Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] copy files to/from server
Excerpts from Martin Langhoff's message of Tue May 17 18:34:09 +0200 2011: Unfortuntely, there's no easy way to do it with CIFS or NFS -- it would be an interesting addition to Sugar (possibly to the Journal) but it's a big project. NFS mounts do turn up as storage devices in the Journal (at least on Debian Squeeze). They will be treated exactly the same as other storage devices, i.e. USB sticks and SD cards. I would expect CIFS mounts to behave the same way. Don't forget to tweak the mount options to avoid processes from going zombie-like on connection loss. If you had an XS, you could probably use the DataManager activity [1]. A properly configured HTTP server will at least allow you serve a) any kind of content with a proper Content-Type (- mime_type) directly (but without other metadata) and b) Journal Entry Bundles [2] including full metadata. There's currently no way to create a (single-entry) JEB directly from within Sugar. Writing an activity that does so shouldn't be hard; you can copy the bundle generation parts from Backup [3]. Sascha [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4208 [2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_entry_bundles [3] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4326 -- http://sascha.silbe.org/ http://www.infra-silbe.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] Search in Favourites View is disabled
James Cameron qu...@laptop.org writes: It would be useful both in the list view and in the Home circle view -- if the search field is to become usable one day (which I hope). Of course. Anyone willing to take action on this? My proposal is to distinguish sticky activities from favorite activities: the former are the one deployments and teachers want always in the Home view, the latter are the ones the children want for some reason, for some time. Sounds interesting, but I really don't know if it would be interesting to the design team. If there's now two reasons for an activity to be present, this makes it more complex for the learner. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Me neither. I was more pointing something that sounded conceptually relevant, whether it is ergonomically relevant is yet another question, that's right. -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Get Books-7
Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org writes: Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27365/get_books-7.xo Thanks for this new release. Release notes: Display summary of books bassed in configuration (Daniel Castelo) Don't show link in book description (Daniel Castelo) Cancel previous download image threads (Daniel Castelo) Arrange the text in the description to better fit in the widget space Can I safely infer that Daniel is the new maintainer? (There is no AUTHORS file, I cannot find the right person to contact.) James Simmons told me that I could use GetBooks with a local OPDS xml file and a set of .ePub. Did anyone already do so? Can anyone point me at some existing (simple) OPDS file so that I can take a stab at this? My goal is to provide a library of ePub readable with GetBooks in a place where there is no internet connection. Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] Search in Favourites View is disabled
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:05:22AM +0200, Bastien wrote: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org writes: It would be useful both in the list view and in the Home circle view -- if the search field is to become usable one day (which I hope). Of course. Anyone willing to take action on this? Not I. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-devel] It is Python2.6 and GTK2.0
I could not find any line relating to pygtk in my trisquel image, so that's why i were advised to search for python and gtk separately. Regards 2011/5/18 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org Please don't change the subject line and start a new thread in the middle of a discussion. It confuses readers and wastes time. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:51:43PM +0200, laurent bernabe wrote: Thanks, my python version is 2.6 and my gtk version is 2.0 Okay, but that wasn't what you were asked. What is the python-gtk version? (I could download the image myself, but that's a big job for where I am). -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-devel] It is Python2.6 and GTK2.0
I forgot to reply to CC (apologizes) 2011/5/18 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com Sorry for the subject changes (i am new in mailing-lists), in my knew subject, i posted the informations i got from image : = +++ Name VersionDescription un python-gtk No description No description un python-gtk-1.2No description No description ii python-gtk22.17.0-0ubuntu2 Python bindings for GTK Widgets (the 2 other lines are about python-gtk2-doc and python-gtksourceview2, so i did not put details for these) Regards 2011/5/18 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com I could not find any line relating to pygtk in my trisquel image, so that's why i were advised to search for python and gtk separately. Regards 2011/5/18 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org Please don't change the subject line and start a new thread in the middle of a discussion. It confuses readers and wastes time. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 05:51:43PM +0200, laurent bernabe wrote: Thanks, my python version is 2.6 and my gtk version is 2.0 Okay, but that wasn't what you were asked. What is the python-gtk version? (I could download the image myself, but that's a big job for where I am). -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] C5 2012 Call for Papers
