Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Words-18

2012-07-12 Thread Rafael Ortiz
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Sugar Labs Activities <
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>
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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Words-18

2012-07-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
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Sugar Platform:
0.96 - 0.96

Download Now:
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Re: [Sugar-devel] About the build out-of-source-directory patches

2012-07-12 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:39:11AM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> this is a follow up of the development meeting. Sascha had some
> question about my build out-of-source directory patches.
> 
> >IIRC, we're a) missing some explanation of the overall picture (what do we 
> >want to solve, how do we solve it in sugar, why do we solve it this way, 
> >what other >changes are needed?) and b) previous review comments were 
> >applied only partially
> 
> a)
> My own need is that by building out-of-source directory I can speed up
> sugar-build a lot because I don't need to pull the sources every time.
> I can clean build and install and the tree is fully clean.
> But it's often just a developer preference to build stuff that way.
> Build out-of-source directory is a very common convention in auto*
> projects, and fully supported by most of them, I never had issue
> getting patches accepted to fix it.
> I really see no reason sugar should not support it. Especially because
> it almost completely supports it already (otherwise you couldn't
> distcheck), it's just the autogen.sh bits which are broken. It's a bug
> fix, not a new feature.

Agreed, out of tree building is very useful feature, and there seems
no reason not to support it.  Also, I'm on the end of a slow network
connection, so I like the idea of not having to pull the sources every
time.

> No other changes will be necessary.
> b) Can you elaborate please?

If there was some way in which my review failed, please let me know.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-artwork] Zoom icons: Removing grey fill color

2012-07-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Maybe Gary or Manuq can look at this issue?

Gonzalo
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[Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-artwork] Zoom icons: Removing grey fill color

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Francis
I'm developing a graph plotting activity, and when I tried to use the zoom 
icons, I saw an ugly difference with the other icons in the Sugar Theme.

Signed-off-by: Daniel Francis 
---
 icons/scalable/actions/zoom-best-fit.svg |4 ++--
 icons/scalable/actions/zoom-in.svg   |4 ++--
 icons/scalable/actions/zoom-original.svg |4 ++--
 icons/scalable/actions/zoom-out.svg  |4 ++--
 4 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)

diff --git a/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-best-fit.svg 
b/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-best-fit.svg
index 68d103f..1a3a240 100644
--- a/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-best-fit.svg
+++ b/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-best-fit.svg
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd'>http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"; 
xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"; y="0px">

-   
+   




-
\ No newline at end of file
+
diff --git a/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-in.svg 
b/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-in.svg
index 8031903..4bed524 100644
--- a/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-in.svg
+++ b/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-in.svg
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd'>http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"; 
xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"; y="0px">

-   
+   




-
\ No newline at end of file
+
diff --git a/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-original.svg 
b/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-original.svg
index 2ccb5c5..77639db 100644
--- a/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-original.svg
+++ b/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-original.svg
@@ -3,9 +3,9 @@

 ]>http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"; xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"; 
y="0px">

-   
+   




-
\ No newline at end of file
+
diff --git a/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-out.svg 
b/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-out.svg
index 1e6a681..3418b16 100644
--- a/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-out.svg
+++ b/icons/scalable/actions/zoom-out.svg
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd'>http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"; 
xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"; y="0px">

-   
+   



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\ No newline at end of file
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Jerry Vonau
Most likely that is it, the exclude= list is created from the list of rpms
that are not found in fedora's/koji's repos.

Jerry

On 12 July 2012 15:50, Anish Mangal  wrote:

> could it be a problem with mirros?
>
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/testing/dx3/rpms/i386/os/
>
> btw, there are a few glibc rpm's present there ^^ (dx repo) but i386
> arch. I have to check why they were created. Don't think they should
> be blocking the update though.
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Jon,
> >
> > Doing "sudo yum clean all", followed by "sudo yum list glibc*" has the
> same
> > result.
> >
> > Also, all packages at
> > http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS are 0 bytes.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Jon Nettleton 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ajay Garg 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Thanks Jon for the reply.
> >> >
> >> > Here is the output ::
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> #
> >> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ sudo yum list glibc*
> >> >
> >> > Loaded plugins: downloadonly
> >> > Installed Packages
> >> > glibc.armv5tel 2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
> >> > glibc-common.armv5tel  2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
> >> >
> >> >
> #
> >> >
> >>
> >> Oh that is very strange because the package does exist there.
> >> http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS
> >>
> >> perhaps you should try a sudo yum clean all, then sudo yum list 'glibc*'
> >>
> >> -Jon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Anish Mangal
could it be a problem with mirros?

