

2011-01-03 Thread Thomas C Gilliard

(resent from correct e-mail)

It is a little out of date; but this link may help you:
(Based on .xo files from ASLO)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results 


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Nagarjuna G wrote:

Though jhbuild takes care of getting a version of sugar environment,
we do not seem to have a mechanism to know in advance which version of
an activity runs on a particular snapshot of sugar-jhbiuld.  If this
information is already existing somewhere, please direct me to that
discussion or page.

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It is a little out of date; but this link may help you:
(Based on .xo files from ASLO)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table#Activity_Test_Results
satellit
#sugar IRC freenode

Nagarjuna G wrote:

Though jhbuild takes care of getting a version of sugar environment,
we do not seem to have a mechanism to know in advance which version of
an activity runs on a particular snapshot of sugar-jhbiuld.  If this
information is already existing somewhere, please direct me to that
discussion or page.

Thanks
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Copyright notices

2011-01-03 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On 3 Jan 2011, at 02:43, Bernie Innocenti wrote:

  On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:22 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
 
  Unfair to timezone challenged.  ;-}  Alternatively, describe who has to
  express their view on a consensus decision.  It's not clear to me.  I
  never know when a decision here has reached consensus.
 
  It seems that now you have to seek approval from either Silbe or Erikos
  to get a patch in.
 
  We don't seem to have a UI dictator yet. Not even a committee. So my
  hope is that, at this time, UI patches don't have to go through a
  vaguely-defined Design Team for approval.

 Please, please, for the love of UI things you hold dear, no distracting
 splash screens, and no extra junk menus for the lawyers. If you want to know
 about copyright text, just go click View Source.


First, I don't think the menu on the Frame is particularly overcrowded,
although I am loath to overload the Stop button. But more to the point, I
think About is much more than extra junk for the lawyers. The license is
important as it tells the user that they can modify the code: most users
probably don't know that, But it is also a chance to provide additional
information about an activity, for example, a link to the activity home
page.

-walter


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Re: [Sugar-devel] update on virtual keyboard

2011-01-03 Thread Esteban Arias
Dextrose version includes this virtual keyboard:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Accessibility_virtualkeyboard



2011/1/3 Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org

 Can some one point me to an update on virtual keyboard for sugar?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] update on virtual keyboard

2011-01-03 Thread Gary Martin
On 3 Jan 2011, at 07:31, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:

 Can some one point me to an update on virtual keyboard for sugar?

Sayamindu was working on this more integrated Sugar virtual keyboard last year 
based on vkbd:

http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/sugar_vkbd_multi.ogv
http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/sugar_vkbd.ogv

I think he was working on it here:

http://dev.laptop.org/~sayamindu/sugar-vkbd-test/

It worked well when I tested it, though it was short at the time on 
characters/symbols you would need if you were trying to encourage some use of 
programming.

Regards,
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[Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2011-01-03

2011-01-03 Thread Walter Bender
== Sugar Digest ==

1. I have been struggling with my end-of-the-year summary; I have
always been more interested in looking forward than looking
backward. Nonetheless:

The numbers tell some of the story of 2010: we have almost 2-million
users, including 100% of the children of Uruguay; we had almost
5-million downloads from our Activity portal; we released Sugar
versions 0.88 and 0.90. The most telling number is 12, the
age of our youngest contributor.

As Sugar matures, we are entering a new phase where more of the
activity is in the hands of our user community. While we debated how
best to get teachers engaged, the teachers themselves have started
reaching out to each other and to us. While we debated how best to
mesh our development cycle with the needs of OLPC and the distros, the
deployments put together their own builds, meeting their own needs.