Sugar would be right on topic. Very nice conference, I've attended a couple of times. Hope to see you there :) Please spread widely. - Bert - The 10th International Conference on Creating, Connecting and Collaborating through Computing (C5 2012) 18-20 January 2012 Playa Vista, CA USA http://www.cm.is.ritsumei.ac.jp/c5-12/ Hosted by the USC Institute for Creative Technologies http://www.ict.usc.edu Computers, networks, and other forms of technology are pervasive in our information-based society. Unfortunately, most users of this technology use it for passive consumption of information and entertainment. To evolve into a true knowledge society it is critical that we transform computer-based human activities to engage users in the active process of creating, connecting, and collaborating together. The C5 conference is for anyone interested in the use of computers as tools to develop and enable user-oriented creation, connection, and collaboration processes. Researchers, developers, educators and users come together at C5 to present new and ongoing work and to discuss future directions for creative computing and multimedia environments. We welcome the submission of theoretical and technical papers, practitioner/experience reports, and papers that bridge the gap between theory and practice or that encourage inter- and cross-disciplinary study. === Keynote Speakers === Helping Everyone Create with Computing Dr. Mark Guzdial Georgia Institute of Technology C2P3: Creating and Controlling Personalisation and Privacy in Pervasive Digital Ecosystems Dr. Judy Kay University of Sydney === Topics === C5 invites submissions of full papers in (but not limited to) the following areas: - Technology-enhanced human-computer and human-human interaction and collaboration - Virtual worlds and immersive environments - Educational environments for classroom, field work and online/distance learning - New technologies for literature, music and the visual arts - Technologies for collaborative and self-empowered learning - Multimedia authoring environments - Gaming/entertainment platforms, virtual characters, and software infrastructure - Social networks and social networking - Novel programming paradigms and languages for implementors - Scripting or visual paradigms and languages for end-users - Creating and maintaining online communities - Tools for creating/managing online services/environments - Distributed and collaborative working - Social and cultural implications of new technologies Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF format via EasyChair at: https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=c512 Submissions must be written in English (the official language of the conference) and must not exceed eight (8) pages. They should use the IEEE 10-point two-column format, templates for which are available at: http://www.computer.org/portal/web/cscps/home === Proceedings === A preliminary version of the proceedings will be distributed during the conference. The formal version of the proceedings will be published by the Conference Publishing Services (CPS) and sent to authors after the conference. For each accepted paper, at least one of the authors needs to attend the conference and deliver the presentation; otherwise the paper will not be included in the formal proceedings. === Dates === Submission of papers: October 7, 2011 Author notification: November 18, 2011 Camera-ready copy: December 16, 2011 Conference:January 18-20, 2012 http://people.ict.usc.edu/~lane/C5/C5-12-CFP.pdf ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] gtk.RadioToolButton active property not recognized
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:51:05AM +0200, laurent bernabe wrote: * in my application, i'm using two gtk.RadioToolButton * the clicked handlers of the two RadioToolButton test the active property of the event source (so, the RadioToolButton itself) * but the SugarOLPC image logs reports me the error 'gtk.RadioToolButton' has no attribute 'active' * however, the PyGTK reference manual says that 'active' is a property of gtk.ToggleToolButton, from which RadioToolButton is inherited and therefore, handlers are not properly executed So, what is my error ? You are using GTK+ version 2.0, according to your mail in another thread. You are using PyGTK version 2.17.0, according to your mail in another thread. The PyGTK 2.24.0 documentation for ToggleToolButton at http://developer.gnome.org/pygtk/stable/class-gtktoggletoolbutton.html has a note to the right of the active property which says This property is available in GTK+ 2.8 and above. The implication is that the property is not available below GTK+ 2.8. Since you have GTK+ version 2.0, the property is expected to be unavailable. But it is surprising that you are using GTK+ version 2.0 ... could you please check this version number? It would be easy for you to misread the output: COLUMNS=120 dpkg --list libgtk\*-dev Here I see: ii libgtk2.0-dev 2.24.3-1~sid1 Development files for the GTK+ library Which means I am using version 2.24.3. The 2.0 in the package name is not a version number. This is an easy mistake to make. Assuming you are using a version of GTK+ of 2.8 or later, I see no explanation for your error. I would need to see the source. Please post a pointer to your git repository, or web page containing the source. By the way, you can obtain matching version documentation for PyGTK on your system by installing the package python-gtk2-doc, and then opening the files on the system rather than on internet. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-devel] It is Python2.6 and GTK2.0
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:56:41AM +0200, laurent bernabe wrote: I forgot to reply to CC (apologizes) Answered in your original mail thread ... I'm hoping that you have the same problem that you reported. ;-} -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Get Books-7
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org writes: Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27365/get_books-7.xo Thanks for this new release. Release notes: Display summary of books bassed in configuration (Daniel Castelo) Don't show link in book description (Daniel Castelo) Cancel previous download image threads (Daniel Castelo) Arrange the text in the description to better fit in the widget space Can I safely infer that Daniel is the new maintainer? godiart is the maintainer. I am collaborating with some fixes. (There is no AUTHORS file, I cannot find the right person to contact.) James Simmons told me that I could use GetBooks with a local OPDS xml file and a set of .ePub. Did anyone already do so? Can anyone point me at some existing (simple) OPDS file so that I can take a stab at this? http://www.feedbooks.com/books/search.atom?query=wilde My goal is to provide a library of ePub readable with GetBooks in a place where there is no internet connection. If you have a school server you could use pathagar. Is a simple book server. I think that this is the repository https://github.com/manuq/pathagar. Manuel Quiñones is improving this book server. You could get more information here http://en.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/ch026_the-pathagar-book-server/ http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Book_Server Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Get Books-7
