Re: [Sugar-devel] [SPAM?]: Re: [PATCH sugar-toolkit] Remove incomplete MANIFEST support

2011-07-07 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 07/07/2011 03:32 AM, James Cameron wrote:

On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:45:18AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:

I did test installing a bundle with no MANIFEST file on 0.84.x
(10.1.3) and I did get warnings about the missing MANIFEST but that's
it. Installed fine and runs fine. AFAIK 802 is 0.84 based as well, so
I presume this should work equally well.


No, 802 (8.2.1) is based on an earlier version of Sugar.



Which is?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SPAM?]: Re: [PATCH sugar-toolkit] Remove incomplete MANIFEST support

2011-07-07 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On 07.07.2011, at 10:16, Simon Schampijer wrote:

 On 07/07/2011 03:32 AM, James Cameron wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:45:18AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 I did test installing a bundle with no MANIFEST file on 0.84.x
 (10.1.3) and I did get warnings about the missing MANIFEST but that's
 it. Installed fine and runs fine. AFAIK 802 is 0.84 based as well, so
 I presume this should work equally well.
 
 No, 802 (8.2.1) is based on an earlier version of Sugar.
 
 
 Which is?

0.82

(you gotta love all the eight-two's)

- Bert -


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SPAM?]: Re: [PATCH sugar-toolkit] Remove incomplete MANIFEST support

2011-07-07 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 07/07/2011 10:20 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:


On 07.07.2011, at 10:16, Simon Schampijer wrote:


On 07/07/2011 03:32 AM, James Cameron wrote:

On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:45:18AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:

I did test installing a bundle with no MANIFEST file on 0.84.x
(10.1.3) and I did get warnings about the missing MANIFEST but that's
it. Installed fine and runs fine. AFAIK 802 is 0.84 based as well, so
I presume this should work equally well.


No, 802 (8.2.1) is based on an earlier version of Sugar.



Which is?


0.82

(you gotta love all the eight-two's)

- Bert -


Ok, I guess anyone with an 802 can then test that to see if it breaks or 
not.


Regards,
   Simon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SPAM?]: Re: [PATCH sugar-toolkit] Remove incomplete MANIFEST support

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 July 2011 09:24, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
 Ok, I guess anyone with an 802 can then test that to see if it breaks or
 not.

It won't break, it will cause a minor slowdown while starting
activities while sugar logs that loads of files are missing from the
manifest.

But 0.82 is old now, its time to move on. This is only a minor
slowdown and will only affect the case when someone is running a very
old system with a very new activity. And the effect isn't a loss of
compatibility, only a minor slowdown.

Daniel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SPAM?]: Re: [PATCH sugar-toolkit] Remove incomplete MANIFEST support

2011-07-07 Thread Rafael Ortiz
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On 7 July 2011 09:24, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
  Ok, I guess anyone with an 802 can then test that to see if it breaks or
  not.

 It won't break, it will cause a minor slowdown while starting
 activities while sugar logs that loads of files are missing from the
 manifest.

 But 0.82 is old now, its time to move on. This is only a minor
 slowdown and will only affect the case when someone is running a very
 old system with a very new activity. And the effect isn't a loss of
 compatibility, only a minor slowdown.


Agree, MANIFEST support should be removed (as for all the reasons above),
from the activities point of view the only concern is the lack of
compatibility, having that cleared out, this should be pushed.

 Daniel
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[Sugar-devel] HW test in background?

2011-07-07 Thread Esteban Bordón
Hi all,

I want to know if is possible to run some hardware diagnostics (like ofw-hw
test [1]) on background when user is working on the laptop.
My idea is logging the diagnostics and send it to a db for detect bugs
early.

XO self test is logging results in any place?

1 - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Self_Test

Cheers,
Esteban.
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[Sugar-devel] Planned network outage for all services

2011-07-07 Thread Bernie Innocenti
We're testing a new BGP router at the colo which hosts all of the FSF
Internet infrastructure and most of Sugar Labs.