http://download.sugarlabs.org/dextrose/testing/dx3/rpms/i386/os/

btw, there are a few glibc rpm's present there ^^ (dx repo) but i386
arch. I have to check why they were created. Don't think they should
be blocking the update though.

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Ajay Garg  wrote:
> Jon,
>
> Doing "sudo yum clean all", followed by "sudo yum list glibc*" has the same
> result.
>
> Also, all packages at
> http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS are 0 bytes.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Jon Nettleton 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks Jon for the reply.
>> >
>> > Here is the output ::
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > #
>> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ sudo yum list glibc*
>> >
>> > Loaded plugins: downloadonly
>> > Installed Packages
>> > glibc.armv5tel 2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
>> > glibc-common.armv5tel  2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
>> >
>> > #
>> >
>>
>> Oh that is very strange because the package does exist there.
>> http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS
>>
>> perhaps you should try a sudo yum clean all, then sudo yum list 'glibc*'
>>
>> -Jon
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Jerry Vonau
Ajay:

Check /etc/yum/olpc-exclude for glib*, if present remove it and rerun yum.
Check the all the fedora repo files for an exclude=glibc* also.

Jerry

On 12 July 2012 15:41, Ajay Garg  wrote:

> Jon,
>
> Doing "sudo yum clean all", followed by "sudo yum list glibc*" has the
> same result.
>
> Also, all packages at
> http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS are 0 bytes.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks Jon for the reply.
>> >
>> > Here is the output ::
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> #
>> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ sudo yum list glibc*
>> >
>> > Loaded plugins: downloadonly
>> > Installed Packages
>> > glibc.armv5tel 2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
>> > glibc-common.armv5tel  2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
>> >
>> #
>> >
>>
>> Oh that is very strange because the package does exist there.
>> http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS
>>
>> perhaps you should try a sudo yum clean all, then sudo yum list 'glibc*'
>>
>> -Jon
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Ajay Garg
Jon,

Doing "sudo yum clean all", followed by "sudo yum list glibc*" has the same
result.

Also, all packages at
http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS are 0 bytes.


On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Thanks Jon for the reply.
> >
> > Here is the output ::
> >
> >
> >
> #
> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ sudo yum list glibc*
> >
> > Loaded plugins: downloadonly
> > Installed Packages
> > glibc.armv5tel 2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
> > glibc-common.armv5tel  2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
> >
> #
> >
>
> Oh that is very strange because the package does exist there.
> http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/RPMS
>
> perhaps you should try a sudo yum clean all, then sudo yum list 'glibc*'
>
> -Jon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Kevin Gordon  wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> > Peter,
>> >
>> > Could you let me know which repo will solve the purpose?
>> >
>> > ls /etc/yum.repos.d says ::
>> >
>> > dextrose-freeworld.rep
>> > dextrose-next.repo
>> > dextrose.repo
>> > fedora.rep
>> > fedora-updates.repo
>> > fedora-updates-testing.repo
>> > olpc-f14.repp
>> > olpc-f14-xo1.75.repo
>>
>> The fedora repositories. I have no idea about dextrose* so I'm not
>> sure what they do that might block anything else. The olpc*
>> repositories will block anything that is installed from the original
>> build so it won't break the core OS build but it will allow any other
>> packages to be installed.
>>
>> Peter
>
>
> I just loaded a fresh F14 1.75 build, then did a yum install glibc-devel.
> Works flawlessly, installs two dependencies:  kernel-headers and
> glibc-headers.  All rpms found in the fedora repository, all are FC14,
> armv5tel.