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org writes: Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27365/get_books-7.xo Thanks for this new release. Release notes: Display summary of books bassed in configuration (Daniel Castelo) Don't show link in book description (Daniel Castelo) Cancel previous download image threads (Daniel Castelo) Arrange the text in the description to better fit in the widget space Can I safely infer that Daniel is the new maintainer? I am maintaining it, (Shh, i have not convinced Daniel, yet ;) ) (There is no AUTHORS file, I cannot find the right person to contact.) James Simmons told me that I could use GetBooks with a local OPDS xml file and a set of .ePub. There are old code in the activity to read a catalog.xml file in a pendrive. (see devicemanager.py) I thing you can create this file with Calibre but I have not tested it, and I could not find documentation. Anyway, may be is better deploy one local book server http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Book_Server Gonzalo Did anyone already do so? Can anyone point me at some existing (simple) OPDS file so that I can take a stab at this? My goal is to provide a library of ePub readable with GetBooks in a place where there is no internet connection. Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] Search in Favourites View is disabled
I have code to enable using alpha in the icons, and I think a good solution can be change the alpha of the icons not selected in the search to may be 20 or 30% It's not difficult to do. Is more difficult to have a agreement about the feature. Gonzalo On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org writes: It would be useful both in the list view and in the Home circle view -- if the search field is to become usable one day (which I hope). Of course. Anyone willing to take action on this? My proposal is to distinguish sticky activities from favorite activities: the former are the one deployments and teachers want always in the Home view, the latter are the ones the children want for some reason, for some time. Sounds interesting, but I really don't know if it would be interesting to the design team. If there's now two reasons for an activity to be present, this makes it more complex for the learner. I don't have a strong opinion either way. Me neither. I was more pointing something that sounded conceptually relevant, whether it is ergonomically relevant is yet another question, that's right. -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] Search in Favourites View is disabled
Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org writes: I have code to enable using alpha in the icons, and I think a good solution can be change the alpha of the icons not selected in the search to may be 20 or 30% Neat. It's not difficult to do. Is more difficult to have a agreement about the feature. 100% agreed :) -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Browse activity
According to git, nobody is working in Browse master. Who is the actual maintainer? Any plans? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] gtk.RadioToolButton active property not recognized
Ok, here the result : Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++---= un libgtksourceview2.0-dev none (no description available) 2011/5/18 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:51:05AM +0200, laurent bernabe wrote: * in my application, i'm using two gtk.RadioToolButton * the clicked handlers of the two RadioToolButton test the active property of the event source (so, the RadioToolButton itself) * but the SugarOLPC image logs reports me the error 'gtk.RadioToolButton' has no attribute 'active' * however, the PyGTK reference manual says that 'active' is a property of gtk.ToggleToolButton, from which RadioToolButton is inherited and therefore, handlers are not properly executed So, what is my error ? You are using GTK+ version 2.0, according to your mail in another thread. You are using PyGTK version 2.17.0, according to your mail in another thread. The PyGTK 2.24.0 documentation for ToggleToolButton at http://developer.gnome.org/pygtk/stable/class-gtktoggletoolbutton.html has a note to the right of the active property which says This property is available in GTK+ 2.8 and above. The implication is that the property is not available below GTK+ 2.8. Since you have GTK+ version 2.0, the property is expected to be unavailable. But it is surprising that you are using GTK+ version 2.0 ... could you please check this version number? It would be easy for you to misread the output: COLUMNS=120 dpkg --list libgtk\*-dev Here I see: ii libgtk2.0-dev 2.24.3-1~sid1 Development files for the GTK+ library Which means I am using version 2.24.3. The 2.0 in the package name is not a version number. This is an easy mistake to make. Assuming you are using a version of GTK+ of 2.8 or later, I see no explanation for your error. I would need to see the source. Please post a pointer to your git repository, or web page containing the source. By the way, you can obtain matching version documentation for PyGTK on your system by installing the package python-gtk2-doc, and then opening the files on the system rather than on internet. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
I would be interested in continuing development of the Browse activity. We could connect with Mozilla's program to teach the web to kids, called Hackasaurus ( http://hackasaurus.org ). I have a quick hack to add their X-Ray Goggles, a kid-friendly HTML inspector, to the Edit toolbar: http://mapadelsur.blogspot.com/2011/03/hackasaurus-xo.html Or maybe that's a separate activity idea. I suppose most people won't need that in their browser. Regards, Nick Doiron On Wed, May 18, 2011 9:46 am, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: According to git, nobody is working in Browse master. Who is the actual maintainer? Any plans? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
I am more interested in trying to know who is interested in work in the 155 tickets open against Browse.([1] and [2]) You know, the dirty work ;) Or a least, receive patches and do releases. If nobody is doing it, we must found a new maintainer, Browse is the most used activity, and have more open tickets than any other activity. Gonzalo [1] http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=browse-activityorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestone [2] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=Browseorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=prioritycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestone On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Nicholas Doiron ndoi...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote: I would be interested in continuing development of the Browse activity. We could connect with Mozilla's program to teach the web to kids, called Hackasaurus ( http://hackasaurus.org ). I have a quick hack to add their X-Ray Goggles, a kid-friendly HTML inspector, to the Edit toolbar: http://mapadelsur.blogspot.com/2011/03/hackasaurus-xo.html Or maybe that's a separate activity idea. I suppose most people won't need that in their browser. Regards, Nick Doiron On Wed, May 18, 2011 9:46 am, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: According to git, nobody is working in Browse master. Who is the actual maintainer? Any plans? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] gtk.RadioToolButton active property not recognized
