[Sugar-devel] Memorize Mod

2016-01-11 Thread Sora Edwards-Thro
Hi all,

Gonzalo Odiard came up with a really neat way to use the art4apps image
library in Memorize. You match each image to its written version. It's a
great way to practice a second language or introduce beginning readers to a
first. Remember, Memorize has a text-to-speech engine so it can read the
words out loud, too. Super-cool.

We've done this the long way in Haiti before (kids take pictures of
objects, I write out the English / French words for them), and everyone's
always been really enthusiastic about it.

Problem is, the default thing that comes up when you launch a new instance
of Memorize is math flashcards. So, everyone knows it as the "math
activity."

I'm currently putting together a literacy-focused build; we'd like to add a
Memorize that opens with a word-picture demo to it.

If anyone's available to help making the needed modifications to Memorize,
please let me know. I have a feeling that others in the community will find
this version of it useful. There are other places you can go to practice
addition (+1 to TuxMath) but there aren't as many tools available for
language learners.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Approach

2016-01-11 Thread samson goddy
Yeah i think i agree with sam on that.  

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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:50:08 -0300
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Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP]  Approach

+1 to Sam comments.I think we should ask before implement a digital  tool:Why X 
should be done with a computer?Is better than do it with real paper, pencils, 
scissors, etc? Enable anything new?Scale better? Can reach more users?
Just my two cent
Gonzalo  
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Sam P.  wrote:
Hi Samson,
They are interesting in a way, and they seem to have a nice presentation 
editor.  Maybe that could be something to hack with the new collab text editor 
apis?
But I disagree with their approach many ways.  I was chatting with some people 
about this and struggled to see pedagogical use of many of their tools:
* "Quickfire" quiz thing - is talking to students hard?  Is it hard to get them 
to pass you an answer on paper?  Well, spend a lot of time setting up some 
computer thing instead!* "Discuss" - too hard to get kids to put up hands to 
discuss something?  Too hard to get them into groups?  Too hard to "pair share 
pair" or whatever strategy?  Have them talk at each other over the internet, 
after wasting time fussing with tech.* "Team Up" - too hard to get them into 
groups irl?  Too hard to let them talk so they can work together?  Too hard to 
use a normal presentation app to make slides?  Use this thing!
Overall, I think this represents an interesting trend in edu tech - making 
normal classroom things digital.  This is a trend that I view as useless from 
my experiences.  These are not useful tools for teachers to teach with, it 
doesn't let the kids make things or research things.  The currently successful 
devices in edu tech seem to be chromebooks - which don't add a single thing 
that is educational.  Instead they have collaboration for word processing, 
slides, etc.  Real tools for making real stuff.
Spiral does make me thing about what our approach should be though (hint: not 
like spiral) - making tools for kids to work together and make stuff.  Tools 
that teachers can use in their lesson plans.
Thanks,Sam
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:08 PM, samson goddy  wrote:



Someone tweeted @sugar_labs via twitter, asking if the sugarlabs might be 
interested in this application. But it seems like she does not know that Sugar 
Labs has an OS. But the interesting thing is the approach about the 
application. It will be really good to have something like this as an activity 
in Sugar OS so it might make work for teachers in school easier. Here is the 
link to the site http://spiral.ac/r/miB 

Samson
  

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] "Modern" Browser XO-1

2016-01-11 Thread Adam Holt
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Sora Edwards-Thro 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> What's the most "modern" browser someone could install on an XO-1? (either
> Sugar or Gnome side). What options do we have for upgrading to support
> specific apps?
>
> This is a generic question that I figure others would be interested. I
> have a specific problem I want to deal with in the future, but not enough
> information to ask a good question about it yet.
>

This affects so many so I'm expanding the conversation to others who know
more: what modern/snappy browsers do different folk out there find are most
viable for XO-1 (primarily, but all other XO laptops too) going forward?

For offline content / offline deployments especially, where security risks
are theoretically a lot lower -- but yet these schools increasingly need to
render "modern" HTML5/Javascript content, and will use Gnome or Sugar
depending which browser's best -- and hopefully Sugarizer soon too!
Currently on the SD cards for XO-1 we're preparing for many countries (and
Los Angeles' big SCaLE show in 10 days) we include these 3 browsers so
people have options:

OLPC Release 13.2.6's Browse activity (far better than older browsers ;)
Epiphany on Gnome (wonderfully fast!)
Firefox 26.0 on Gnome (I wish something more up-to-date was available
for Fedora 18, but apparently not?)

Going forward what subtleties should we be paying attention to between
browsers to do better?  Separately, why does Firefox 43.x still seem like a
hog after so many years, after major improvement recently isolating tabs
from one another as Chrome pioneered?  (And where is Nick Doiron hiding in
Asia, to solve all our front-end problems when we need him ;-)

Thanks all for digging deeper into this annoying-yet-central question --
hemlines rise and fall in the fashion industry of which browsers are
coolest/fastest one year to the next -- but at the same time we need to
come full circle making strong recommendations to deployments that
constantly keep asking us =}

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Approach

2016-01-11 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
+1 to Sam comments.
I think we should ask before implement a digital  tool:
Why X should be done with a computer?
Is better than do it with real paper, pencils, scissors, etc?
Enable anything new?
Scale better?
Can reach more users?

Just my two cent

Gonzalo


On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:24 AM, Sam P.  wrote:

> Hi Samson,
>
> They are interesting in a way, and they seem to have a nice presentation
> editor.  Maybe that could be something to hack with the new collab text
> editor apis?
>
> But I disagree with their approach many ways.  I was chatting with some
> people about this and struggled to see pedagogical use of many of their
> tools:
>
> * "Quickfire" quiz thing - is talking to students hard?  Is it hard to get
> them to pass you an answer on paper?  Well, spend a lot of time setting up
> some computer thing instead!
> * "Discuss" - too hard to get kids to put up hands to discuss something?
> Too hard to get them into groups?  Too hard to "pair share pair" or
> whatever strategy?  Have them talk at each other over the internet, after
> wasting time fussing with tech.
> * "Team Up" - too hard to get them into groups irl?  Too hard to let them
> talk so they can work together?  Too hard to use a normal presentation app
> to make slides?  Use this thing!
>
> Overall, I think this represents an interesting trend in edu tech - making
> normal classroom things digital.  This is a trend that I view as useless
> from my experiences.  These are not useful tools for teachers to teach
> with, it doesn't let the kids make things or research things.  The
> currently successful devices in edu tech seem to be chromebooks - which
> don't add a single thing that is educational.  Instead they have
> collaboration for word processing, slides, etc.  Real tools for making real
> stuff.
>
> Spiral does make me thing about what our approach should be though (hint:
> not like spiral) - making tools for kids to work together and make stuff.
> Tools that teachers can use in their lesson plans.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:08 PM, samson goddy 
> wrote:
>
>> Someone tweeted @sugar_labs via twitter, asking if the sugarlabs might be
>> interested in this application. But it seems like she does not know that
>> Sugar Labs has an OS. But the interesting thing is the approach about the
>> application. It will be really good to have something like this as an
>> activity in Sugar OS so it might make work for teachers in school easier.
>> Here is the link to the site http://spiral.ac/r/miB
>>
>> Samson
>>
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