As with any project, we have had some churn. Tomeu Vizoso and
Sebastian Dziallas have moved on to other projects; others are
increasing their engagement: Marco Pesenti Gritti is back. Simon
Schampijer and Sascha Silbe are taking over responsibility for
Glucose; Peter Robinson is the new Sugar-on-a-Stick lead; Tom Gilliard
is advancing our efforts around virtual machine support. We have a
renewed engagement with the OLPC association in Miami, a group
dedicated to the original vision of the project. Activity Central and
Seeta are among the commercial enterprises offering Sugar support. We
have some prolific new activity developers, notably ChristferR and
Mulawa. I would be remiss in not mentioning the on-going contributions
of Aleksey Lim, who is touching every corner of the project. The Sur
community has increased its activity and presence in global
community. We have a board member from the South, weekly debates on
pedagogy in Spanish, led by Claudia Urrea, keep us focuses on our
mission. Meanwhile, Gary Martin has taken on the bulk of the design
burden. We'd be no where without the time spent by Daniel Drake and
Bernie Innocenti efforts at deployments. And Bernie and Dogi keep our
infrastructure running. Of course, there are literally 1000s of others
contributing to Sugar development and Sugar deployments. Your efforts
are making a difference.

Other 2010 events of note:

The first Sugar twins: The Sugar community just got larger: Pablo
Flores and Micaela Acosta had twins, Nacieron Facundo and Sasha, born
on 27 December.

The first Sugar couple: Sebastian Silva and Laura Vargas met as
volunteers and were married this fall.

I'll do the leadership thing and blog about ‘Here’s what we’re going
to do. Here’s how we’re going to do it. Here’s why we’re going to do
it.’ some time in January. Meanwhile, thank you for the great effort
and great accomplishments of 2010.

===Sugar Labs===

Gary Martin has generated a SOM from the past few weeks of discussion
on the IAEP mailing list.

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:2010-Dec-24-Jan-01-som.jpg (37 emails)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:2010-Dec-18-24-som.jpg (16 emails)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:2010-Dec-11-17-som.jpg (46 emails)

Visit http://planet.sugarlabs.org for more updates about Sugar and Sugar
deployments.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Copyright notices

2011-01-03 Thread Gary Martin
On 3 Jan 2011, at 13:09, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 On 3 Jan 2011, at 02:43, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:22 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
 
  Unfair to timezone challenged.  ;-}  Alternatively, describe who has to
  express their view on a consensus decision.  It's not clear to me.  I
  never know when a decision here has reached consensus.
 
  It seems that now you have to seek approval from either Silbe or Erikos
  to get a patch in.
 
  We don't seem to have a UI dictator yet. Not even a committee. So my
  hope is that, at this time, UI patches don't have to go through a
  vaguely-defined Design Team for approval.
 
 Please, please, for the love of UI things you hold dear, no distracting 
 splash screens, and no extra junk menus for the lawyers. If you want to know 
 about copyright text, just go click View Source.
 
 First, I don't think the menu on the Frame is particularly overcrowded, 
 although I am loath to overload the Stop button. But more to the point, I 
 think About is much more than extra junk for the lawyers. The license is 
 important as it tells the user that they can modify the code: most users 
 probably don't know that, But it is also a chance to provide additional 
 information about an activity, for example, a link to the activity home page.

I'm not convinced it is worth the effort and data churn.

Adding one new item to the Activities Frame menus seems fairly minimal, but 
than now raises a new modal (?) dialogue, will that sit over/under possibly 
having the control panel, or  object chooser, or view source dialogue open at 
the same time? Can the user switch away to another activity/view with it still 
open when they return?

If we provide a web link to an activity home page, how does that get triggered? 
We make the user copy and paste it? We make it an active link that tries to 
auto start a new Browse instance? Which one page should it link to, 
wiki.sl.org, activities.sl.org, git.sl.org, bugs.sl.org?

Which one authors name gets listed? Most have several intermittant hands on, or 
none, and often the original author has long since moved on.

Release date, another field an author has to remember to manually update in the 
activity.info file?

Sorry if I've missed some important back channel chat about the need for this, 
but -1 here from the arguments I've read.

