Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] minutes from 3 June 2016 oversight board meeting

2016-07-01 Thread Dave Crossland 
On Jun 3, 2016 6:19 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:
>
> I am certain to yet again be accused of making an ad hominem attack, but
I have to say that I was extremely disappointed in the lack of preparedness
for this meeting. Several community members had been working on motions,
requesting comments and feedback over the course of several months. And yet
it was only during the meeting itself that feedback from committee members
was forthcoming.

I want to commend the board on a very different meeting today: working
together to get motions ready to pass, or passing them despite minor
wording or other minor concerns at today's meeting.

Well done :)
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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Implode-17

2016-07-01 Thread Sugar Labs Activities 
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4086

Sugar Platform:
0.98 - 0.104

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/29249/implode-17.xo

Release notes:
1.  fix missing icon in tool bar help button (the help button was there, but 
the icon was not drawn; it was very hard to discover; the user had to move the 
mouse pointer over it),

2.  fix help window to work with 16:9 display aspect ratios (it was originally 
designed for 4:3 and did not resize correctly on 16:9, to the point that the 
help window was not usable),

3.  inhibit idle suspend during help window animation (fixes 
https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10792 )

4.  also compatible with Sugar 0.106, 0.107, 0.108, and 0.109 (mentioned 
because these still cannot be selected in activities.sugarlabs.org)

5.  this release was by qu...@laptop.org and was tested on Ubuntu 16.04 and 
Fedora 18.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Donation

2016-07-01 Thread Ütkarsh Tiwari 
I have a payoneer account.

On 7/1/16, Dave Crossland  wrote:
> On 1 July 2016 at 01:58, Dave Crossland  wrote:
>> Ütkarsh, will your stipend be paid directly to you
>
> Ah, the funds are paid directly to your local bank account in India;
> its really hard to make a bank wire transfer out of India. Do you have
> a paypal account?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard 
Quoting Tony Anderson (2016-07-01 14:54:12)
> I believe this version comes from OLPC (James Cameron). This version 
> includes valuable changes to the structure of Sugar. However, 
> sugar-bundle-install apparently was not updated to reflect this. 
> Similarly, the permissions on this version must be set up to share 
> activities between users, which is not relevant to the XO 
> implementation where there is one user - olpc.

My comment was about how to most optimally address bugs in code not 
developed as part of Sugarlabs, but instead hacked on by a downstream 
(re)distributor.

If you insist on handling external code as if part of Sugarlabs (i.e. by 
reporting bugs in it on a mailinglist tied to Sugarlabs rather than the 
(re)distributor), then go ahead - you don't need my permission.

...but please do not try convince me that it is most sensible.

When you one day stumble upon a bug in the Debian-derived Sugar packages 
I would very much appreciate being informed about it *in* *Debian* - 
please do *not* expect downstream developers to follow this list.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Tony Anderson 

Hi Walter,

I deleted HelloWorld from /usr/share/sugar/activities and restarted. The 
HelloWorld activity was in the Home and List views. Go figure! Possibly 
when I ran sugar-install-bundle, I needed to restart to get the activity 
registered.


Tony

On 07/01/2016 02:55 PM, Walter Bender wrote:



On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Tony Anderson > wrote:


Hi, Walter

My bad. I meant /home/olpc/Activities. The Ubuntu version uses
/usr/share/sugar/activities so that all accounts can access the
same activity set.


I have not tried the latest Ubuntu Sugar packaging, but it has long 
been the case that we support looking for activities in both 
/usr/share/sugar/activities and $HOME/Activities. User-installed 
activities end up in $HOME/Activities. The bug as you are reporting it 
seems to be that the list view is not finding the latter activities. 
The log file may be revealing. Can you please post it?


-walter



Tony


On 07/01/2016 01:07 PM, Walter Bender wrote:



On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Tony Anderson
mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net>> wrote:

I installed Sugar 0.107 on Ubuntu 14.04 as described in
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu.

Activities in this version are at /usr/share/sugar/activities
not /usr/olpc/Activities. However, sugar-install-bundle
installs activities at /usr/username/Activities not in
/usr/share/sugar/activities. As a result, the activity is not
available in the List view.


I would have expected Sugar to look in
/usr/share/sugar/activities and $HOME/Activities as it does on
Fedora systems. I was unaware of it ever looking in
usr/olpc/Actvities (maybe on a really old version of Sugar???)

The activities in /usr/share/activities need 755 permission
not 700 as given by sugar-install-bundle.

Incidentally, Ubuntu has changed the login screen. The choice
of desktops is not made with a small icon at the top right of
the login screen, not by an icon on the login itself.

Tony
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Walter Bender 
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> Hi, Walter
>
> My bad. I meant /home/olpc/Activities. The Ubuntu version uses
> /usr/share/sugar/activities so that all accounts can access the same
> activity set.
>

I have not tried the latest Ubuntu Sugar packaging, but it has long been
the case that we support looking for activities in both
/usr/share/sugar/activities and $HOME/Activities. User-installed activities
end up in $HOME/Activities. The bug as you are reporting it seems to be
that the list view is not finding the latter activities. The log file may
be revealing. Can you please post it?

