Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] URGENT action needed

[Tabitha Roder]

I think Sugar Labs should approve the $US 627.05 travel advance for Samson
Goddy.
Tabitha


On Aug 11, 2017 8:44 AM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> I presume we need a motion and a vote on this. Time is of the essence, so
> please respond ASAP.
>
> Motion: Samson Goddy has been selected as a Sugar Labs representative to
> the Google Summer of Code mentor summit. He has requested a travel advance
> to cover the costs of his visa application. The advance, including wire
> fees comes to $US 627.05. This motion is to approve the travel advance. (As
> additional background, Google will be covering up to $2200 in travel
> expenses for two representatives to attend the summit. Since our other
> representative is local to the SF area, the bulk of that money would be
> available to cover Samson's travel, so the net impact on SL funds will be
> negligible.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Accounting at Software Freedom Conservancy <
> account...@sfconservancy.org>
> Date: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:16 PM
> Subject: URGENT request for Sugar Labs to approve of US$627.05 advance for
> Goddy for GSoC Mentor Summit (was: Is Goddy actually requesting $160 ?)
> To: su...@sfconservancy.org
> Cc: Martin Michlmayr , Samson Goddy <
> samsongo...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Sugar Labs PLC,  please urgently page down to the all caps section below.
>
> Samson,
>
> Samson Goddy wrote at 08:52 (EDT) on Wednesday:
> > it has been 5 days, i already made request to su...@sfconservancy.org
> for
> > funding. Since it takes up to 15 working days(3 weeks) for the embassy to
> > accept appointment for interview.
> >
> > I haven't heard anything from both parties.
>
> Unfortunately, We are waiting for someone from Sugar Labs to reply to
> approve the expense.  I don't know why they haven't replied.
>
> SUGAR LABS PLC: By my calculation, Samson is asking for this:
>
>   FOR TRAVEL TO GET A VISA, AND FOR THE VISA FEES ITSELF, SAMSON GODDY ASKS
>   FOR A CASH ADVANCE OF TRAVEL EXPENSES (TO COME TO GSOC MENTOR SUMMIT
>   2017).  The totals are as follows:
>
>   If we use western union, N202,350 = $570 (rate set by WU)
>
>   If we use wire, he's asking for 561+(561*.05)+13+25 = US$627.05 to be
> wired.
>wire fees
>
> If Sugar Labs PLC replies with approval before Sunday night US/Eastern, we
> can likely process a payment by wire on Monday.
>
>
> We don't typically use Western Union, and it would be substantial effort
> for
> us to do that, so we'd like Sugar to approve the additional wire fees as
> it will make payment more rapid for Samson and easier for Conservancy.
>
> Samson, your request was a bit ramble-y, so if I gleaned the wrong totals
> above, please correct them.
>
> Samson, in preparation for Sugar Labs PLC hopefully approving this request,
> could you let me know if the wire instructions I used for you before are
> still correct, and if not, send me new ones?
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] URGENT action needed

[Sameer Verma]

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Laura Vargas  wrote:
>
>
> 2017-08-11 9:23 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Laura Vargas 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2017-08-11 8:54 GMT-05:00 Avni Khatri :



 On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Samuel Cantero 
 wrote:
>
> mind-boggling indeed. SL has been in GSoC and GCI for years. I'm not a
> board member but +1 for sure.
>

 +1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Avni,
>>>
>>> I agree with you it should be clearly defined who in Sugar Labs is
>>> responsible for Google's collections.
>>>
>>> Resources in Sugar Labs are limited and historically we had lost a lot of
>>> opportunities because uncollected grant, please research on Trip Advisor's
>>> case when lack of clear responsibility for collection let to an unbelievable
>>> lack of collection of US$40.000 for internationalization's projects.
>>>
>>> Responsibility isn't clear at this point.
>>>
>>> About the Financial Manager role, it was created by the Board on July's
>>> decisions last year, still they never appointed anyone for the role.
>>>
>>> In the meanwhile, Adam has continue serving as the representative for
>>> Sugar Labs with the Software Freedom Conservancy since last period. Still,
>>> this role doesn't account for any financial responsibility according to
>>> current Governance.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry we still don't have a wiki page that would easily resolve any
>>> financial question to the community. It is a tendency I'm hoping to revert
>>> by proposing the Motion 2017-08-10: Sugar Labs Financial Manager to have a
>>> monthly compensation.
>>>
>>>
>> First i see no reason for this decision, after the comments from walter's
>> and i quote.
>>
>> "Google has been consistently paying us for almost 10 years. The fact that
>> we have not yet seen the $7000 from GCI is an SFC interface issue."
>>
>> Sugar Labs not receiving $7k from GCI was a problem from SFC. This
>> discussion is unhealthy for this motion because it serves as a distraction.
>
>
>
> Samson,
>
> On the contrary I would have no problem to vote +1 on this motion if we had
> already a clearly defined and fairly compensated Financial Manager
> responsible for the numbers (this includes tracking collections and
> payments) on our quarterly reports.

The two motions are separate. Let's keep those that way.

Sameer

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] URGENT action needed

[Samson Goddy]

Please i encourage people that haven't voted yet should please do. As SFC
promise to wire transfer on Monday if  this motion pass on or before Sunday.

Samson

On Aug 12, 2017 1:00 AM, "James Cameron"  wrote:

> I'm not a board member, or a member, but my opinion is that Sugar Labs
> should approve the $US 627.05 travel advance for Samson Goddy.
>
> Having said that, I'm going off topic in reply to Laura below;
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 09:08:06AM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote:
> > I agree with you it should be clearly defined who in Sugar Labs is
> > responsible for Google's collections.
>
> Disagree.  The oversight board is responsible.  Jointly and severally;
> which means each board member is responsible, and the board as a whole
> is responsible.  As an organisation with no staff, the board is all
> there is.
>
> > Resources in Sugar Labs are limited and historically we had lost a
> > lot of opportunities because uncollected grant, please research on
> > Trip Advisor's case when lack of clear responsibility for collection
> > let to an unbelievable lack of collection of US$40.000 for
> > internationalization's projects.
> >
> > Responsibility isn't clear at this point.
>
> Disagree.  The oversight board is responsible.
>
> > About the Financial Manager role, it was created by the Board on
> > July's decisions last year, still they never appointed anyone for
> > the role.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Regardless of whether a Finance Manager is appointed, the board
> remains responsible.  The board can't shift that responsibility by
> appointing a Finance Manager.
>
> However, a Finance Manager can greatly help the board, so my
> recommendation is that the board appoint one as they had intended.
>
> > In the meanwhile, Adam has continue serving as the representative
> > for Sugar Labs with the Software Freedom Conservancy since last
> > period. Still, this role doesn't account for any financial
> > responsibility according to current [3] Governance.
> >
> > I'm sorry we still don't have a wiki page that would easily resolve
> > any financial question to the community. It is a tendency I'm hoping
> > to revert by proposing the Motion 2017-08-10: Sugar Labs Financial
> > Manager to have a monthly compensation.
>
> I'll reply to this on the other thread.
>
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