Oups ! Forgotten CC reply 2011/5/18 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com Oh, i've forgotten - i have not put source online yet : going to use git as soon as possible (newbie here again) - going to install pygtk2-doc package on my sugar : is the best way to consult it is a text editor such as nano ? Regards 2011/5/18 laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.com Ok, here the result : Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++---= un libgtksourceview2.0-dev none (no description available) 2011/5/18 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:51:05AM +0200, laurent bernabe wrote: * in my application, i'm using two gtk.RadioToolButton * the clicked handlers of the two RadioToolButton test the active property of the event source (so, the RadioToolButton itself) * but the SugarOLPC image logs reports me the error 'gtk.RadioToolButton' has no attribute 'active' * however, the PyGTK reference manual says that 'active' is a property of gtk.ToggleToolButton, from which RadioToolButton is inherited and therefore, handlers are not properly executed So, what is my error ? You are using GTK+ version 2.0, according to your mail in another thread. You are using PyGTK version 2.17.0, according to your mail in another thread. The PyGTK 2.24.0 documentation for ToggleToolButton at http://developer.gnome.org/pygtk/stable/class-gtktoggletoolbutton.html has a note to the right of the active property which says This property is available in GTK+ 2.8 and above. The implication is that the property is not available below GTK+ 2.8. Since you have GTK+ version 2.0, the property is expected to be unavailable. But it is surprising that you are using GTK+ version 2.0 ... could you please check this version number? It would be easy for you to misread the output: COLUMNS=120 dpkg --list libgtk\*-dev Here I see: ii libgtk2.0-dev 2.24.3-1~sid1 Development files for the GTK+ library Which means I am using version 2.24.3. The 2.0 in the package name is not a version number. This is an easy mistake to make. Assuming you are using a version of GTK+ of 2.8 or later, I see no explanation for your error. I would need to see the source. Please post a pointer to your git repository, or web page containing the source. By the way, you can obtain matching version documentation for PyGTK on your system by installing the package python-gtk2-doc, and then opening the files on the system rather than on internet. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Get Books-7
The Rural Design Collective made a system for creating an offline catalog which is described here: http://en.flossmanuals.net/e-book-enlightenment/ch027_gen-collection-interface-gci/ Rebecca Malamud or Scotty Auble may be able to give you some guidance on how to set this up. It looks like you need to create a USB drive with the label LIB. If GetBooks sees this mounted on /media it will try and find the OPDS file so you can browse the collection on the drive and copy entries to the Journal. I haven't tried this myself, but that's how it is described in the chapter, which Rebecca contributed. James Simmons On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org writes: Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/27365/get_books-7.xo Thanks for this new release. Release notes: Display summary of books bassed in configuration (Daniel Castelo) Don't show link in book description (Daniel Castelo) Cancel previous download image threads (Daniel Castelo) Arrange the text in the description to better fit in the widget space Can I safely infer that Daniel is the new maintainer? I am maintaining it, (Shh, i have not convinced Daniel, yet ;) ) (There is no AUTHORS file, I cannot find the right person to contact.) James Simmons told me that I could use GetBooks with a local OPDS xml file and a set of .ePub. There are old code in the activity to read a catalog.xml file in a pendrive. (see devicemanager.py) I thing you can create this file with Calibre but I have not tested it, and I could not find documentation. Anyway, may be is better deploy one local book server http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Book_Server Gonzalo Did anyone already do so? Can anyone point me at some existing (simple) OPDS file so that I can take a stab at this? My goal is to provide a library of ePub readable with GetBooks in a place where there is no internet connection. Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:12, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: I am more interested in trying to know who is interested in work in the 155 tickets open against Browse.([1] and [2]) You know, the dirty work ;) Yep, I'll 'unconditionally bow' / 'buy a beer' / 'you get the idea' to anyone who fixes them ;-) I was at a gathering of kids and teachers identified as sugar power users in Caacupe, Paraguay yesterday. Almost all of them said they used Browse. So the bugs are a real pain :/ Or a least, receive patches and do releases. If nobody is doing it, we must found a new maintainer, Browse is the most used activity, and have more open tickets than any other activity. Gonzalo [1] http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=browse-activityorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestone [2] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=Browseorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=prioritycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestone On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Nicholas Doiron ndoi...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote: I would be interested in continuing development of the Browse activity. We could connect with Mozilla's program to teach the web to kids, called Hackasaurus ( http://hackasaurus.org ). I have a quick hack to add their X-Ray Goggles, a kid-friendly HTML inspector, to the Edit toolbar: http://mapadelsur.blogspot.com/2011/03/hackasaurus-xo.html Or maybe that's a separate activity idea. I suppose most people won't need that in their browser. Regards, Nick Doiron On Wed, May 18, 2011 9:46 am, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: According to git, nobody is working in Browse master. Who is the actual maintainer? Any plans? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Anish | an...@sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