-walter

>
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 07/01/2016 01:07 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Tony Anderson 
> wrote:
>
>> I installed Sugar 0.107 on Ubuntu 14.04 as described in
>> 
>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu.
>>
>> Activities in this version are at /usr/share/sugar/activities not
>> /usr/olpc/Activities. However, sugar-install-bundle
>> installs activities at /usr/username/Activities not in
>> /usr/share/sugar/activities. As a result, the activity is not available in
>> the List view.
>>
>
> I would have expected Sugar to look in /usr/share/sugar/activities and
> $HOME/Activities as it does on Fedora systems. I was unaware of it ever
> looking in usr/olpc/Actvities (maybe on a really old version of Sugar???)
>
>
>> The activities in /usr/share/activities need 755 permission not 700 as
>> given by sugar-install-bundle.
>>
>> Incidentally, Ubuntu has changed the login screen. The choice of desktops
>> is not made with a small icon at the top right of the login screen, not by
>> an icon on the login itself.
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Tony Anderson 

Hi Jonas,

I believe this version comes from OLPC (James Cameron). This version 
includes valuable changes to the structure of Sugar. However,
sugar-bundle-install apparently was not updated to reflect this. 
Similarly, the permissions on this version must be set up to share 
activities between users, which is not relevant to the XO implementation 
where there is one user - olpc.


Tony

On 07/01/2016 02:40 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

Quoting Tony Anderson (2016-07-01 13:01:43)

I installed Sugar 0.107 on Ubuntu 14.04 as described in
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu.

Activities in this version are at /usr/share/sugar/activities not
/usr/olpc/Activities. However, sugar-install-bundle
installs activities at /usr/username/Activities not in
/usr/share/sugar/activities. As a result, the activity is not available
in the List view.
The activities in /usr/share/activities need 755 permission not 700 as
given by sugar-install-bundle.

Incidentally, Ubuntu has changed the login screen. The choice of
desktops is not made with a small icon at the top right of the login
screen, not by an icon on the login itself.

I recommend you to report that issue to the distributor, since seemingly
they altered the code as part of their (re)distribution of Sugar.


  - Jonas



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Tony Anderson 

Hi, Walter

My bad. I meant /home/olpc/Activities. The Ubuntu version uses 
/usr/share/sugar/activities so that all accounts can access the same 
activity set.


Tony

On 07/01/2016 01:07 PM, Walter Bender wrote:



On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Tony Anderson > wrote:


I installed Sugar 0.107 on Ubuntu 14.04 as described in
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu.

Activities in this version are at /usr/share/sugar/activities not
/usr/olpc/Activities. However, sugar-install-bundle
installs activities at /usr/username/Activities not in
/usr/share/sugar/activities. As a result, the activity is not
available in the List view.


I would have expected Sugar to look in /usr/share/sugar/activities and 
$HOME/Activities as it does on Fedora systems. I was unaware of it 
ever looking in usr/olpc/Actvities (maybe on a really old version of 
Sugar???)


The activities in /usr/share/activities need 755 permission not
700 as given by sugar-install-bundle.

Incidentally, Ubuntu has changed the login screen. The choice of
desktops is not made with a small icon at the top right of the
login screen, not by an icon on the login itself.

Tony
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard 
Quoting Tony Anderson (2016-07-01 13:01:43)
> I installed Sugar 0.107 on Ubuntu 14.04 as described in 
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu.
> 
> Activities in this version are at /usr/share/sugar/activities not 
> /usr/olpc/Activities. However, sugar-install-bundle
> installs activities at /usr/username/Activities not in 
> /usr/share/sugar/activities. As a result, the activity is not available 
> in the List view.
> The activities in /usr/share/activities need 755 permission not 700 as 
> given by sugar-install-bundle.
> 
> Incidentally, Ubuntu has changed the login screen. The choice of 
> desktops is not made with a small icon at the top right of the login 
> screen, not by an icon on the login itself.

I recommend you to report that issue to the distributor, since seemingly 
they altered the code as part of their (re)distribution of Sugar.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Walter Bender 
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> I installed Sugar 0.107 on Ubuntu 14.04 as described in
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu.
>
> Activities in this version are at /usr/share/sugar/activities not
> /usr/olpc/Activities. However, sugar-install-bundle
> installs activities at /usr/username/Activities not in
> /usr/share/sugar/activities. As a result, the activity is not available in
> the List view.
>

I would have expected Sugar to look in /usr/share/sugar/activities and
$HOME/Activities as it does on Fedora systems. I was unaware of it ever
looking in usr/olpc/Actvities (maybe on a really old version of Sugar???)


> The activities in /usr/share/activities need 755 permission not 700 as
> given by sugar-install-bundle.
>
> Incidentally, Ubuntu has changed the login screen. The choice of desktops
> is not made with a small icon at the top right of the login screen, not by
> an icon on the login itself.
>
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[Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu

2016-07-01 Thread Tony Anderson 
I installed Sugar 0.107 on Ubuntu 14.04 as described in 
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu.


Activities in this version are at /usr/share/sugar/activities not 
/usr/olpc/Activities. However, sugar-install-bundle
installs activities at /usr/username/Activities not in 
/usr/share/sugar/activities. As a result, the activity is not available 
in the List view.
The activities in /usr/share/activities need 755 permission not 700 as 
given by sugar-install-bundle.


Incidentally, Ubuntu has changed the login screen. The choice of 
desktops is not made with a small icon at the top right of the login 
screen, not by an icon on the login itself.


Tony
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Donation

2016-07-01 Thread Dave Crossland 
On 1 July 2016 at 01:58, Dave Crossland  wrote:
> Ütkarsh, will your stipend be paid directly to you

Ah, the funds are paid directly to your local bank account in India;
its really hard to make a bank wire transfer out of India. Do you have
a paypal account?
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