Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > I repeated these tests Thanks! > XO-1.75 and XO-4 > OS14 > Huawei E160E modem > Imation 8GB memory stick Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash drive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick Ajay said pen-drive, and I took that to mean a USB flash drive. > I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem > appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot > > but for both laptops > > In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in after boot, the > frame never got past displaying connecting, even though I could > browse the net ok Yes, this is SL #4255. > In the second test, memory stick and modem plugged in before boot, I > got to the connected display in the frame but the upload and > download kB counters never updated past 0 even though I was > browsing, the connected time did update ok. Interesting, thanks. Updated SL #4255. I've never seen data counters in 13.1.0 builds. > I did not try without the memory stick. I think your tests show that Ajay's problem is likely to be unique to the pen-drive in use. Thanks for that. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
I repeated these tests XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot but for both laptops In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in after boot, the frame never got past displaying connecting, even though I could browse the net ok In the second test, memory stick and modem plugged in before boot, I got to the connected display in the frame but the upload and download kB counters never updated past 0 even though I was browsing, the connected time did update ok. I did not try without the memory stick. Tony > I downloaded 13.1.0 os14 for XO-1.75 and tested for your problem about > ten times, and it never happened. > > I don't know if there was a fix, or if your USB flash drive is somehow > unique. > > I suggest you try testing os14, or dig deeper into why cdc_ether is > not starting. > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:44:33PM +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: > > I just compared the "case_*_messages" files, and it seems that the reason of > > the modem not being listed/detected/appearing in case 1, is because the > > "cdc_ether" driver doesn't start upon boot. > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM, James Cameron wrote: > > > > That's very interesting. So it is the pen drive causing the problem. > > Does a pen drive of a different manufacturer also cause the problem? > > > > (I see a similar problem on XO-4 B1 with 13.1.0 os12, ... if any pen > > drive is attached the modem is detected by the kernel, not shown by > > frame, and not shown by "nmcli dev", but as I know the USB host has > > power design problems, I'm not sure how reliable this fact is.) > > > > #12340 > > > > -- > > James Cameron > > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Ajay Garg > > Dextrose Developer > > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > _ > This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line > see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC OS on Zync Z930 Tablet
Hey, Yes... we're working on getting Sugar on the tablet form factor. We're looking at compiling Sugar for an armv7 chip based tablet. (Allwinner A10 chip- armhf ). There are many cheap tablets flooding the market here in India, so we thought it is a good idea to get Sugar on them. Would be quite cost effective, (not in the long run though, none of them are as sturdy as the XOs) Getting the touch screen and multi-touch capabilities in linux are seemingly a problem here. If anyone is working on the linux/environment configuration for the new XOs, would love to get some technical guidance for this.. On 23 November 2012 02:41, Sameer Verma wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Christoph Derndorfer < > christoph.derndor...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> >> a Google News Alert just pointed me to this thread over on the XDA >> developer forums where someone working for an NGO in India is trying to >> figure out whether it's possible to get Sugar running on a low-cost tablet: >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005715 >> >> Not sure whether anyone has ever tried something similar but given the >> ever-improving ARM support of Fedora I thought someone here might be able >> to help the guy out. >> >> > I can think of two ways this could possibly work. One is to "dual boot" so > that the entire Fedora+Sugar stack lives on a storage medium and the tablet > boots into it. The other is to reuse the Linux part of the Android stack, > but to run a different upper stack like how Ubuntu on Android works ( > http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android). A similar approach is used with > Debian on Android where the Debian system lives in a chroot. > http://evilzone.org/android/debian-on-android/ > > cheers, > Sameer > > Cheers, >> Christoph >> >> >> -- >> Christoph Derndorfer >> >> volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] >> editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] >> contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net] >> >> e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu >> >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> de...@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> > > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel > > -- Regards, Johnson Chetty ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release FoodChain-2
Lionel, How about i18n? cjl On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: > Activity Homepage: > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4612 > > Sugar Platform: > 0.96 - 0.98 > > Download Now: > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28362/foodchain-2.xo > > Release notes: > - Audio and animation optimization > - Touch support > > > Sugar Labs Activities > http://activities.sugarlabs.org > > ___ > Sugar-devel mailing list > Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