Yes, so I suspect it's something that dextrose* repos are doing but
I've never used them so I have no idea how to deal with that. It's
certainly not a problem on a standard XO build.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Could you let me know which repo will solve the purpose?
>
> ls /etc/yum.repos.d says ::
>
> dextrose-freeworld.rep
> dextrose-next.repo
> dextrose.repo
> fedora.rep
> fedora-updates.repo
> fedora-updates-testing.repo
> olpc-f14.repp
> olpc-f14-xo1.75.repo

The fedora repositories. I have no idea about dextrose* so I'm not
sure what they do that might block anything else. The olpc*
repositories will block anything that is installed from the original
build so it won't break the core OS build but it will allow any other
packages to be installed.

Peter

> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Peter Robinson 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi all.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
>> >> >
>> >> > Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent
>> >> > packages.
>> >> >
>> >> > Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM
>> >> > repos
>> >> > (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but
>> >> > even
>> >> > that fails,  with no error message :\
>> >> > Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > So,
>> >> > I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
>> >> > "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as
>> >> > I
>> >> > believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least
>> >> > that
>> >> > is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > For brevity,
>> >> >
>> >> > a)
>> >> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
>> >> >
>> >> > glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
>> >> > glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > b)
>> >> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
>> >> >
>> >> > Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain
>> >> > 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916
>> >> > #1
>> >> > PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance..
>> >>
>> >> Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
>> >> repositories in the yum config if they're not?
>> >
>> >
>> > Of course yes.
>> >
>> > If you have the glibc-devel package that I need, please provide it to
>> > me.
>>
>> It's in the fedora repositories.
>>
>> Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Ajay Garg
Thanks Jon for the reply.

Here is the output ::


#
[olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ sudo yum list glibc*

Loaded plugins: downloadonly
Installed Packages
glibc.armv5tel 2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
glibc-common.armv5tel  2.13-2.1   @koji.dist-f14-armv5tel/$releasever
#


I will be happy to carry out any more tests :)


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay



On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Peter Robinson 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Hi all.
> >>> >
> >>> > I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
> >>> >
> >>> > Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent
> >>> > packages.
> >>> >
> >>> > Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM
> >>> > repos
> >>> > (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but
> even
> >>> > that fails,  with no error message :\
> >>> > Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > So,
> >>> > I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
> >>> > "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem,
> as I
> >>> > believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least
> >>> > that
> >>> > is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > For brevity,
> >>> >
> >>> > a)
> >>> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
> >>> >
> >>> > glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >>> > glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > b)
> >>> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
> >>> >
> >>> > Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain
> 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916
> >>> > #1
> >>> > PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks in advance..
> >>>
> >>> Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
> >>> repositories in the yum config if they're not?
> >>
> >>
> >> Of course yes.
> >>
> >> If you have the glibc-devel package that I need, please provide it to
> me.
> >
> > It's in the fedora repositories.
>
> Please verify your date and time are up to date.  Having an incorrect
> system time can cause
> the SSL verification on the yum repo get to fail.  Also if you can not
> install glibc-devel via yum
> please post the output of yum list 'glibc*' so we can evaluate it.  We
> obviously want to fix this
> if it is a problem.
>
> -Jon
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Ajay Garg
Peter,

Could you let me know which repo will solve the purpose?

ls /etc/yum.repos.d says ::

dextrose-freeworld.rep
dextrose-next.repo
dextrose.repo
fedora.rep
fedora-updates.repo
fedora-updates-testing.repo
olpc-f14.repp
olpc-f14-xo1.75.repo