Yes, this is particularly crucial as there is no Browse in 0.92 Sugar. (I gather it is currently inoperable.) Thus there is no easy way of downloading Activities from the web. (I download them on another computer, copy to a USB drive, then drag to the Journal on the first computer.) Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Gonzalo Odiard To: Nicholas Doiron Cc: Sugar-dev Devel Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity I am more interested in trying to know who is interested in work in the 155 tickets open against Browse.([1] and [2]) You know, the dirty work ;) Or a least, receive patches and do releases. If nobody is doing it, we must found a new maintainer, Browse is the most used activity, and have more open tickets than any other activity. Gonzalo [1] http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=browse-activityorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestone [2] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=Browseorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=prioritycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestone On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Nicholas Doiron ndoi...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: I would be interested in continuing development of the Browse activity. We could connect with Mozilla's program to teach the web to kids, called Hackasaurus ( http://hackasaurus.org ). I have a quick hack to add their X-Ray Goggles, a kid-friendly HTML inspector, to the Edit toolbar: http://mapadelsur.blogspot.com/2011/03/hackasaurus-xo.html Or maybe that's a separate activity idea. I suppose most people won't need that in their browser. Regards, Nick Doiron On Wed, May 18, 2011 9:46 am, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: According to git, nobody is working in Browse master. Who is the actual maintainer? Any plans? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Yes, this is particularly crucial as there is no Browse in 0.92 Sugar. (I gather it is currently inoperable.) Thus there is no easy way of downloading Activities from the web. (I download them on another computer, copy to a USB drive, then drag to the Journal on the first computer.) Yes, it needs to be ported to the changes for xulrunner2 (firefox 4) but we now ship Surf instead for the interim at least. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Yes, this is particularly crucial as there is no Browse in 0.92 Sugar. (I gather it is currently inoperable.) Thus there is no easy way of downloading Activities from the web. (I download them on another computer, copy to a USB drive, then drag to the Journal on the first computer.) Yes, it needs to be ported to the changes for xulrunner2 (firefox 4) but we now ship Surf instead for the interim at least. Yes? It's decided? Surf can replace Browse or we are replacing a mountain of bugs by another different mountain? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
Art Hunkins wrote: Yes, this is particularly crucial as there is no Browse in 0.92 Sugar. (I gather it is currently inoperable.) surf-115 is the browser used in f15 Soas atm (Sugar 0.92.1) It is in the repository. It also downloads as a non-favorite from yum install surf or yum install @sugar-desktop The sub-menus work here for me. Thus there is no easy way of downloading Activities from the web. (I download them on another computer, copy to a USB drive, then drag to the Journal on the first computer.) Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Gonzalo Odiard To: Nicholas Doiron Cc: Sugar-dev Devel Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity I am more interested in trying to know who is interested in work in the 155 tickets open against Browse.([1] and [2]) You know, the dirty work ;) Or a least, receive patches and do releases. If nobody is doing it, we must found a new maintainer, Browse is the most used activity, and have more open tickets than any other activity. Gonzalo [1] http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=browse-activityorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestone [2] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=Browseorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=prioritycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=milestone On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Nicholas Doiron ndoi...@andrew.cmu.edu wrote: I would be interested in continuing development of the Browse activity. We could connect with Mozilla's program to teach the web to kids, called Hackasaurus ( http://hackasaurus.org ). I have a quick hack to add their X-Ray Goggles, a kid-friendly HTML inspector, to the Edit toolbar: http://mapadelsur.blogspot.com/2011/03/hackasaurus-xo.html Or maybe that's a separate activity idea. I suppose most people won't need that in their browser. Regards, Nick Doiron On Wed, May 18, 2011 9:46 am, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: According to git, nobody is working in Browse master. Who is the actual maintainer? Any plans? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
No its not decided. I decided to use it for SoaS for SoaSv5 so we could have some form of working browser. Peter Thanks. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal
I don't want to coop the current thread about search, but I have one concrete proposal (for which I volunteer to write a patch if we have consensus) and one long-standing feature request that we should dust off. (1) I propose that whenever you go to the Home View, you end up in the standard view. The only way to get to the list view would be by selecting it from the standard view. I'd even go so far as to suggest that if you navigate away, you would return to the standard view. This simple change would take some pressure off the need to distinguish the list view from the Journal and make it really just for organizing favorites and nothing else, which keeps it simple. (Even an experience Sugar user such as myself gets confused sometimes when I end up in the list view... I repeatedly hit the home view button and type F3 to no effect and think there must be something broken.) (2) Multiple groups beyond just the binary favorites/not favorites selection. Lots of teacher (and kid) feedback about wanting multiple home view collections. This is more invasive, but if we really think about list view more narrowly, then adding this would be seemingly doable from the UI perspective. (One home view could be *all*, meaning we could even eliminate the need to launch activities from the list view). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal
Plus one to having home view always show favourites not list view, we get confused with list versus journal view too. Second part also looks interesting. Will follow the discussion. Tabitha On May 19, 2011 3:22 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to coop the current thread about search, but I have one concrete proposal (for which I volunteer to write a patch if we have consensus) and one long-standing feature request that we should dust off. (1) I propose that whenever you go to the Home View, you end up in the standard view. The only way to get to the list view would be by selecting it from the standard view. I'd even go so far as to suggest that if you navigate away, you would return to the standard view. This simple change would take some pressure off the need to distinguish the list view from the Journal and make it really just for organizing favorites and nothing else, which keeps it simple. (Even an experience Sugar user such as myself gets confused sometimes when I end up in the list view... I repeatedly hit the home view button and type F3 to no effect and think there must be something broken.) (2) Multiple groups beyond just the binary favorites/not favorites selection. Lots of teacher (and kid) feedback about wanting multiple home view collections. This is more invasive, but if we really think about list view more narrowly, then adding this would be seemingly doable from the UI perspective. (One home view could be *all*, meaning we could even eliminate the need to launch activities from the list view). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal
On 18.05.2011, at 17:22, Walter Bender wrote: I don't want to coop the current thread about search, but I have one concrete proposal (for which I volunteer to write a patch if we have consensus) and one long-standing feature request that we should dust off. (1) I propose that whenever you go to the Home View, you end up in the standard view. The only way to get to the list view would be by selecting it from the standard view. I'd even go so far as to suggest that if you navigate away, you would return to the standard view. +0.5 This simple change would take some pressure off the need to distinguish the list view from the Journal and make it really just for organizing favorites and nothing else, which keeps it simple. (Even an experience Sugar user such as myself gets confused sometimes when I end up in the list view... I repeatedly hit the home view button and type F3 to no effect and think there must be something broken.) I proposed (but failed to provide a patch) to make F3 in the list view go to the standard view. - Bert - (2) Multiple groups beyond just the binary favorites/not favorites selection. Lots of teacher (and kid) feedback about wanting multiple home view collections. This is more invasive, but if we really think about list view more narrowly, then adding this would be seemingly doable from the UI perspective. (One home view could be *all*, meaning we could even eliminate the need to launch activities from the list view). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: I don't want to coop the current thread about search, but I have one concrete proposal (for which I volunteer to write a patch if we have consensus) and one long-standing feature request that we should dust off. (1) I propose that whenever you go to the Home View, you end up in the standard view. The only way to get to the list view would be by selecting it from the standard view. I'd even go so far as to suggest that if you navigate away, you would return to the standard view. This simple change would take some pressure off the need to distinguish the list view from the Journal and make it really just for organizing favorites and nothing else, which keeps it simple. (Even an experience Sugar user such as myself gets confused sometimes when I end up in the list view... I repeatedly hit the home view button and type F3 to no effect and think there must be something broken.) +1 (2) Multiple groups beyond just the binary favorites/not favorites selection. Lots of teacher (and kid) feedback about wanting multiple home view collections. This is more invasive, but if we really think about list view more narrowly, then adding this would be seemingly doable from the UI perspective. (One home view could be *all*, meaning we could even eliminate the need to launch activities from the list view). May be a good idea for 0.94, trying to design a good holistic design for tags, including the tags in the Journal ideas [1] Gonzalo [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Journal_NewUI ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
On 18 May 2011 16:00, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Yes, this is particularly crucial as there is no Browse in 0.92 Sugar. (I gather it is currently inoperable.) Thus there is no easy way of downloading Activities from the web. (I download them on another computer, copy to a USB drive, then drag to the Journal on the first computer.) Yes, it needs to be ported to the changes for xulrunner2 (firefox 4) but we now ship Surf instead for the interim at least. Yes? It's decided? Surf can replace Browse or we are replacing a mountain of bugs by another different mountain? Right now Surf is incomplete. I haven't had any time to work on either fixing Browse bugs or finishing Surf. I do think the future is with webkit, not xulrunner2. Especially since Mozilla care little about embedding. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse activity
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 May 2011 16:00, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Art Hunkins abhun...@uncg.edu wrote: Yes, this is particularly crucial as there is no Browse in 0.92 Sugar. (I gather it is currently inoperable.) Thus there is no easy way of downloading Activities from the web. (I download them on another computer, copy to a USB drive, then drag to the Journal on the first computer.) Yes, it needs to be ported to the changes for xulrunner2 (firefox 4) but we now ship Surf instead for the interim at least. Yes? It's decided? Surf can replace Browse or we are replacing a mountain of bugs by another different mountain? Right now Surf is incomplete. I haven't had any time to work on either fixing Browse bugs or finishing Surf. I do think the future is with webkit, not xulrunner2. Especially since Mozilla care little about embedding. For what I understand from Lucian and others with more technical knowledge of browse, we should be aiming to do maintain releases fixing critical bugs of browse and shifting the development efforts to surf. But the question remains as who is going to make the releases and all the bug fixing. Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Clock patches