Regards,
--Gary

 -walter
 
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[Sugar-devel] PyDebug Activity needs users

2011-01-03 Thread George Hunt
Hi Everyone,

*PyDebug* is an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) and learning tool
for writing and debugging Sugar Activities using an offline stand alone XO.
It is Pippy's older sister.

*DOWNLOAD http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:PyDebug-7.xo* XO bundle using
this link.

Quick *OVERVIEW*http://georgejhunt.com/olpc/pydebug/pydebug/application.htmlof
essential features.

It am humbled to realize that it's been over a year since I set out to steal
code from as many sources as I could find, and to try for a minimalist stand
alone debugging Activity that would be useful offline. At this point I'm
fairly pleased with the basic functionality. But even with minimal
objectives, the ccde has grown beyond what I can easily handle (about 8K
lines --more than half of it borrowed)!

I've found it really hard to work by myself.  I took time out this last year
to write *XoPhoto http://xophoto.wordpress.com/*, and had some extremely
useful help from Bruce Bell-Meyers in Minnesota.  We talked weekly for a
couple of months, and it really helped to have a fresh perspective looking
at the stuff I was stewing about.

I have been spending the last few weeks writing basic programming howto's --
necessary -- but I'm thinking that my time would better be spent fixing
features and bugs that are getting in the way.

So it's time to put PyDebug out for your testing and feedback.  It's
definitely a work in progress, but it's far enough along to see its shape. I
solicit your responses.

I have set up links to the downloads, documentation, and invite your
comments at http://pydebug.wordpress.com. I will try to incorporate my
responses into a thriving FAQ section on the wordpress site.

Thanks in advance for your help,

George
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Re: [Sugar-devel] PyDebug Activity needs users

2011-01-03 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:50 AM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 *PyDebug* is an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) and learning tool
 for writing and debugging Sugar Activities using an offline stand alone XO.
 It is Pippy's older sister.

 *DOWNLOAD http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:PyDebug-7.xo* XO bundle using
 this link.

 Quick 
 *OVERVIEW*http://georgejhunt.com/olpc/pydebug/pydebug/application.htmlof 
 essential features.

 It am humbled to realize that it's been over a year since I set out to
 steal code from as many sources as I could find, and to try for a minimalist
 stand alone debugging Activity that would be useful offline. At this point
 I'm fairly pleased with the basic functionality. But even with minimal
 objectives, the ccde has grown beyond what I can easily handle (about 8K
 lines --more than half of it borrowed)!

 I've found it really hard to work by myself.  I took time out this last
 year to write *XoPhoto http://xophoto.wordpress.com/*, and had some
 extremely useful help from Bruce Bell-Meyers in Minnesota.  We talked weekly
 for a couple of months, and it really helped to have a fresh perspective
 looking at the stuff I was stewing about.

 I have been spending the last few weeks writing basic programming howto's
 -- necessary -- but I'm thinking that my time would better be spent fixing
 features and bugs that are getting in the way.

 So it's time to put PyDebug out for your testing and feedback.  It's
 definitely a work in progress, but it's far enough along to see its shape. I
 solicit your responses.

 I have set up links to the downloads, documentation, and invite your
 comments at http://pydebug.wordpress.com. I will try to incorporate my
 responses into a thriving FAQ section on the wordpress site.


Can you add your blog to the Sugar planet (planet.sugarlabs.org)?

-walter


 Thanks in advance for your help,

 George

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Re: [Sugar-devel] PyDebug Activity needs users

2011-01-03 Thread Holt

George,
So sorry we missed you in the end last week at our olpcMAP Sprint with 
almost 500 deployments/volunteers now organized showcasing their best 
work more vividly every day:


http://olpcMAP.net
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OlpcMAP
http://olpcMAP.net/community

Can you add both your great blogs:

http://xophoto.wordpress.com
http://pydebug.wordpress.com

So that more folks benefit below here?  Thanks!!

http://planet.laptop.org (planetmas...@laptop.org)
http://planet.sugarlabs.org (planetmas...@sugarlabs.org)


On 1/3/2011 10:59 AM, Walter Bender wrote:



On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:50 AM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com 
mailto:georgejh...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Everyone,

*PyDebug* is an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) and
learning tool for writing and debugging Sugar Activities using an
offline stand alone XO. It is Pippy's older sister.