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Peter Robinson 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi all.
> >> >
> >> > I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
> >> >
> >> > Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent
> >> > packages.
> >> >
> >> > Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM
> >> > repos
> >> > (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but
> even
> >> > that fails,  with no error message :\
> >> > Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > So,
> >> > I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
> >> > "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as
> I
> >> > believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least
> >> > that
> >> > is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For brevity,
> >> >
> >> > a)
> >> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
> >> >
> >> > glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >> > glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > b)
> >> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
> >> >
> >> > Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916
> >> > #1
> >> > PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance..
> >>
> >> Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
> >> repositories in the yum config if they're not?
> >
> >
> > Of course yes.
> >
> > If you have the glibc-devel package that I need, please provide it to me.
>
> It's in the fedora repositories.
>
> Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Peter Robinson 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi all.
>> >
>> > I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
>> >
>> > Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent
>> > packages.
>> >
>> > Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM
>> > repos
>> > (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
>> >
>> >
>> > I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but even
>> > that fails,  with no error message :\
>> > Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
>> >
>> >
>> > So,
>> > I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
>> > "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as I
>> > believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least
>> > that
>> > is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > For brevity,
>> >
>> > a)
>> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
>> >
>> > glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
>> > glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > b)
>> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
>> >
>> > Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916
>> > #1
>> > PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance..
>>
>> Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
>> repositories in the yum config if they're not?
>
>
> Of course yes.
>
> If you have the glibc-devel package that I need, please provide it to me.

It's in the fedora repositories.

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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-149.1

2012-07-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027

Sugar Platform:
0.82 - 0.96

Download Now:
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Release notes:
149.1

This new version of Turtle Art retains compatibility with older versions of 
Sugar.

ENHANCEMENTS
* Move "sandwich block" to flow palette
* Added support for drag-and-drop of block data from clipboard
* New translations

BUG FIX:
* Fixed problem with nested While loops




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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Blocks-150

2012-07-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027

Sugar Platform:
0.96 - 0.96

Download Now:
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Release notes:
Announcing Turtle Blocks Version 150 -- the first GTK-3 release. 

Thanks to the efforts of Daniel Francis, we now have a version of Turtle Blocks 
for the GNOME 3 toolkit. Note that this version is for Sugar 0.96+. Please use 
Version 149 on older versions of Sugar.

150

ENHANCEMENT:
* Migration to GTK-3 (with Daniel Francis)
* Added support for drag-and-drop of block data from clipboard
* Move "sandwich block" to flow palette
* New translations

BUG FIX:
* Fixed problem with nested While loops



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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Ajay Garg
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg 
> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
> >
> > Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent packages.
> >
> > Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM
> repos
> > (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
> >
> >
> > I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but even
> > that fails,  with no error message :\
> > Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
> >
> >
> > So,
> > I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
> > "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as I
> > believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least
> that
> > is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For brevity,
> >
> > a)
> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
> >
> > glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> > glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > b)
> > [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
> >
> > Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916 #1
> > PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance..
>
> Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
> repositories in the yum config if they're not?
>

Of course yes.

If you have the glibc-devel package that I need, please provide it to me.


Thanks and Regards,
Ajay



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Re: [Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ajay Garg  wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.
>
> Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent packages.
>
> Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM repos
> (for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!
>
>
> I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but even
> that fails,  with no error message :\
> Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!
>
>
> So,
> I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
> "glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as I
> believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least that
> is what the "glibc.spec" file says).
>
>
>
>
> For brevity,
>
> a)
> [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc
>
> glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
> glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
>
>
>
>
> b)
> [olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a
>
> Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916 #1
> PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance..

Have you tried "yum install glibc-devel"? Have you enabled the fedora
repositories in the yum config if they're not?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Simple messages notification system

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Castelo
This feature is very useful for us. For example we use it to notify users
about the release of new software images and to publish information about
contests that Ceibal promote. To send the notifications we use our updater
system.