Thanks Gonzalo, I've been watching the tickets, but just a quick ACK (so you don't think I'm ignoring you). Will try make some releases of the activities I maintain soonish (to pick up new translations as well). -G On 17 May 2011, at 14:57, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hi Gary, Attached I send you patches from Manuel Quiñones to implement the new toolbars in Clock and resolve a issue where clock is not displayed at start (Tickets [1], [2] and [3]) I have reviewed and tested the patches. Gonzalo [1] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10853 [2] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2719 [3] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2196 0001-Show-clock-at-start-SL-2196-SL-2719-OLPC-10853.patch0002-Implement-new-toolbars-OLPC-10862.patch0003-Make-clock.py-pep8-complaint.patch ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Clock patches
Thanks Gary. Gonzalo On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.comwrote: Thanks Gonzalo, I've been watching the tickets, but just a quick ACK (so you don't think I'm ignoring you). Will try make some releases of the activities I maintain soonish (to pick up new translations as well). -G On 17 May 2011, at 14:57, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Hi Gary, Attached I send you patches from Manuel Quiñones to implement the new toolbars in Clock and resolve a issue where clock is not displayed at start (Tickets [1], [2] and [3]) I have reviewed and tested the patches. Gonzalo [1] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10853 [2] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2719 [3] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2196 0001-Show-clock-at-start-SL-2196-SL-2719-OLPC-10853.patch0002-Implement-new-toolbars-OLPC-10862.patch0003-Make-clock.py-pep8-complaint.patch ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] copy files to/from server
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote: I still didn't make up my mind about which technical approach should I take in order to get this working, but I guess people already started sharing some ideas. And I would appreciate more ideas and discussion before I get to that point. ok - some notes from me on this topic For file management, I very strongly recommend using WebDAV. It is a bit less efficient than real network file system protocols, but the benefits are many: - more flexibilty - closer to you and me in the stack - you can easily find WebDAV toolkits in HLLs that allow you to expose your data as files and directories over WebDAV, as well as client implementations - it deals reasonably gracefully with intermittent connectivity (SMB/CIFS, NFS, etc get you nasty system freezes if the server disappears) - wide range of (fairly well behaved) client and server implementations - a good test suite for the server side - On the XS side... Moodle has a WebDAV implementation and Apache has one too. From the department of optimizations to keep in mind early (but implement late...) -- if ds-backup is working correctly, you'll have most of the content already on the XS. Might be a nice optimisation to skip transferring it -- if you have a msg exchange *before* the WebDAV (or other) file transfer. The very basic requirement is: each children must have its private cloud volume, where they can drop their files in the same way they interact with physical external storage devices. Why would I drop the file there? In my understanding, what you want to do with it is *publish* it. On top of that we can do a lot of things that might be very useful for teachers daily in the classrooms. Yeah - *publish it to my classroom group* -- via Moodle. I've worked for ~10 years with teachers and that's what they want to do 99.9% of the time -- publish it to the group. If we do that nicely, we're golden. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal
Your first suggestion is a particularly good one. +1 Art Hunkins - Original Message - From: Walter Bender To: Bastien ; Gonzalo Odiard ; sugar-devel ; OLPC Australia list ; James Cameron ; Gary C Martin Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal I don't want to coop the current thread about search, but I have one concrete proposal (for which I volunteer to write a patch if we have consensus) and one long-standing feature request that we should dust off. (1) I propose that whenever you go to the Home View, you end up in the standard view. The only way to get to the list view would be by selecting it from the standard view. I'd even go so far as to suggest that if you navigate away, you would return to the standard view. This simple change would take some pressure off the need to distinguish the list view from the Journal and make it really just for organizing favorites and nothing else, which keeps it simple. (Even an experience Sugar user such as myself gets confused sometimes when I end up in the list view... I repeatedly hit the home view button and type F3 to no effect and think there must be something broken.) (2) Multiple groups beyond just the binary favorites/not favorites selection. Lots of teacher (and kid) feedback about wanting multiple home view collections. This is more invasive, but if we really think about list view more narrowly, then adding this would be seemingly doable from the UI perspective. (One home view could be *all*, meaning we could even eliminate the need to launch activities from the list view). -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] Search in Favourites View is disabled
Blue sky suggestion: When hovering over second-from-right icon in top bar of Home View, open a palette with TWO OR MORE favorites-list icons. Clicking on one of these favorites-list icons brings up a set of activity-icons (which have been associated with *that* favorites list). Clicking on a different one of those favorites-list icons brings up a DIFFERENT set of activity-icons (which have been associated with *that* list). Thus you could have one set of favorites for Science_curriculum; a second set of favorites for Languages_curriculum; etc., etc. mikus ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] gtk.RadioToolButton active property not recognized
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 04:25:29PM +0200, laurent bernabe wrote:
+ going to install pygtk2-doc package on my sugar : is the best way to
consult it is a text editor such as nano ?
No.