*DOWNLOAD http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:PyDebug-7.xo* XO bundle
using this link.

Quick *OVERVIEW*
http://georgejhunt.com/olpc/pydebug/pydebug/application.html of
essential features.

It am humbled to realize that it's been over a year since I set
out to steal code from as many sources as I could find, and to try
for a minimalist stand alone debugging Activity that would be
useful offline. At this point I'm fairly pleased with the basic
functionality. But even with minimal objectives, the ccde has
grown beyond what I can easily handle (about 8K lines --more than
half of it borrowed)!

I've found it really hard to work by myself.  I took time out this
last year to write *XoPhoto http://xophoto.wordpress.com/*, and
had some extremely useful help from Bruce Bell-Meyers in
Minnesota.  We talked weekly for a couple of months, and it really
helped to have a fresh perspective looking at the stuff I was
stewing about.

I have been spending the last few weeks writing basic programming
howto's -- necessary -- but I'm thinking that my time would better
be spent fixing features and bugs that are getting in the way.

So it's time to put PyDebug out for your testing and feedback. 
It's definitely a work in progress, but it's far enough along to

see its shape. I solicit your responses.

I have set up links to the downloads, documentation, and invite
your comments at http://pydebug.wordpress.com. I will try to
incorporate my responses into a thriving FAQ section on the
wordpress site.


Can you add your blog to the Sugar planet (planet.sugarlabs.org 
http://planet.sugarlabs.org)?


-walter


Thanks in advance for your help,

George

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Copyright notices

2011-01-03 Thread Sameer Verma
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 3 Jan 2011, at 13:09, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 On 3 Jan 2011, at 02:43, Bernie Innocenti wrote:

  On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:22 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
 
  Unfair to timezone challenged.  ;-}  Alternatively, describe who has to
  express their view on a consensus decision.  It's not clear to me.  I
  never know when a decision here has reached consensus.
 
  It seems that now you have to seek approval from either Silbe or Erikos
  to get a patch in.
 
  We don't seem to have a UI dictator yet. Not even a committee. So my
  hope is that, at this time, UI patches don't have to go through a
  vaguely-defined Design Team for approval.

 Please, please, for the love of UI things you hold dear, no distracting
 splash screens, and no extra junk menus for the lawyers. If you want to know
 about copyright text, just go click View Source.

 First, I don't think the menu on the Frame is particularly overcrowded,
 although I am loath to overload the Stop button. But more to the point, I
 think About is much more than extra junk for the lawyers. The license is
 important as it tells the user that they can modify the code: most users
 probably don't know that, But it is also a chance to provide additional
 information about an activity, for example, a link to the activity home
 page.

 I'm not convinced it is worth the effort and data churn.
 Adding one new item to the Activities Frame menus seems fairly minimal, but
 than now raises a new modal (?) dialogue, will that sit over/under possibly
 having the control panel, or  object chooser, or view source dialogue open
 at the same time? Can the user switch away to another activity/view with it
 still open when they return?
 If we provide a web link to an activity home page, how does that get
 triggered? We make the user copy and paste it? We make it an active link
 that tries to auto start a new Browse instance? Which one page should it
 link to, wiki.sl.org, activities.sl.org, git.sl.org, bugs.sl.org?
 Which one authors name gets listed? Most have several intermittant hands on,
 or none, and often the original author has long since moved on.
 Release date, another field an author has to remember to manually update in
 the activity.info file?
 Sorry if I've missed some important back channel chat about the need for
 this, but -1 here from the arguments I've read.
 Regards,
 --Gary


Can we set up a mechanism where all activities available in a Sugar
environment on a particular machine get listed in a panel off the
Control Panel (like the Sugar license). This way, we have an aggregate
view of activities, licenses, authors, etc. from the panel instead of
each activity.