Cheers, Daniel


2012/7/6 Anish Mangal 

> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Gary Martin 
> wrote:
> > Hi Anish,
> >
> > On 6 Jul 2012, at 07:39, Anish Mangal wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would like to propose a feature for inclusion in 0.98 cycle, which
> >> we developed for dextrose, and is present in dextrose-3 (11.3.1 based)
> >> builds. The idea is to provide an api for simple notification messages
> >> to be displayed in the frame.
> >>
> >> The relevant details are mentioned in the associated feature page:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Simple_Messages_Notification
> >
> > Thanks for starting the mail-list thread. Do you have any examples of
> how this notification feature is currently being used on the ground by
> dextrose users? Would be interesting to know some concrete examples and if
> you've had any direct user feedback.
> >
>
> Yes, there are a couple of examples in which this is feature is used:
>
> 1. There is a automatic-yum-based updater in dextrose, which installs
> updates to sugar and related  packages in the background, and upon
> installation, when a restart is required, a notification to that
> effect pops up. This is present in all flavors of dextrose (AU, UY,
> PY, Intl), and is also the one demonstrated on the feature page.
>
> 2. This feature has been used quite extensively in UY, where they use
> it to notify kids about a number of important information that the
> deployment administration needs to convey. I am cc-ing Esteban Bordon
> and Daniel Castelo, who might have more details.
>
>
> As far as feedback is concerned, we havent heard of complaints from
> deployments on this feature so far (I guess that's a positive ;-) ).
> The criticism has been to add more features to it.
> * Perhaps, there could be more notification classes. i.e., different
> alert types/icons
> * Prioritization of some alerts over others
>
> So far, this is a basic implementation which doesn't get in people's
> way and mostly works. We can add more bells and whistles to it, but I
> would want to upstream it first and add them later (with proper design
> discussions around them)
>
> Let me know if you need more clarification :-)
> > Regards,
> > --Gary
> >
>
> Cheers,
> Anish
>



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-build] Support Fedora 16

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 12 July 2012 19:12, Daniel Narvaez  wrote:
> On 12 July 2012 15:47, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:
>>> Are you sure gtk3 and all the introspection magic is working in F16,
>>> or just only compile?
>>
>> Yes, I have my netbook with F16 32bits working with sugar-build.
>
> Out of curiosity does make test succeed?

Oh it's probably not run because F16 doesn't have recent enough dogtail...
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-build] Support Fedora 16

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 12 July 2012 15:47, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:
>> Are you sure gtk3 and all the introspection magic is working in F16,
>> or just only compile?
>
> Yes, I have my netbook with F16 32bits working with sugar-build.

Out of curiosity does make test succeed?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-build] Support Fedora 16

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 12 July 2012 15:22, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Daniel Narvaez  wrote:
>> I prefer to not support old distributions in sugar-build, to reduce
>> the maintenance cost.
>
> I think we can support Fedora 16 meanwhile it doesn't take too much
> effort for us to maintain it. I mean, in the future when it will be
> complicated to maintain we could say: "Fedora 16 is no longer
> supported" and that's it.

To add a distro to the supported list in the README/wiki, I really
want a buildbot slave for it. That's because when I make changes to
the repository I need to make sure they works everywhere and I can't
test on every single distro. I don't want stuff to bitrot, people try
out sugar-build on a supported distro and run away with the impression
that getting it to work is hard, needs tweaking or that stuff is half
broken. That happened with sugar-jhbuild since forever and I think it
was the main issue with it. So if we want F16 as an official distro we
will need to setup a buildbot slave (I don't have time to do so rigth
now).

On the other hand I would be fine with adding F16 as unsupported.
Basically not listed in the docs and with a big warning "it might or
might not work, we suggest you pick a supported distro" at deps
installation time. We already have something similar for !ubuntu &&
!fedora distros, except in this case we would actually install the
dependencies as best as we can instead of just listing them.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-build] Support Fedora 16

2012-07-12 Thread Manuel Kaufmann
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:
> Are you sure gtk3 and all the introspection magic is working in F16,
> or just only compile?

Yes, I have my netbook with F16 32bits working with sugar-build.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-build] Support Fedora 16

2012-07-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
>
>
> I think we can support Fedora 16 meanwhile it doesn't take too much
> effort for us to maintain it. I mean, in the future when it will be
> complicated to maintain we could say: "Fedora 16 is no longer
> supported" and that's it.
>
>
Are you sure gtk3 and all the introspection magic is working in F16,
or just only compile?

Gonzalo



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-build] Support Fedora 16

2012-07-12 Thread Manuel Kaufmann
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Daniel Narvaez  wrote:
> I prefer to not support old distributions in sugar-build, to reduce
> the maintenance cost.