On a Debian derived system, the package name is python-gtk2-doc, and
when it is installed the files can be listed with
dpkg --listfiles python-gtk2-doc
There are example Python source files as well as reference and tutorial
in HTML format. To open the HTML documentation in a way that makes it
easiest to use, start your web browser and navigate to the page
file:///usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pygtk/index.html
For example
firefox file:///usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pygtk/index.html
Regarding the version of GTK+ the advice I gave you was wrong ... I was
asleep. There was no reason for the -dev package to be present. Try
this:
dpkg-query -W -f='${Package} ${Version}\n' libgtk2.0\*
Another way to find the version is with a Python program:
print gtk.gtk_version
(2, 24, 3)
And if you are writing code that depends on a particular version, you
can call check_version
gtk.check_version(2, 8, 0)
gtk.check_version(0, 0, 0)
'Gtk+ version too new (major mismatch)'
gtk.check_version(44,44,44)
'Gtk+ version too old (major mismatch)'
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal
On 19 May 2011 01:22, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I don't want to coop the current thread about search, but I have one concrete proposal (for which I volunteer to write a patch if we have consensus) and one long-standing feature request that we should dust off. (1) I propose that whenever you go to the Home View, you end up in the standard view. The only way to get to the list view would be by selecting it from the standard view. I'd even go so far as to suggest that if you navigate away, you would return to the standard view. This simple change would take some pressure off the need to distinguish the list view from the Journal and make it really just for organizing favorites and nothing else, which keeps it simple. (Even an experience Sugar user such as myself gets confused sometimes when I end up in the list view... I repeatedly hit the home view button and type F3 to no effect and think there must be something broken.) +1. I sometimes have the same problem. (2) Multiple groups beyond just the binary favorites/not favorites selection. Lots of teacher (and kid) feedback about wanting multiple home view collections. This is more invasive, but if we really think about list view more narrowly, then adding this would be seemingly doable from the UI perspective. (One home view could be *all*, meaning we could even eliminate the need to launch activities from the list view). +1 in principle. I'm concerned that we're moving towards an old-fashioned 'folder' type organisational structure. The devil's in the implementation. Sridhar ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] gtk.RadioToolButton active property not recognized
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:51:05AM +0200, laurent bernabe wrote: * in my application, i'm using two gtk.RadioToolButton Looking at your source code, and simplifying it for discussion, you do this: def add(): foo = gtk.RadioToolButton(None, gtk.STOCK_MEDIA_RECORD) foo.set_active(True) foo.connect(clicked, bar) def bar(foo): if foo.get_active(): ... * the clicked handlers of the two RadioToolButton test the active property of the event source (so, the RadioToolButton itself) The clicked signal name is not in RadioToolButton widget class but in ancestor widget class ToolButton. I don't think that is the problem, but I mention it for clarity. For simplicity one might use the toggled signal of the less distant ancestor class ToggleToolButton. I suggest you try using toggled ... which would require a different signal function. * but the SugarOLPC image logs reports me the error 'gtk.RadioToolButton' has no attribute 'active' It is as if the active attribute has been removed by the initialiser of the higher class. * however, the PyGTK reference manual says that 'active' is a property of gtk.ToggleToolButton, from which RadioToolButton is inherited and therefore, handlers are not properly executed Yes, and this is only available in GTK+ 2.8 and above. I'm sure you'll eventually work out what version you are using. If it still does not work, then it sounds like a PyGTK or GTK+ bug that you might raise with those projects ... after checking to see if it is fixed in the latest versions. Otherwise, try using toggled and see if it works. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] another Favorites View proposal
(One home view could be *all*, meaning we could even eliminate the need to launch activities from the list view) I personally prefer the list view to remain -- it provides a convenient place where to erase installed Activities that one no longer wants. [I think Activities should NOT be removable-from-storage through Home View Ring, etc.] Further, I myself have over 100 Activities installed on my XO (their code physically resides on an SD card). To show *all* of them in one screen makes their icons very small. But list view, since it is scrollable, provides the visual room to list What all *is* there? (both label and decent-sized icon) for the person looking at that XO. mikus ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Patch for Jukebox: New toolbar
Hello, Here is a patch to use the new toolbar for the Jukebox activity. A few notes about the changes below: You will notice that I renamed the ControlToolbar class to just Control, that's because it doesn't inherit anymore from gtk.Toolbar, now the toolbar is a property of that class, that can be the old one or the new one. I moved the fullscreen button to a View subtoolbar for consistency with other activities. Regards, -- .. manuq .. 0001-New-toolbar.patch Description: Binary data ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch for Jukebox: New toolbar
Hi Manu. 2011/5/18 manuel quiñones manuel.por@gmail.com Hello, Here is a patch to use the new toolbar for the Jukebox activity. A few notes about the changes below: You will notice that I renamed the ControlToolbar class to just Control, that's because it doesn't inherit anymore from gtk.Toolbar, now the toolbar is a property of that class, that can be the old one or the new one. I moved the fullscreen button to a View subtoolbar for consistency with other activities. Regards, I think that Sebastian Silva (on cc) has a merge request to fix this issue also. http://git.sugarlabs.org/jukebox/mainline/merge_requests/2 Would be nice if you two work with kushal to have this merged into mainline and packaged into a new release. Thanks for your patch, gonzalo has a list of activities that need a new toolbar if you want to work on those :). http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedsummary=~has+old+toolbarcol=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=typecol=prioritycol=milestonecol=componentorder=priority -- .. manuq .. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