My understanding of Sugar's inner workings is too little to figure out
*how* this would be implemented...

cheers,
Sameer

 -walter

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Copyright notices

2011-01-03 Thread Gary Martin
On 3 Jan 2011, at 19:21, Sameer Verma wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 On 3 Jan 2011, at 13:09, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 On 3 Jan 2011, at 02:43, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:22 +1100, James Cameron wrote:
 
 Unfair to timezone challenged.  ;-}  Alternatively, describe who has to
 express their view on a consensus decision.  It's not clear to me.  I
 never know when a decision here has reached consensus.
 
 It seems that now you have to seek approval from either Silbe or Erikos
 to get a patch in.
 
 We don't seem to have a UI dictator yet. Not even a committee. So my
 hope is that, at this time, UI patches don't have to go through a
 vaguely-defined Design Team for approval.
 
 Please, please, for the love of UI things you hold dear, no distracting
 splash screens, and no extra junk menus for the lawyers. If you want to know
 about copyright text, just go click View Source.
 
 First, I don't think the menu on the Frame is particularly overcrowded,
 although I am loath to overload the Stop button. But more to the point, I
 think About is much more than extra junk for the lawyers. The license is
 important as it tells the user that they can modify the code: most users
 probably don't know that, But it is also a chance to provide additional
 information about an activity, for example, a link to the activity home
 page.
 
 I'm not convinced it is worth the effort and data churn.
 Adding one new item to the Activities Frame menus seems fairly minimal, but
 than now raises a new modal (?) dialogue, will that sit over/under possibly
 having the control panel, or  object chooser, or view source dialogue open
 at the same time? Can the user switch away to another activity/view with it
 still open when they return?
 If we provide a web link to an activity home page, how does that get
 triggered? We make the user copy and paste it? We make it an active link
 that tries to auto start a new Browse instance? Which one page should it
 link to, wiki.sl.org, activities.sl.org, git.sl.org, bugs.sl.org?
 Which one authors name gets listed? Most have several intermittant hands on,
 or none, and often the original author has long since moved on.
 Release date, another field an author has to remember to manually update in
 the activity.info file?
 Sorry if I've missed some important back channel chat about the need for
 this, but -1 here from the arguments I've read.
 Regards,
 --Gary
 
 
 Can we set up a mechanism where all activities available in a Sugar
 environment on a particular machine get listed in a panel off the
 Control Panel (like the Sugar license). This way, we have an aggregate
 view of activities, licenses, authors, etc. from the panel instead of
 each activity.

This feature already exists and is called the activity list view, it is 
available from the home favourites view. Would you like it to include more 
information for some specific reason (I've already mentioned 'author' and 'web 
page' is a very fuzzy value to ask for, and license is best served by clicking 
'view source').

FWIW: From a UI standpoint there is (some) agreement to remove the home list 
view at some point and have the Journal provide information on installed 
activity bundles (too many of our target users see the list view as a Journal 
view and get confused, sometimes deleting activities when they mean to delete 
individual Journal entries to free up space).

Regards,
--Gary

 My understanding of Sugar's inner workings is too little to figure out
 *how* this would be implemented...
 
 cheers,
 Sameer
 
 -walter
 
 --Gary
 
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Copyright notices

2011-01-03 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 21:36 +, Gary Martin wrote:

 FWIW: From a UI standpoint there is (some) agreement to remove the
 home list view at some point and have the Journal provide information
 on installed activity bundles

fwiw, I agree. We could have activities as a separate icon in the device
bar. (the schoolserver should also be there).


  (too many of our target users see the list view as a Journal view and
 get confused, sometimes deleting activities when they mean to delete
 individual Journal entries to free up space).

Errr... I'm afraid children know *exactly* what they're doing when they
ditch GCompris to make room for more mp3s... Then they put the blame on
the computer to escape punishment :-)

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