I think we can support Fedora 16 meanwhile it doesn't take too much
effort for us to maintain it. I mean, in the future when it will be
complicated to maintain we could say: "Fedora 16 is no longer
supported" and that's it.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Some sugar-build comments

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 12 July 2012 13:04, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Daniel Narvaez  wrote:
>> It's not right now because Xephyr crashes in Ubuntu (upstream bug and
>> they are not patching it). That's the reason I had to go for a full X
>> server initially.
>
> What's about configuring the new X with a small resolution and access
> to it through VNC? (I think this is possible but I don't know how to
> do it :) )

Something like that might work yeah.
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[Sugar-devel] "glibc-devel" F14 package for armv5tel

2012-07-12 Thread Ajay Garg
Hi all.

I am trying to build "avahi" on my XO-1.75.

Building "avahi" requires "glibc-devel" as one of its dependent packages.

Very, very surprisingly, there is no "glibc-devel" present in the ARM repos
(for armv5tel/armv7tel) !!


I have tried building the "glibc" packages from the source-rpm, but even
that fails,  with no error message :\
Heck, building "glibc" packages fail even on x86 !!


So,
I would request everyone, if someone could point-me-to/give-me a
"glibc-devel" rpm for ARM, being used in the OLPC/sugar ecosystem, as I
believe that "glibc-devel" is a very fundamental package (or at least that
is what the "glibc.spec" file says).




For brevity,

a)
[olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ rpm -qa | grep glibc

glibc-common-2.13-2.1.armv5tel
glibc-2.13-2.1.armv5tel




b)
[olpc@xo-c5-b9-6c rpmbuild]$ uname -a

Linux xo-c5-b9-6c.localdomain 3.0.19_xo1.75-20120321.1512.olpc.1398916 #1
PREEMPT Wed Mar 21 16:04:14 EDT 2012 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux






Thanks in advance..


Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Some sugar-build comments

2012-07-12 Thread Manuel Kaufmann
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Daniel Narvaez  wrote:
> It's not right now because Xephyr crashes in Ubuntu (upstream bug and
> they are not patching it). That's the reason I had to go for a full X
> server initially.

What's about configuring the new X with a small resolution and access
to it through VNC? (I think this is possible but I don't know how to
do it :) )

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Some sugar-build comments

2012-07-12 Thread Manuel Kaufmann
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Daniel Narvaez  wrote:
> I probably wouldn't claim it's a replacement of sugar-jhbuild, that
> project is still maintained etc. Maybe alternative?

Yes, "an alternative" is a good alternative :)

I've already changed it.

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[Sugar-devel] About the build out-of-source-directory patches

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello,

this is a follow up of the development meeting. Sascha had some
question about my build out-of-source directory patches.

>IIRC, we're a) missing some explanation of the overall picture (what do we 
>want to solve, how do we solve it in sugar, why do we solve it this way, what 
>other >changes are needed?) and b) previous review comments were applied only 
>partially

a)
My own need is that by building out-of-source directory I can speed up
sugar-build a lot because I don't need to pull the sources every time.
I can clean build and install and the tree is fully clean.
But it's often just a developer preference to build stuff that way.
Build out-of-source directory is a very common convention in auto*
projects, and fully supported by most of them, I never had issue
getting patches accepted to fix it.
I really see no reason sugar should not support it. Especially because
it almost completely supports it already (otherwise you couldn't
distcheck), it's just the autogen.sh bits which are broken. It's a bug
fix, not a new feature.
No other changes will be necessary.
b) Can you elaborate please?

>re why do we solve it this way? addressing why we don't just go the ./setup.py 
>(distutils) route right away would be good, too.

I'm not interested in evaluating the merits of a build system rewrite
right now. I'm proposing a very simple, uncontroversial patch on the
top of what is there. If we believe it's important to switch to
distutils let's do it at some point, but I don't see why it should
block incremental improvements of what we have.

Thanks

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Some sugar-build comments

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
I probably wouldn't claim it's a replacement of sugar-jhbuild, that
project is still maintained etc. Maybe alternative?

Thanks!

On 12 July 2012 00:15, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
>>  * [wiki page] I'm going to create a wiki page that explains how to
>> use "sugar-build", just in case: Someone has already done this?
>
> I started writing here:
>
>  * http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/SugarBuild
>
> Hope it helps!
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Some sugar-build comments

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
It's not right now because Xephyr crashes in Ubuntu (upstream bug and
they are not patching it). That's the reason I had to go for a full X
server initially.