I downloaded 13.1.0 os14 for XO-1.75 and tested for your problem about ten times, and it never happened. I don't know if there was a fix, or if your USB flash drive is somehow unique. I suggest you try testing os14, or dig deeper into why cdc_ether is not starting. On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:44:33PM +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: > I just compared the "case_*_messages" files, and it seems that the reason of > the modem not being listed/detected/appearing in case 1, is because the > "cdc_ether" driver doesn't start upon boot. > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM, James Cameron wrote: > > That's very interesting. So it is the pen drive causing the problem. > Does a pen drive of a different manufacturer also cause the problem? > > (I see a similar problem on XO-4 B1 with 13.1.0 os12, ... if any pen > drive is attached the modem is detected by the kernel, not shown by > frame, and not shown by "nmcli dev", but as I know the USB host has > power design problems, I'm not sure how reliable this fact is.) > > #12340 > > -- > James Cameron > http://quozl.linux.org.au/ > > > > > Regards, > > Ajay Garg > Dextrose Developer > Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release FoodChain-2
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4612 Sugar Platform: 0.96 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28362/foodchain-2.xo Release notes: - Audio and animation optimization - Touch support Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC OS on Zync Z930 Tablet
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Christoph Derndorfer < christoph.derndor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey everyone, > > a Google News Alert just pointed me to this thread over on the XDA > developer forums where someone working for an NGO in India is trying to > figure out whether it's possible to get Sugar running on a low-cost tablet: > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005715 > > Not sure whether anyone has ever tried something similar but given the > ever-improving ARM support of Fedora I thought someone here might be able > to help the guy out. > > I can think of two ways this could possibly work. One is to "dual boot" so that the entire Fedora+Sugar stack lives on a storage medium and the tablet boots into it. The other is to reuse the Linux part of the Android stack, but to run a different upper stack like how Ubuntu on Android works ( http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android). A similar approach is used with Debian on Android where the Debian system lives in a chroot. http://evilzone.org/android/debian-on-android/ cheers, Sameer Cheers, > Christoph > > > -- > Christoph Derndorfer > > volunteer, OLPC (Austria) [www.olpc.at] > editor, OLPC News [www.olpcnews.com] > contributor, TechnikBasteln [www.technikbasteln.net] > > e-mail: christ...@derndorfer.eu > > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > de...@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Paint-50
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4082 Sugar Platform: 0.98 - 0.98 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28363/paint-50.xo Release notes: This version depends on sugar-toolkit-gtk3 0.97.11 Changes: * Fix padding in color palettes * Enlarge size & alpha sliders to improve use with touch * Use the new lockable Palette (Simon Schampijer) Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-AU] Harmonising network proxy settings
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > We've got at least three places in the system where network proxies > can be configured: > > * http_proxy environment variable > * gconf > * dconf > > The latter two support manual and automatic proxies. dconf should eventually completely replace gconf. It hasn't yet because there just hasn't been the development time. GNOME is moving to dconf for everything which means once we do we can share the settings between both environments. > A problem is that different activities (e.g. Browse, Get Books) or > parts of Sugar (e.g. Software Update) want to get their proxy settings > from different sources. Also, automatic proxies don't really work in > anything but Browse (as they are JavaScript files). I suspect (although could be completely wrong) the underlying components of Browse are getting the settings from WebKit which is likely using the gnome dconf settings. > All of these permutations are creating difficulties for users. Sugar > has a Proxy applet in the Control Panel, which AFAICS only updates > gconf. We've modified this behaviour in our builds to write the Manual > proxy setting to the http_proxy environment variable so that software > like yum (which we rely upon for OS updates), Software Update and Get > Books can function. Is there any reason why you can't use a transparent proxy on the network edge which will mean its all configured and controlled from a central location rather than through individual settings on each of the laptops? > In our schools it is common to require proxy authentication to get > online, often with a PAC/WPAD file that prompts the user for > credentials when they try and access a Web page. In these schools, > they must specify the proxy twice - the Manual one first and then the > Automatic. > > We commonly come across situations where teachers understandably think > they have full Internet access because Browse is able to load Web > pages. What they don't realise is that the rest of the system does not > have Internet access, meaning that (amongst other things) they cannot > update the OS or activities. > > What I'm wondering is whether we can devise a means to simplify this > confusion for developers and users alike. For example, can we > standardise around one library or API call for Sugar and all > activities? That is the plan but it's a matter of resources and development time to make that happen and ensure that all Activities are updated for the plan. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