The outage is projected to last only a few minutes, but it's hard to
predict how long it will take for the BGP session to resume.

-- 
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Sugar Labs Infrastructure Team
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Infrastructure_Team


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[Sugar-devel] [PATCH] [DESIGN] Use a Sugar themed hand for the touchpad icon

2011-07-07 Thread Frederick Grose
This icon is only used the early XO-1 with the original, 3-section,
dual-mode touchpads.

commit 5980919b540855c0f45b9e7eb53634ed9bf9de67
Author: Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com
Date:   Thu Jul 7 17:32:25 2011 -0400

    Use Sugar themed hand for touchpad icon.

    Update icon with vectorized Sugar cursor hand.
    Round outer corners on touchpad rectangle.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar 0/2] Escape user data and translations in markup

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 2 July 2011 20:55, Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com wrote:
 It does make sense, but it would be an incompatible API change.
 Activities that don't use markup would need to handle the escaping for
 Sugar = 0.92 and must not escape the text for Sugar 0.94+. Similarly,
 activities that do use markup would need to pass *_text for = 0.92 and
 *_markup for 0.94+.

 Since we have no (other) API changes in master currently I wonder
 whether this is something better done in the GTK3 port.

Thats a good idea. So yes, for now your patch looks good to me.
Perhaps you could add a code comment reminding us to fix(break) this
API in future?

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] [PATCH RFC sugar] Wireless network Frame device: add suport for disabling wireless devices

2011-07-07 Thread Frederick Grose
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com wrote:
 This duplicates the existing functionality in the Control Panel for more
 convenient access. Disabling wifi devices can save power, thereby increasing
 battery life.

 Signed-off-by: Sascha Silbe si...@activitycentral.com
 ---
{...}

 We could also do with a better icon. Maybe something like the circles
 from emblem-outofrange combined with the arrow from emblem-charging,
 striking out the arrow depending on the current action (disable or enable
 wifi)?

Two potential icons for this purpose follow:

(Adapted from the Fedora HighContrast network-wireless.svg)

Enabling coloring of the icon would help to indicate the locality of the action.

I'm uncertain if the background handling is optimal for the black
control palette.

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[Sugar-devel] Turn your frequency generator into a super powerful mosquito repeller

2011-07-07 Thread Sean Linton
Has anyone looked into using the free from malaria activity to include a
tone generator to use the XO as a mosquito repellent?

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/mosquito.htm
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Turn your frequency generator into a super powerful mosquito repeller

2011-07-07 Thread James Cameron
The speakers don't work very well at the frequency range specified by
that article for mosquito repelling; 45 Hz to 67 Hz.

The article fails to mention how much sound is needed; e.g. in dBm.  It
gives a subjective measure only.

Other articles on the site mention secrets of ancient geometry and
crystal harmonizers.  This really doesn't impress me.  Is there any
evidence base for repelling mosquitos using low frequency sound?  Is
there any evidence that enough of the population of mosquitos is
repelled?  All it takes is for one strain to not be repelled and it will
breed up.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Turn your frequency generator into a super powerful mosquito repeller

2011-07-07 Thread Chris Leonard
The article probably also fails to mention that peer-reviewed scientific
tests of this concept prove it to be useless.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/290

cjl

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:34 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 The speakers don't work very well at the frequency range specified by
 that article for mosquito repelling; 45 Hz to 67 Hz.

 The article fails to mention how much sound is needed; e.g. in dBm.  It
 gives a subjective measure only.

 Other articles on the site mention secrets of ancient geometry and
 crystal harmonizers.  This really doesn't impress me.  Is there any
 evidence base for repelling mosquitos using low frequency sound?  Is
 there any evidence that enough of the population of mosquitos is
 repelled?  All it takes is for one strain to not be repelled and it will
 breed up.

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