Though I must day I got to like it now and I wouldn't go back to a
window myself, I'm even using it as my main desktop (something I think
more sugar hackers should do! :P).

Xephyr is basically unmaintained but the next set of distributions is
supposed to have a better X nesting solution, so hopefully we can
reconsider and offer the option then.

We could probably consider a config option to use Xephyr as server
(and so get a window) if there is much demand for the feature. I'm
trying as much as possible to not offer features that works only on a
certain distro though, for simplicity and maintenance reasons.

On 12 July 2012 00:53, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
>> On the other hand,
>
> What's about running sugar-build on a window? Is this possible?
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Some sugar-build comments

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 11 July 2012 21:53, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I found sugar-build really easy-to-use. I tested it on F16 (32 bits)
> and F17 (64 bits) without problems (actually I sent a patch that fixes
> the error that I had on F16). On the other hand,
>
>  * [root permissions] I think we should add a message to the user
> letting him know about "which" command is sugar-build going to execute
> with "sudo". For example, when "yum install" is called.

Yeah, this is important. I added to the TODO, patches would be welcome.

>  * [github.com repository] Maybe we should remove this repository or
> point it to the git.sugarlabs.org one to avoid confusion (I prefer to
> remove the github one)

Ups, yeah, killed!

>  * [wiki page] I'm going to create a wiki page that explains how to
> use "sugar-build", just in case: Someone has already done this?

Yeah I think we need a wiki page, though I would like to keep it in
sync with the README somehow. I'm adding stuff there as I change the
code, so it's supposed to be always up to date. I can see a few
possibilities:

* Have the wiki as official documentation and just link from the README.
* Have the README as official documentation and just link from the
wiki (the details about git cloning the repo would have to still be on
the wiki of course)
* Write the README in wiki format and copy it on the wiki page,
keeping it in sync. (same story about git cloning)

I sort of like to keep the documentation with the code, but I don't
have a super strong feeling. What do you think of these possibilities?
Other ideas?

Thanks!
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar-build] Support Fedora 16

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi Manuel,

thanks for your patch.

I prefer to not support old distributions in sugar-build, to reduce
the maintenance cost. It appears to just work right now but that
might change during the development cycle or when we make changes to
sugar-build itself (we will have to add master gtk soon for the shell
port, for example) and ensuring everything works as expected on many
distributions is very time consuming. I'd also have to setup two other
buildbot slaves for F16 and those are also quite expensive to
maintain. And when things will start breaking we would probably have
to add special cases to check-system, build certain stuff only on
certain distro, which will increase complexity and bring us back to
the sugar-jhbuild situation...

So, all in all, I prefer to be absolutely certain stuff works out of
the box for everyone on the latest distribution, at a reasonable
maintenance cost, rather than trying to support everything and failing
to do so reliably. I understand it might be annoying for some users to
have to upgrade to F17, but I think it's reasonable to accept that
limitation in exchange for reliability.

If in the future sugar development stops depending on the very cutting
edge of the GNOME stuff I think it might be possible to reasses this
decision, but unfortunately right now I don't see it coming very soon.

On 11 July 2012 21:46, Manuel Kaufmann  wrote:
> check-system script checks if we are on Fedora 16 and
> 'distro' variable is set to 'fedora' in this case.
>
> Signed-off-by: Manuel Kaufmann 
> ---
>  scripts/check-system |3 ++-
>  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/scripts/check-system b/scripts/check-system
> index 659d81e..993606f 100755
> --- a/scripts/check-system
> +++ b/scripts/check-system
> @@ -378,7 +378,8 @@ def check_distro():
>  # Fedora
>  try:
>  fedora_release = open("/etc/fedora-release").read().strip()
> -if fedora_release == "Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle)":
> +if fedora_release == "Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle)" \
> +   or fedora_release == "Fedora release 16 (Verne)":
>  distro = "fedora"
>  except IOError:
>  pass
> --
> 1.7.7.6
>



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